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ENIC Out

Havocc

Havocc

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hey, if rich people want to pay the cost and the money goes into the club then I am all for it. I dont see this being an issue or a slight against any other groups of fans. I can also see more clubs adopting this approach

i am sure our club will be at the forefront of letting fans in considering our stadium is one of those most adaptable to the situation.

personally I will not attend a live match or any others large event until a vaccine is available anyway. Much safer sitting on my couch
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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hey, if rich people want to pay the cost and the money goes into the club then I am all for it. I dont see this being an issue or a slight against any other groups of fans. I can also see more clubs adopting this approach

i am sure our club will be at the forefront of letting fans in considering our stadium is one of those most adaptable to the situation.

personally I will not attend a live match or any others large event until a vaccine is available anyway. Much safer sitting on my couch
The issue will be more travel to and from the stadium,and probably is for most clubs,rather than keeping them a few feet apart inside.
Its a real can of worms who can go and who cant,after all they have all paid,take the ones who pay the club the most money?loyalty points,ballot or even location,those in haringey who can attend by walking get first dibs.However they do it the excluded ones will howl in protest,even if they arent going to attend.

Glad to hear you`re being sensible,personally I will be glad here when flights stop end of the month and i dont have to risk mingling in any way. .
 
Dorset

Dorset

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Glad to hear you`re being sensible,personally I will be glad here when flights stop end of the month and i dont have to risk mingling in any way. .
Bastard tourists eh? All the Madridisata and Barcelonaisats or whatever they call them are going home from here now. We don't really get a lot of international tourists in this bit of the Costa Blanca, it's mostly Spanish folks. We had hardly any cases of Covid 19 in the fist 4 months of the crisis, but now we do., not many, but I still ain't going to no restaurants or bars until all the lurgy that was brought to the Marina Alta by these big city people is gone.
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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Eho-XIsWAAE2XX4
 
USspur

USspur

Player in Training.
If you want to be one of the big boys you need to act like one of the big boys.

Asking for a world class center half and ending up with a young up and coming kid is not what i like to call ambitious.

Until this changes nothing will change, no matter who the manager is.
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

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If you want to be one of the big boys you need to act like one of the big boys.

Asking for a world class center half and ending up with a young up and coming kid is not what i like to call ambitious.

Until this changes nothing will change, no matter who the manager is.
Correct.
 
J.spurs

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With the above said, I still want Jose out.
I will say that I remember many saying at about this stage (maybe a bit later) in Jose's tenure at Man United that they'd never sack him bc of his contract. Who knows.
 
Dave

Dave

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If you want to be one of the big boys you need to act like one of the big boys.

Asking for a world class center half and ending up with a young up and coming kid is not what i like to call ambitious.

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ntil this changes nothing will change, no matter who the manager is.
The reason we didnt get a top centre half was because the wages were instead allocated to the signing of a lazy Welsh amateur Golfer who he doesn't bother playing.
Levy's one of those cunt's that if he feels the pressure's on with fans, he'll pull off a publicity stunt like that. Thinking it will be buy him time. It wont.
If we win the League cup AND Europa league AND finish in the top 4, I still want Jose and Levy OUT! It's boring, cynical negative football. It doesn't excite me, even when we win. Its shit.
This manager sucks the confidence from the players. Look at West Ham & Everton this season. Squads with half the quality on paper, but all of them play for they're manager. So many of our players have gone severely downhill since Jose arrived, Dele, Lucas, Doherty, Winks, Toby, Sissoko that's not a coincidence imo..

Jose OUT
ENIC OUT
 
USspur

USspur

Player in Training.
Someone said it somewhere.

If I was a manager I would not go to Spurs. You don't get your #1 options in the transfer market. End of. I would not do it.
 
J.spurs

J.spurs

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Someone said it somewhere.

If I was a manager I would not go to Spurs. You don't get your #1 options in the transfer market. End of. I would not do it.
Unless you see the club as a stepping stone, which is how I suspect many ambitious managers do. Even that is problematic given the pressures, which goes along with the point you're making--all the pressure of a big job with none of the spending...
 
Yid

Yid

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Someone said it somewhere.

If I was a manager I would not go to Spurs. You don't get your #1 options in the transfer market. End of. I would not do it.
I think it's a very valid point...

History is the best indicator if future events....!!!

We've consistently underfunded the squad and shortchanged the managers while over achieving through a combination of young decent players/coaches.... and luck.

If I was a manager I'd want assurances that I would be supported to achieve the goals set by the club. Lets face it they're the ones who dictate where they want to finish in the league and it's then down to the manager to deliver that with the resources at hand or given to him.

We're half a dozen players light and at 30 Mill average (if you want anyone of any type of quality) were 200 million + nearly a billion on an empty vanity project and a hotel, short...

I genuinely think we're a mid table club again until this current mob sells up and fucks off... and that ain't gonna happen while they're not turning a bean of profit.

And I hate it.....
 
Motspur Hotspur

Motspur Hotspur

Player in Training.
Let's not even get into ticket prices to watch a mid table side!
 
Yid

Yid

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My issue is that ENIC have screwed all the development out of the infrastructure... thus bumping the built price of the asset to around £1Bn.

There's nothing left to squeeze out so any potential developer or investor will only have the rest of the property owned by the club to develop or the football on the pitch.

If we have a few rows of derelict houses that may net a few mill if turned into swanky new apartments, but those ain't the figures an investor is looking for. If they buy this club for the circa £1Bn it's reported to be worth they're gonna want hundreds of millions back per year, every year...

The football on the field is an absolute gamble and it's so competitive that there's too much risk for it to be a realistic viable return....

Look at Citeh... global brand, won a few Prems but it isn't self sustaining and needs constant investment to stay at the top of the tree... which it isn't because it hasn't done it in the Champions League yet...

Any investor would need to match Citeh's investment (or better it) and then they'd be competing for the same talent with the other 5 world wide mega clubs... its way too risky.

ENIC may have screwed us and themselves by building us the best "Venue" the world. They can't afford to leave and no one can afford to buy or invest in us...

And let's remember, all the money invested in the White Hart Elephant vanity project was borrowed... we're fucking crippled with debt and have no way of utilising the built asset to pay it back... thats gonna be a huge factor for any potential investor/buyer...

Then you add into the equation the state of the footballing side of the business. We're half a dozen players light of Champions league football, easily. We're not going to hang onto our superstars so we've then got to buy, find or build more exceptional game changing talent like the rest of the world's elite clubs have. Just call it £40M a pop it's £300M all day long for a hope that it works out. Then add wages...

I don't see a way out of it other that Uncle Joe taking a swim on the club and selling it for a loss to someone like Amazon or Google who can bring the operating model of the club into the future and has the wealth to invest heavily...

Then add in the uncertainty of COVID-19... no fucker is making big waves right now because the future is literally impossible to predict. The world playing Hokey Cokey with lockdowns, public gatherings, supply chains, Brexit, etc, etc, etc and we're in a pathetic state of social and financial limbo that has seen the demise of many many businesses.

So my ramblings pose some questions...

Would ENIC sell the club?

Would ENIC sell the club for a loss?

Who realistically would want to buy our club?

What investment would it need to bring our club up to the level of the Citeh, Real Madrid, Barcelonas of this world?

How low do we need to drop before any of this actually becomes a possibility?

Has anyone read all this and got to the end?
 
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Motspur Hotspur

Motspur Hotspur

Player in Training.
My issue is that ENIC have screwed all the development out of the infrastructure... thus bumping the built price of the asset to around £1Bn.

There's nothing left to squeeze out so any potential developer or investor will only have the rest of the property owned by the club to develop or the football on the pitch.

If we have a few rows of derelict houses that may net a few mill if turned into swanky new apartments, but those ain't the figures an investor is looking for. If they buy this club for the circa £1Bn it's reported to be worth they're gonna want hundreds of millions back per year, every year...

The football on the field is an absolute gamble and it's so competitive that there's too much risk for it to be a realistic viable return....

Look at Citeh... global brand, won a few Prems but it isn't self sustaining and needs constant investment to stay at the top of the tree... which it isn't because it hasn't done it in the Champions League yet...

Any investor would need to match Citeh's investment (or better it) and then they'd be competing for the same talent with the other 5 world wide mega clubs... its way too risky.

ENIC may have screwed us and themselves by building us the best "Venue" the world. They can't afford to leave and no one can afford to buy or invest in us...

And let's remember, all the money invested in the White Hart Elephant vanity project was borrowed... we're fucking crippled with debt and have no way of utilising the built asset to pay it back... thats gonna be a huge factor for any potential investor/buyer...

Then you add into the equation the state of the footballing side of the business. We're half a dozen players light of Champions league football, easily. We're not going to hang onto our superstars so we've then got to buy, find or build more exceptional game changing talent like the rest of the world's elite clubs have. Just call it £40M a pop it's £300M all day long for a hope that it works out. Then add wages...

I don't see a way out of it other that Uncle Joe taking a swim on the club and selling it for a loss to someone like Amazon or Google who can bring the operating model of the club into the future and has the wealth to invest heavily...

Then add in the uncertainty of COVID-19... no fucker is making big waves right now because the future is literally impossible to predict. The world playing Hokey Cokey with lockdowns, public gatherings, supply chains, Brexit, etc, etc, etc and we're in a pathetic state of social and financial limbo that has seen the demise of many many businesses.

So my ramblings pose some questions...

Would ENIC sell the club?

Would ENIC sell the club for a loss?

Who realistically would want to buy our club?

What investment would it need to bring our club up to the level of the Citeh, Real Madrid, Barcelonas of this world?

How low do we need to drop before any of this actually becomes a possibility?

Has anyone read all this and got to the end?
Well, if I was the kind of guy who had a spare billion to invest and a totally ruthless c#£t I'd sit and watch the club go bust then look to get the stadium and phoenix a new Tottenham Hotshots FC who would become tenants.
 
J.spurs

J.spurs

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Doesn't necessarily fit here, but didn't really warrant a new thread. Always great when a fucking paint sponsor makes a laughingstock of you:

 
J.spurs

J.spurs

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Doesn't necessarily fit here, but didn't really warrant a new thread. Always great when a fucking paint sponsor makes a laughingstock of you:

Update: The club actually did a decent job with this one:
 
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