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European Super League

Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
Perez says the project is 'on standby' and that they all signed binding contracts so they can't back out - so there! He will send his mum round their houses, scream until he is sick and stamp his feet if he can't have his Super League.

What a cunt that bloke is, he has insulted every other team and supporter by saying that nobody wants to watch teams that are not in his League because they are 'boring'. He has come out with some total bollocks about how the SL will make football more accessible to younger fans - yeah right, adding yet another streaming service that they will have to pay for will do that!
 
J.spurs

J.spurs

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
Obviously all of us feel the same way about the SL as fans. But putting the morality issue aside, one of the things that's really becoming clear is how incredibly stupid and thrown-together the whole thing was. They've been talking about this shit for YEARS, and they come out with something like this? Like they hadn't even considered that PSG, Bayern, and some others might have reasons not to be committed to it? Or that there might actually be opposition to it from their own fans?

It reminds me of the quote about the Watergate scandal over here in the States from the movie All the Presidents Men: "Forget the myths the media's created about the White House. The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand." Martin Jol actually said something similar to that about football in a story I read not long ago. At the highest level, football is run by a bunch of fuckwits with inherited wealth who seem to have no idea what they're doing.
 
Yid

Yid

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
Everywhere I look people, businesses, football clubs, football fans and anyone else who has an opinion... is giving it all they can to rip the piss out of the cubs who wanted to sign up to this Eropean Selfish league.

Now I support them and to be honest I'd be doing the exact same and there's not a part of me that can defend a single iota of it...

But we, the fans are suffering the brunt of it... with the club, the owners, the chairman not having to navigate the new world they have dropped us in from a fucking great height... Not a statement from the club, not a statement from Levy or Lewis or anyone associated with the club other than they have decided to no longer be part of the misguided venture due to the backlash from other teams.

The fans weren't the reason they ditched it... Euefa, the Prem and the Government threatening to ban teams and players from established competitions was the key to the withdrawal... but we're still getting it full tilt from all angles...!!!

I support THFC...

I do not support Levy
I do not support Lewis
I do not support Enic
I do not support the European Super League

They have to go now... all of the above have to go.

For me to feel how I did in order for me to have fell in love with THFC.... none of the above can remain.
 
spurious

spurious

Player in Training.
It's a start, but there's no way Uncle Joe wasn't consulted beforehand.
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
The president of La Liga, Javier Tebas said:

“This isn’t a problem of revenue, these clubs need to reduce their expenses. We don’t need to keep increasing earnings so that players can have seven Ferraris instead of six. This is a problem of distribution. My position is very clear, we don’t need to increase revenues, we just need to manage expenses. We are not ruined financially and we don’t have to take any exceptional measures.”

Nailed it Javier my old mate.
 
J.spurs

J.spurs

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
Quite the scenes at Old Trafford.
 
USspur

USspur

Player in Training.

[Voz Populi] JP Morgan confirms the Super League is still alive. No clubs have formally left. All announcements were purely in the media.
The conflict over the soccer Super League between Florentino Pérez and UEFA is already in the European Court of Justice, among other things, because it does not seem to be just smoke and mirrors but has money behind it.

The American investment bank JP Morgan subscribed a loan of up to 4,000 million euros on April 17 to finance the project headed by the president of Real Madrid, which was made public hours later.

The company with which the U.S. investment giant underwrote the loan is Tivalino Investment SL, a recently created company based in the city of Barcelona. This company is part of TMF, a subsidiary of the British private equity fund CVC Capital Partners.

CVC recently entered into European soccer by entering the capital of Italy's Serie A with an exit clause in the event of a possible European Super League.

Tebas, against the Superliga.

The president of LaLiga, Javier Tebas, has urged to join forces because he understands that the Superliga is not dead.

When asked by Vozpópuli, CVC avoided in November to make official comments about a potential support to the European Superliga that this same media reported.

Now, JP Morgan does not deny the loan commitment signed with CVC's subsidiary to promote the European Superliga. Sources close to the investment bank, in short, avoid giving the loan for dead despite the disbanding of English clubs and the frontal maneuvers against its UEFA promoters.

No one has really left

Officially, the investment bank has acknowledged having "misjudged the impact of the Super League on the soccer community" but has not commented on a possible cancellation of the loan signed with the company promoting the new tournament.

Sources close to the Superliga assure this media that none of the twelve founding clubs has abandoned the promoter company, despite the official statements issued by each of them.


As advanced by this media, the Superliga company led by Florentino understands that anyone who wants to break with it definitively must compensate it with around 300 million euros.

Superliga is still alive

The legality of UEFA's response maneuvers is, precisely, the leitmotiv of the judicial process that is now being settled in the Court of Justice of the European Union at the request of the promoters of the Superliga with Florentino at the head.

The CJEU is studying whether or not UEFA has the power to prevent the organization of soccer competitions in Europe other than its own.

It is doing so urgently in the face of the Superliga's claim, which has used the "social impact" of its proposal and issues such as, precisely, the loan committed by JPMorgan, to demand a diligent decision.

FIFA, Florentino's shadow ally

The legal appeal implicitly calls for FIFA to be assessed with the same importance as UEFA. Sources close to the Superliga point out that the project in a broad sense has had the support of the world soccer governing body presided over by Gianni Infantino.

As already reported by this media, Florentino Pérez's plan contemplates a space in the calendar for a World Super League of clubs, with annual or biannual periodicity, parallel to the European one.

The World Club League would relaunch Infantino's business, based until now on a stagnant World Cup of Nations, which could also become a biennial tournament.

Such a tournament would relaunch Infantino's business, based until now on a stagnant World Cup of Nations, which could also be held every two years.

Perez, in short, presides over the World Club Association created in 2019 to which Infantino himself gave a charter as a vehicle to give a voice "to clubs from all continents".

Tebas, against Florentino and Infantino

Javier Tebas has focused his criticism on Florentino's "arrogance" and Infantino's "obscurantism". The president of La Liga warned that the Champions League could continue to be held without Madrid and Barça.

In the same vein, he has pledged not to resist UEFA if it ends up sanctioning these clubs, whatever the sanction in question.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
 
USspur

USspur

Player in Training.

The six English clubs that signed up to the breakaway European Super League (ESL) earlier this year have agreed to pay £22 million as part of a settlement with the Premier League, it was announced on Wednesday.

Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham also agreed to accept fines of about £20m each and 30-point deductions if they join a similar unsanctioned competition in the future -- a punishment that would have seen Arsenal and Spurs relegated during the 2019-20 campaign.

A statement from the Premier League read: "The six clubs involved in proposals to form a European Super League have today acknowledged once again that their actions were a mistake, and have reconfirmed their commitment to the Premier League and the future of the English game.

"They have wholeheartedly apologised to their fans, fellow clubs, the Premier League and The FA. As a gesture of goodwill, the clubs have collectively agreed to make a contribution of £22m which will go towards the good of the game, including new investment in support for fans, grassroots football and community programmes.

"Furthermore, the clubs have agreed to support rule changes so that any similar actions in the future would lead to a 30 point deduction. Each of the six clubs, in that event, would also be subject to an additional £25m fine. The Premier League and The FA have worked closely together throughout this process and this agreement brings both investigations into the matter to a conclusion."

The ESL was launched on April 18 with 12 clubs as founding members, but nine of them -- six from England and AC Milan, Inter Milan and Atletico Madrid -- have since backed out and reached a deal with UEFA.

The nine clubs who pulled out have been handed financial punishments by UEFA and have agreed to make a combined €15m goodwill contribution to benefit youth and grassroots football across Europe.

The scheme was intended as a direct threat to UEFA's Champions League, but collapsed just days after the announcement due to widespread opposition from players, managers and supporters.

Real Madrid, Barcelona and Juventus were left as the three remaining clubs wishing to push ahead with the plans, but the company which the 12 founding clubs set up to administer the Super League still exists.

Sources have told ESPN that Premier League clubs are planning to ask ESL president Florentino Perez to dissolve the company.

UEFA has accepted the steps taken by the nine founding clubs to distance themselves from the project, but has begun disciplinary proceedings against Madrid, Barca and Juve.

In May, ESPN reported that the three remaining clubs were facing a punishment that could include being banned from the Champions League for two seasons.

Earlier this month, La Liga president Javier Tebas -- a vocal critic of the Super League -- said that he believed the clubs could be excluded from Europe's top club competition.
 
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