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Remember the early months of Pochettino at spurs,some more mentally challenged welsh fans in particular saying Poch couldnt handle big name/experienced players after the cull of AVBs and previous managers players,the night fit in or fuck off,became fuck off for a few.Anyway Ryan Mason has been talking publically about it.Here is what is being quoted.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...tinos-first-season-at-tottenham-a3846041.html
Mason: "It is no secret there were a few bad eggs at Tottenham. A lot of managers were scared to stand up to them and it was a case of the players being in control of the managers, really. I was so desperate to play for Spurs. It helped because I had Harry and some other boys..................."
"In the first few weeks of pre-season, there were a few lads not giving as much as they should. We called them out, we had arguments. I squared up to a few senior players. I think that is why the fans now see connection with club and the players. And the gaffer coming in was part of that. You have got players now that actually care about the club and want to play."
This is old ITK from SC site
My recollection was the scrappy start to the season back in 2014,was not on its knees,but some peoples confidence was buckling towards lets face it an unknown quantity of a manager to spurs fans.In his book Poch more or less said the heat was on and there wasnt much to be lost by drawing a line and it was then his way or no way for the players.
Sunday nov 2 2014 late afternoon probably about 10mins to six,everything changed
Lloris, Naughton, Kaboul (c),Vertonghen, Rose; Capoue, Chadli, Eriksen, Mason; Adebayor, Soldado
subs: Vorm, Fazio, Dembele, Stambouli, Lamela, Townsend, Kane
Poch hooked eriksen,and ade for lamela and Kane then andros came on for i cant remember who.Chadli equalised in the last 10mins,we got a freekick edge of the box,Kane pushed Lamela away from it,I wished it hadnt needed a deflection but what the hell Kane scored and flukey as it was,the ball was rolling and an era was born.
Only Hugo,jan,eriksen&rose survived the cull after this,Lennon was already out the picture,kaboul&adebayor immediatly joined him.
Two league matches later vs Hull this is the line up
Lloris, Dier, Fazio, Vertonghen, Davies; Dembele, Mason, Eriksen, Lamela; Kane, Soldado Subs: Vorm, Ball, Chiriches, Ceballos, Lennon, Paulinho, Stambouli
Looking more familiar to what we have now to an extent,ade,kaboul gone,naughton gone,lennon on bench but was finished,paulinio.capoue,stambouli never to be used meaningfully again,it was a proper night of the long knives cull.
Bringing it up to date and making it some what relevant(if speculative!!),Toby eh,he is not out of the side because Poch is having a hissy fit over non contract signing,its not his style to be vindictive over the good of the team.Is there a need to take care over his hamstring,similar to how at times dembele has sat out periods even when he has considered himself fit.Is it what he is showing in training?his level of fitness?(they measure everything fat content,bodymass,hydration levels) or for all his kiss arse social media to publically show his support for the team Toby has crossed poch`s line in some way?Now i am not suggesting Toby is a bad apple,just history has shown when Poch does this (if not always apparent at the time),there is a reason or was a reason.
Ryan Mason said one day he will name names about who the bad apples were and what went on.Like gary lineker i am all ears about that.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...tinos-first-season-at-tottenham-a3846041.html
Mason: "It is no secret there were a few bad eggs at Tottenham. A lot of managers were scared to stand up to them and it was a case of the players being in control of the managers, really. I was so desperate to play for Spurs. It helped because I had Harry and some other boys..................."
"In the first few weeks of pre-season, there were a few lads not giving as much as they should. We called them out, we had arguments. I squared up to a few senior players. I think that is why the fans now see connection with club and the players. And the gaffer coming in was part of that. You have got players now that actually care about the club and want to play."
This is old ITK from SC site
My recollection was the scrappy start to the season back in 2014,was not on its knees,but some peoples confidence was buckling towards lets face it an unknown quantity of a manager to spurs fans.In his book Poch more or less said the heat was on and there wasnt much to be lost by drawing a line and it was then his way or no way for the players.
Sunday nov 2 2014 late afternoon probably about 10mins to six,everything changed
Lloris, Naughton, Kaboul (c),Vertonghen, Rose; Capoue, Chadli, Eriksen, Mason; Adebayor, Soldado
subs: Vorm, Fazio, Dembele, Stambouli, Lamela, Townsend, Kane
Poch hooked eriksen,and ade for lamela and Kane then andros came on for i cant remember who.Chadli equalised in the last 10mins,we got a freekick edge of the box,Kane pushed Lamela away from it,I wished it hadnt needed a deflection but what the hell Kane scored and flukey as it was,the ball was rolling and an era was born.
Only Hugo,jan,eriksen&rose survived the cull after this,Lennon was already out the picture,kaboul&adebayor immediatly joined him.
Two league matches later vs Hull this is the line up
Lloris, Dier, Fazio, Vertonghen, Davies; Dembele, Mason, Eriksen, Lamela; Kane, Soldado Subs: Vorm, Ball, Chiriches, Ceballos, Lennon, Paulinho, Stambouli
Looking more familiar to what we have now to an extent,ade,kaboul gone,naughton gone,lennon on bench but was finished,paulinio.capoue,stambouli never to be used meaningfully again,it was a proper night of the long knives cull.
Bringing it up to date and making it some what relevant(if speculative!!),Toby eh,he is not out of the side because Poch is having a hissy fit over non contract signing,its not his style to be vindictive over the good of the team.Is there a need to take care over his hamstring,similar to how at times dembele has sat out periods even when he has considered himself fit.Is it what he is showing in training?his level of fitness?(they measure everything fat content,bodymass,hydration levels) or for all his kiss arse social media to publically show his support for the team Toby has crossed poch`s line in some way?Now i am not suggesting Toby is a bad apple,just history has shown when Poch does this (if not always apparent at the time),there is a reason or was a reason.
Ryan Mason said one day he will name names about who the bad apples were and what went on.Like gary lineker i am all ears about that.
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