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Anyone know anything about Solar...?

Yid

Yid

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So.... I'm going full kit wanker on this, socks pulled right up over my knees type jobby...!!! We've already brought an electric motor and will buy a second when my old beast shows any signs of attempting to cost us any serious money.

Does anyone here have any experience or expertise with either the installation or the equipment as I think I have exhausted my ability to Google knowledge.

I've got quotes from 3 or 4 different companies and aside from one that is offering "Value" they are very much of a muchness and very fucking expensive for small systems that don't fulfil my power needs.

The one offering value have a salesman who is utter shite. I have googled more info than he has and I managed to tie him up in knots to the point of him saying "well I simply don't know about that I will have to ask the owner of the company"... it obviously didn't inspire me to sign there and then like he wanted me to.

However they are offering the largest system, for what I consider a competitive price and the plank salesman won't be doing the actual work.

We're doing 2 grands worth of work to make it simple before we even start the solar project. We're moving a secondary distribution board into the garage and upgrading it to have all the solar batteries and car chargers running solely off this dedicated consumer unit. I don't see how they can fuck it up from here as the new dist board will have its own dedicated circuits/breakers for each part of the solar install. We're running a new 80amp cable across the house from the main dist board to feed it and getting the DNO to upgrade the main fuse to 100amp. We're already having roof work done so have the scaffold is in situ for as long as the solar guys need it. I mean... we couldn't have done anything more to make this a simple job.

Just wondering if anyone has had any done, can offer some insight and possible opinions as to what I need to consider.

This is the type of this I have quotes for:
  • 33 x 395w Hyundai all black photovoltaic panels (13.1kw capacity).
  • Tigo solar optimisers
  • Growatt Hybrid inverter (SPH6000TL BL-UP)
  • 3 x Growatt GBLI6532 battery
  • eddi solar power diverter
  • zappi smart EV charger
  • Bird guard
  • MCS certification
  • Full commissioning
 
Sneeky

Sneeky

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sorry Greta,the only things I know about solar is
a, don’t touch it it’s rather warm and you might get a blister
b, don’t fly to close to it as cousin Icarus ended up with splinters in his blisters
c,it don’t shine out of Levy’s arse or cunt depending on your orientation,

ps, lend me a score you rich full kit wanker
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
I know everything I need to know about Solar. I tell the bloke at Iberdrola (Spanish leccy company) to come round my house and bung it in. We were thinking about it, we get a bit of sun here, but our tariff is so fecking good at the moment it would not be worth it. Our electric bills have gone down over the last 3.5 years! How the fuck that has happened I don't know, all I know is that Ibby keep sending me emails saying that the plan I am no will not be affected by energy price increases, the Spanish feds have reduced the taxes on Leccy by loads so our bill keeps getting lower. We were thinking of getting an electric car, but again, not worth it. We bought a new car when we moved here in 2019 and have done less than 10,000 kilometres, so we'll keep it for another 4 or 5 years then get a electrickery powered one and probably some solar panels.
 
Havocc

Havocc

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Had mine installed 10 years ago. I have 12 panels on 3 sides of my roof to follow the sun. No idea on what the equipment is, or details on the system. it’s paid back the money I spent and also saves us 30-40% on our bill depending on the season/weather
 
Yid

Yid

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I've just dropped a shit boat load on a huge system...!!!

Go big or go home bitches...!!!
 
Yid

Yid

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  • 32x Q Cells ML G9 385W 25 YEAR OUTPUT WARRANTY solar panel
  • 32 x Tigo Panel Optimisers and
  • 2x G2 GivEnergy 3.6kW Hybrid inverter
  • 1 X Zappi 7kw EV Charger
  • Reinforced BirdBlocker 30M KIT
  • 2x GivEnergy 8.2kWh Eco LiFePO4 Battery (5.2 kWh)
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Sneeky

Sneeky

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fuk me, 9016kwh..
my latest leccy bill per month was,

318kwh x 19.78p = £62.83

you could power my gaff x28 with that lot.
 
Yid

Yid

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Founding Member
Thats a year...

2 x electric motors (soon, 1 already)...
Switching over to a solar diverter to limit gas use... (just brought a fucking new boiler 6 months ago at 10 grand).

Based on previous 6 months usage we used approx 5000kw a year. Add 2 x Lecy motors and you're hitting 10000kw for the year...ish.

Kids will have motors in the next 3/5 years so our usage will inevitably go up even more.

An additional saving of circa £200 a month on Petrol/Diesel between the two cars will also help towards the pay back period. The 600 mile range of my A6 will cost about £16 to fill up as opposed to the £135 I currently pay.
 
Sneeky

Sneeky

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You better have steel wired armed cable cause I’m moving next door
hope it don’t Fuk with the wifi
 
Yid

Yid

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Yeah I've been researching that as i need to run a cat6(a) cable along the same route as the 80amp feed...both will be steel wire armoured but not sure if that's the same as Shielded...?
 
Sneeky

Sneeky

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If your not planning to send power down the cat 6 and your future proofing then consider fibre with media converters either end. No signal loss or danger of emf interference.
multi mode for up to 650m single mode longer. Stick it in copex or armoured to protect it.
 
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Yid

Yid

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If your not planning to send power down the cat 6 and your future proofing then consider fibre with media converters either end. No signal loss or danger of emf interference.
multi mode for up to 650m single mode longer. Stick it in copex or armoured to protect it.
So my plan is to run an ethernet cable from the front room where the router is connected, up into the loft space and from there split it out using a network switch and supply mesh AP's upstairs where the signal is next to useless.

My plan was to basically install a wall plate at either end and then plug a patch cable in at either end. Could I do this (external) run in fiber optic? I've already brought the Cat6a but I can use that for running the cables from the switch to the AP's and it wasn't horrendously expensive. I will also need to do the same sort of set up when I install the garden shed that'll also have an AP installed.... much later date though.
 
Sneeky

Sneeky

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Fibre "backbone" is preferred, do you have a network geezer to do the config on the switch ?
What switch you got ?
Happy to draw something up later
 
Yid

Yid

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Founding Member
Errrrrr.... nah, I'm the geezer...!!!

Mate, you've made me think I'm going full Michael Mouse on this...!!!

I'll give you the full run down.

Currently on Vodafone superfast2 but awaiting an upgrade to their 900mb guaranteed service.

Using a TP-LINK Archer AX1100 from the BT master socket.

Was going to run a Cat6a cable up the side of the gaff and install wall plates at either end.

From there I was going to split that using a TP-Link Managed PoE Network Switch

I was then going to run more Cat6a down to TP-LINK Deco M9 Plus units around the gaff

It was then gonna work an absolute charm and all the whiney fucks I live with will shut the fuck up and stop bothering the shit out of me about not being able to game, watch TV, watch YouTube blah blah blah...

So do I need a geezer...?
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
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S'funny cos people think that because I was a techy, I understand all this stuff. I always told the people I was coding for that I don't do hardware, I don't give a fuck about the backend, if the (bastard) operators (from hell) can't get me a connection I go home. I have read through this thread and it's like reading a foreign language. I remember 28 kbs dialup and the internet, that you could only use if nobody was using the phone, before there were any websites or email, just a load of coders trying to hack into feds databases and sending each other ever so witty messages.

I don't know how we manage here with only 300mb of Internet, it's like the stone age. My router is the one the ISP gave me and the signal upstairs is iffy, but I don't care cos I don't go upstairs to the 'guest floor'. Like I said earlier I am living in a strange alternative universe where my leccy biils are going down. I just got the bill for the last 32 days of mega-extreme heat, not like that 'killer' heatwave in Ingerlund, proper fucking hot for months. We have had at least 3 aircon units, sometimes 5, running 24/7, the pool pump is running 8 hours a day - , two fridges (beer fridge is vital of course),fuck knows how many tellys, phones, computers, battery chargers, electric cooking, 3 big air filter fans running all the time, and our new electric motor sun shade! - the bill was €130 , €4.12 a day (about £3.50) that in my mind is fuck all really, 3 beers in a bar here or a half in England. According to the Leccy company I could save 60% on the electric usage part of my bill, which on a yearly average is around €2.50 per day, so it would take me 22 years to get my money back on the minimum €12 grand solar installation cost - yeah like I'm going to live 22 more years!

I don't know why we aren't getting clobbered on energy costs like you chaps in the UK, I know the feds have done a lot on reducing taxes and making the suppliers pay, they also did a great job on the Covid furlough system, it was more money and for longer than Richi Rich's pile of poo and despite what that fat lying blob says we did have a vaccine rollout and far less people per million died. I think I might stay here, es muy bonito aquí, y es pony as fuck en Inglaterra.
 
Sneeky

Sneeky

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That will do it Yid, sorry to mouse you. Im used to writing my own router/switch/ap configs at home. I would suggest getting the kit connected in front of you working before installing it. Sounds like it sort of plug and play type so as long as you document the ip addresses etc your all good.
Still keep the cat 6 as far away from the mains as poss and certainly dont wind it around it !

In work its full on secure stuff even as far as bus leakage from usb keyboards that can be sniffed, EMP cages and hungry attack dogs.
 
Yid

Yid

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Founding Member
Nice one...

The cable they're installing is at least 30mm thick... is bigger than the incoming supply...!!!

I'll also need to see if Amazon do an bollocks as I'm bricking it thinking about climbing that ladder...!!!
 
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