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Fergie As Spurs Manager (?)

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http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ement-to-manage-tottenham-says-irving-scholar

Sir Alex Ferguson reneged on 'concrete' agreement to manage Tottenham, says Irving Scholar
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Sir Alex Ferguson reneged on a "concrete" agreement to become the Tottenham manager, according to Irving Scholar
Sir Alex Ferguson reneged on a "concrete" agreement to become the Tottenham manager two years before he began his illustrious 27-year spell in charge of Manchester United, according to former Spurs chairman Irving Scholar.

Keith Burkinshaw left his managerial position at White Hart Lane in 1984 after a disagreement with the board to outcry from the Spurs faithful, despite leading the club to the UEFA Cup and two FA Cup victories in the previous three campaigns.

Scholar has admitted he believed he knew the name of Burkinshaw's replacement having shaken hands on a deal to bring in Ferguson, only for the Scot to go back on the agreement.



Ferguson enjoyed great success in charge of Aberdeen
Ferguson had led Aberdeen to a league title in 1980 along with three successive Scottish Cup victories from 1982 to 1984 and success in the 1983 European Cup Winners' Cup final against Real Madrid and was Scholar's main target.

"The truth was that I had been talking to and negotiating with Alex Ferguson about a deal," Scholar revealed to The Sun. "He and I had had very long and detailed discussions.

"I told him that I was a very old-fashioned type of chap and that the most important thing was that once you agree something, once you shake someone's hand, it's concrete.

"Once you do that, then you do not - under any circumstances whatsoever - you do not go back on it. It's over. I told him that, when I first met him. So we had this big thing about the handshake."


However, Ferguson's arrival in charge at Tottenham never materialised despite Scholar being convinced the Scotsman had achieved his full potential at Pittodrie.

"We went on and on and on, discussions, negotiations, down to the minutiae of the contract," added Scholar, who took control of Spurs in 1982.

"Everything was agreed. So I said 'Can we meet?', he agreed and I said I'd like him to meet someone else on the board, Paul Bobroff. We arranged to meet in Paris on a Sunday morning, just by the airport.


"The idea was this was the moment, the seminal moment of the handshake. We'd built up to this for weeks. So we met. I said, 'Are you ready?'. He replied, 'I'm ready'.

"I said, 'Are you sure you're ready?'. He said, 'I'm sure'. So we had this seminal moment of the handshake. As you know, unfortunately, he didn't keep to it.

"He never told me why. I had my own theories but it doesn't matter anymore. It was a disappointment. He stayed at Aberdeen for another two years."


The Scottish manager then led Manchester United during a 27-year period
Ferguson won a further league title and a Cup and League Cup double during his final two years in charge of Aberdeen before beginning his tenure in charge of Manchester United in 1986.
 
skiathospurs

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http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ement-to-manage-tottenham-says-irving-scholar

Sir Alex Ferguson reneged on 'concrete' agreement to manage Tottenham, says Irving Scholar
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Sir Alex Ferguson reneged on a "concrete" agreement to become the Tottenham manager, according to Irving Scholar
Sir Alex Ferguson reneged on a "concrete" agreement to become the Tottenham manager two years before he began his illustrious 27-year spell in charge of Manchester United, according to former Spurs chairman Irving Scholar.

Keith Burkinshaw left his managerial position at White Hart Lane in 1984 after a disagreement with the board to outcry from the Spurs faithful, despite leading the club to the UEFA Cup and two FA Cup victories in the previous three campaigns.

Scholar has admitted he believed he knew the name of Burkinshaw's replacement having shaken hands on a deal to bring in Ferguson, only for the Scot to go back on the agreement.



Ferguson enjoyed great success in charge of Aberdeen
Ferguson had led Aberdeen to a league title in 1980 along with three successive Scottish Cup victories from 1982 to 1984 and success in the 1983 European Cup Winners' Cup final against Real Madrid and was Scholar's main target.

"The truth was that I had been talking to and negotiating with Alex Ferguson about a deal," Scholar revealed to The Sun. "He and I had had very long and detailed discussions.

"I told him that I was a very old-fashioned type of chap and that the most important thing was that once you agree something, once you shake someone's hand, it's concrete.

"Once you do that, then you do not - under any circumstances whatsoever - you do not go back on it. It's over. I told him that, when I first met him. So we had this big thing about the handshake."


However, Ferguson's arrival in charge at Tottenham never materialised despite Scholar being convinced the Scotsman had achieved his full potential at Pittodrie.

"We went on and on and on, discussions, negotiations, down to the minutiae of the contract," added Scholar, who took control of Spurs in 1982.

"Everything was agreed. So I said 'Can we meet?', he agreed and I said I'd like him to meet someone else on the board, Paul Bobroff. We arranged to meet in Paris on a Sunday morning, just by the airport.


"The idea was this was the moment, the seminal moment of the handshake. We'd built up to this for weeks. So we met. I said, 'Are you ready?'. He replied, 'I'm ready'.

"I said, 'Are you sure you're ready?'. He said, 'I'm sure'. So we had this seminal moment of the handshake. As you know, unfortunately, he didn't keep to it.

"He never told me why. I had my own theories but it doesn't matter anymore. It was a disappointment. He stayed at Aberdeen for another two years."


The Scottish manager then led Manchester United during a 27-year period
Ferguson won a further league title and a Cup and League Cup double during his final two years in charge of Aberdeen before beginning his tenure in charge of Manchester United in 1986.
I think Scholar has gone "full Sherwood" TBH.
Regardless he would have been sacked within 2 years by that board and after The generals success.Rumours also abounded about maradona to spurs,rivaldo and Huntelaar ;)
 
Don Diaz

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I think Scholar has gone "full Sherwood" TBH.
Regardless he would have been sacked within 2 years by that board and after The generals success.Rumours also abounded about maradona to spurs,rivaldo and Huntelaar ;)
He was a brilliant football manager and man manager, as well as having some great youth players coming through (as we have now) but he had the might/name of Man United and their cash behind him to buy success where necessary. As Mourinho and Guardiola are doing now. There's no respect in that.

Remember that lunch that Poch had with Fergie about a year ago. I wouldnt be surprised if Fergie was offering a few tips and general advice, I would imagine they could be very good friends.
 
Yid

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Seen loads on this recently...

I think we've got our Fergus if Levy wants to look at setting a legacy in motion...

It doesn't mean pumping untold nubers into players just pumping steady sensible cash into the right avenues... that may mean players... that may mean facilities... that may mean staff...

I wager that as long as it's considered and not shoestring it will produce returns and a legacy that could last 20 or 30 years...
 
skiathospurs

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Seen loads on this recently...

I think we've got our Fergus if Levy wants to look at setting a legacy in motion...

It doesn't mean pumping untold nubers into players just pumping steady sensible cash into the right avenues... that may mean players... that may mean facilities... that may mean staff...

I wager that as long as it's considered and not shoestring it will produce returns and a legacy that could last 20 or 30 years...
I think with hindsight,doing the facilities first was a good choice,and doing it well too.We must get a fair whack from the FA for england using it (training ground) every home match now, and earnt id say well over £150m the last 4 yrs now with talent sold and playing for us & kane on top of that!!.Remember when kev "id love it" keegan scrapped newcastle`s academy/youth side,how short sighted was that.Look at saints,how they have sustained a broken club financially and with a new stadium and looking pretty good now.We have a new players hotel going up at the training ground,fuck me we will be charging the away teams b&b and making more money,nfl,concerts,lets just hope the investments continue in the club and team.
 
birdonaball

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No wonder I don't bloody remember this happening....I wasn't born yet ! I was getting worried that there were gaps in my memory !
 

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