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tomorrow a group of football lads are joining together for an anti extremism march through London.
Whilst football"firms" will be joining together, there will be no shirts, flags or songs nor drinking , anyone who loves this country is welcome.......they don't want to be associated with any far right BNP, Britain First etc
Spurs fans are meeting up at the wearherspooons 9 Gracechurch str EC3 from 9.30, nearest station The Monument .I know a group from South Coast Spurs and Oxford spurs are going and I hope to join them
 

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Think this thread has the record , for most viewings without one comment.......anyway a good 3-400 Yids met at the Cross Keys, and we met up with nearly ever other London clubs firms, and some from Coventry, Oxford Brighton , amongst some groups I saw ,and betweeen 5-10,000 fans I reckon attended.
I doubt it'll feature in the papers or on the news, cause there was no screaming, shouting, violence or any arrests.......they had speakers from the Sikh community and others just generally football fans.
Will anyonefrom the Govt listen, probably not, "but for bad things to happen, good people just have to stand by and allow it to happen " .......time yo condemn any form of RELIGIOUS EXTREMISM, IN THIS COUNTRY OF MINE.....FIT IN, OR FUCK OFF
 

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Brilliant stuff. Football fans can get a bad reputation but this shows in reality everyone can appreciate sometimes there are bigger things in life! Fair play to all in attendance.
 
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Brilliant stuff. Football fans can get a bad reputation but this shows in reality everyone can appreciate sometimes there are bigger things in life! Fair play to all in attendance.
It's a shame they won't get any coverage or recognition. Until a couple of cunts have a barney and then it'll be meanstreet pt2.
 
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Typically one guy I got talking to on London Bridge just happened o be a Goooner, I said yo him, " you're so lucky this is a silent March, having seen so much practice every week at the Library ........wahaha, he took it well.
 
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Meet at Cross Keys pub 5 Gracechurch str , probably depending on where the march starts from, details,will be,confirmed a week in advance
 

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So,this Saturday 7th Oct 2017 is the 2nd Football Lads Alliance march from Hyde Park, meet at 1pm , I hope a few of you will join me and 4-5000 other,Spurs fans, showing in silent strength, how much we hate how this Govt is not being strong in tackling extremism.
The last march had 10,000 people and as there was zero trouble it didn't get reported anywhere.......even the SWP, STRUGGLED to find a real reason to condemn it.......based on promises, this time it'll be 30-50,000...not bad for an organisation only been going 18 odd weeks
At the last one, during the speeches the Finsbury mosque and Jo Cox murder was rightly condemned, but yes the most extremists actions are being carried out by those following a Peaceful religion.....so much so a young boy today was stabbed outside a mosque , because he followed the wrong form of Islam........and a few months ago an Uber driver drove from Yourkshie to Scotland, before stabbing a shop owner, again for following the wrong form of Islam.
We will be marching with X servicemen and women , a Sikh will,be addressing the crowd, and all faiths are welcomed to join us, as are those,of no faith, and not even interested in football
Really if anyone has a problem with the FLA's stance, their either saying
A) extremism is fine
B ) I'm an ostrich, I'm gonna bury my head in the sand, moan silently at how bad it is, and decide to do nothing.and hope it changes....
We all know this trouble stared with Tony Blairs forenign policy
IF ANYONE thinks it's a small minority........watch a utube video Brigitte Gabriel on Why the Silent Majority always get ignored
Bring on The FLA MARCH
 

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tomorrow a group of football lads are joining together for an anti extremism march through London.
Whilst football"firms" will be joining together, there will be no shirts, flags or songs nor drinking , anyone who loves this country is welcome.......they don't want to be associated with any far right BNP, Britain First etc
Spurs fans are meeting up at the wearherspooons 9 Gracechurch str EC3 from 9.30, nearest station The Monument .I know a group from South Coast Spurs and Oxford spurs are going and I hope to join them
This is from the 'Socialist Worker' so clearly they have their own political agenda, as well as the FLA has theirs, but it's an interesting and alternative view.

The FLA shows its true colours in Birmingham - racist and bigoted
by Socialist Worker journalists



The FLA revealed its true colours in Birmingham today (Pic: Geoff Dexter)

The Football Lads Alliance (FLA) marched in Birmingham on Saturday. It revealed an organisation that is becoming increasingly openly racist.
Between 1,500 and 2,000 people joined the FLA march. A similar number are estimated to have joined a separate march by a breakaway group—The True Democratic Football Lads Alliance—also in Birmingham.
The “original” group’s march—led by founder John Meighan—heard openly racist speeches from members of far right organisations, including Anne Marie Waters of For Britain.
The breakaway, supposedly more "respectable", heard from the Ukip party leader MEP Gerard Batten.
The FLA is lining up with, and promoting, racist and far right figures. The idea that it is a "non-politcal" movement—put forward by Meighan—has now been proven to be false.
Former English Defence League leader, the Nazi Tommy Robinson, was greeted on the march as a hero and a celebrity.
Waters, who was deemed too Islamophobic for the racist Ukip, told the crowd that Islam was “the big problem”. Marchers booed at the mention of Islam.
“I’ve heard it all. The one big excuse—you’ll offend moderate Muslims with your language. Well I’m sorry, but millions of decent British people are offended by this religion”.
She attacked the European Union (EU) as a “totalitarian, fascist tyranny” that had “knowingly and deliberately imported hell on earth to Europe. It has allowed people to be killed and raped on its streets.”
Meighan founded the FLA in June last year following the London Bridge terror attacks, claiming just to oppose extremism. He told the march today, “All we’re doing is standing up to what’s wrong. All we want is a safer place for our children and grandchildren.”
Moderates
But every speaker attacked Islam, migrants and refugees—without pretending to distinguish between “extremists” and “moderates”.

Meighan invited racists and the far right to share the stage with him (Pic: Socialist Worker)
A speaker introduced as Arlene from German organisation 21 Decibels spoke about “sexual violence against women resulting from uncontrolled mass immigration.”
“Violent misogyny is not some minor aspect of Islam—it is central,” she said. She added, “Calling someone racist for criticising a perverted belief system—as Islam is—is moronic”.
Arlene also attacked the #MeToo movement against sexual harassment. “It seems feminists have more of a problem with white men who don’t rape than with Muslim men who do,” she said.
She dismissed the complaints of sexual harassment victims involved in #MeToo as being simply about “something as harmless as a compliment, saucy comments, or the uneasy feeling after having agreed to do the casting in a hotel room.”
Luke Nash Jones from Make Britain Great Again used the language of the US alt-right, and led the crowd in chants of “We Want Trump”.
He attacked Labour home secretary Diane Abbott as a “racist,” and Stand Up To Racism as “Anglophobes”.
Problems
He claimed that “Jihadis are being given council houses while our veterans are sleeping on the streets,” and attacked migrants that “won’t speak our language and hate our culture”.
He also said that, “politicians don’t know our problems. They don’t have to struggle for a job because of undercutting by migrants”.
Nash Jones inexplicably claimed that “The Labour Party banned white men from their conference.”
And taking a swipe at what he called “effeminate men”, he began a homophobic and transphobic tirade.
Politicians were “debating whether grown men should be allowed into girls lavatories,” adding to big cheers, “There are only two genders”.
Robinson himself didn’t speak—but was lauded by every speaker. His arrival at the march was heralded by huge cheers and the entire crowd singing his name.
Big sections of the crowd kept singing his name along the short route of the march. These soon turned to chants of “We want our country back”.
As the march finished at the multi-cultural Bull Ring market, marchers began pointing at Asian people and chanting, “Stick your fucking Isis up your arse”.
Both marches together were smaller than the one in London last year. The split between them shows these new formations can be unstable.
But their combined size is still a clear sign that the racist far right has potential to regroup and grow on the streets.
Meighan announced that the FLA will hold its next march in Manchester. It will need a serious response from anti-racists.
Anti-racists take a stand against the FLA in Birmingham
Over 200 people joined a protest against the FLA called by Stand Up To Racism (SUTR) in the city centre.

Anti-racists stand against the FLA (Pic: Socialist Worker)
There was strong support from trade unionist with banners from the UCU, Midlands TUC and several NEU branches. There were speakers from these unions and the CWU.
Speakers from local groups insisted that Birmingham would not be divided and that the FLA was not welcome.
There was anger that striking home care workers could not hold a rally in the city centre because of the FLA presence.
Weyman Bennett, co-convenor of SUTR, told Socialist Worker, "It is very important we stood together in unity today, but the size of the FLA marches can't be ignored. There needs to be a bigger and stronger united movement against the FLA and the racism and Islamophobia they feed on "
 
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This is from the 'Socialist Worker' so clearly they have their own political agenda, as well as the FLA has theirs, but it's an interesting and alternative view.

The FLA shows its true colours in Birmingham - racist and bigoted
by Socialist Worker journalists



The FLA revealed its true colours in Birmingham today (Pic: Geoff Dexter)

The Football Lads Alliance (FLA) marched in Birmingham on Saturday. It revealed an organisation that is becoming increasingly openly racist.
Between 1,500 and 2,000 people joined the FLA march. A similar number are estimated to have joined a separate march by a breakaway group—The True Democratic Football Lads Alliance—also in Birmingham.
The “original” group’s march—led by founder John Meighan—heard openly racist speeches from members of far right organisations, including Anne Marie Waters of For Britain.
The breakaway, supposedly more "respectable", heard from the Ukip party leader MEP Gerard Batten.
The FLA is lining up with, and promoting, racist and far right figures. The idea that it is a "non-politcal" movement—put forward by Meighan—has now been proven to be false.
Former English Defence League leader, the Nazi Tommy Robinson, was greeted on the march as a hero and a celebrity.
Waters, who was deemed too Islamophobic for the racist Ukip, told the crowd that Islam was “the big problem”. Marchers booed at the mention of Islam.
“I’ve heard it all. The one big excuse—you’ll offend moderate Muslims with your language. Well I’m sorry, but millions of decent British people are offended by this religion”.
She attacked the European Union (EU) as a “totalitarian, fascist tyranny” that had “knowingly and deliberately imported hell on earth to Europe. It has allowed people to be killed and raped on its streets.”
Meighan founded the FLA in June last year following the London Bridge terror attacks, claiming just to oppose extremism. He told the march today, “All we’re doing is standing up to what’s wrong. All we want is a safer place for our children and grandchildren.”
Moderates
But every speaker attacked Islam, migrants and refugees—without pretending to distinguish between “extremists” and “moderates”.

Meighan invited racists and the far right to share the stage with him (Pic: Socialist Worker)
A speaker introduced as Arlene from German organisation 21 Decibels spoke about “sexual violence against women resulting from uncontrolled mass immigration.”
“Violent misogyny is not some minor aspect of Islam—it is central,” she said. She added, “Calling someone racist for criticising a perverted belief system—as Islam is—is moronic”.
Arlene also attacked the #MeToo movement against sexual harassment. “It seems feminists have more of a problem with white men who don’t rape than with Muslim men who do,” she said.
She dismissed the complaints of sexual harassment victims involved in #MeToo as being simply about “something as harmless as a compliment, saucy comments, or the uneasy feeling after having agreed to do the casting in a hotel room.”
Luke Nash Jones from Make Britain Great Again used the language of the US alt-right, and led the crowd in chants of “We Want Trump”.
He attacked Labour home secretary Diane Abbott as a “racist,” and Stand Up To Racism as “Anglophobes”.
Problems
He claimed that “Jihadis are being given council houses while our veterans are sleeping on the streets,” and attacked migrants that “won’t speak our language and hate our culture”.
He also said that, “politicians don’t know our problems. They don’t have to struggle for a job because of undercutting by migrants”.
Nash Jones inexplicably claimed that “The Labour Party banned white men from their conference.”
And taking a swipe at what he called “effeminate men”, he began a homophobic and transphobic tirade.
Politicians were “debating whether grown men should be allowed into girls lavatories,” adding to big cheers, “There are only two genders”.
Robinson himself didn’t speak—but was lauded by every speaker. His arrival at the march was heralded by huge cheers and the entire crowd singing his name.
Big sections of the crowd kept singing his name along the short route of the march. These soon turned to chants of “We want our country back”.
As the march finished at the multi-cultural Bull Ring market, marchers began pointing at Asian people and chanting, “Stick your fucking Isis up your arse”.
Both marches together were smaller than the one in London last year. The split between them shows these new formations can be unstable.
But their combined size is still a clear sign that the racist far right has potential to regroup and grow on the streets.
Meighan announced that the FLA will hold its next march in Manchester. It will need a serious response from anti-racists.
Anti-racists take a stand against the FLA in Birmingham
Over 200 people joined a protest against the FLA called by Stand Up To Racism (SUTR) in the city centre.

Anti-racists stand against the FLA (Pic: Socialist Worker)
There was strong support from trade unionist with banners from the UCU, Midlands TUC and several NEU branches. There were speakers from these unions and the CWU.
Speakers from local groups insisted that Birmingham would not be divided and that the FLA was not welcome.
There was anger that striking home care workers could not hold a rally in the city centre because of the FLA presence.
Weyman Bennett, co-convenor of SUTR, told Socialist Worker, "It is very important we stood together in unity today, but the size of the FLA marches can't be ignored. There needs to be a bigger and stronger united movement against the FLA and the racism and Islamophobia they feed on "
 
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As you say , SWP , totally unbiased .....it would be like an Arsenal fan doing a match report and being subjective about a Spurs game .
I only went on the first March , I would have gone in the 2nd but twas my Wedding anniversary, and the Birmingham well it was Birmingham and there has been a fraction in the FLA.
In between the DFLA sprung up , because unfortunately John Meghan , felt the FLa was his cash cow , and he was the leader .and no one could tell him where he was going wrong .
Let’s get this straight , I don’t beleive either organisation are Rascists, though some followers of them will have rascists tendencies . I will concur that they were Bourne out of the frustration of a certain Islamic faith blowing up buildings and killing people on the streets of Britain and organised rapes by certain members of their community ( Pakistani Muslim apparently make up less than 5% of the population , and that includes women, children and the elederly , but make up 80% of those convicted of rape, of predominately white and Sikh girls .....I find that abhorant and will stand with any group d that won’t bury their head in the sand and think it will improve by giving them Sharia law or any of their other intentions.
If anyone doesn’t think this is their intention , re watch V from the 1980’s , and research Saddique Khan who represented known Muslim terrorists in his previous work, and had been known to say , “ terrorism , is just a fact of everyday life living in a big city........er no , I want to hear him say , any Mosque spouting terrorist ideology, will be shut down ,as will any Islamic school , any person involved in FMG will be jailed for a minimum of 5 years , anyone who systematically rapes in organised gangs will be jailed 10-20 years. And we will fund Social services to allow this to happen , and we will ban any pro Hezbollah demos and anyone who carries a banner , “British troops go to Hell, or death tomthe British Police” mandatory 3 yr sentence.
Two weeks ago a Russian man and his daughter were poisoned, and over 100 Russian diplomats worldwide have been deported.
In the last 3 years over 50 terrorists attacks have been carried out by members of a death cult , called Islam , and yet Not 1 Iman or terrrosits members family has been deported to the place of their birth.

My, FIT IN , OR FUCK OFF” - is my mantra
 
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As you say , SWP , totally unbiased .....it would be like an Arsenal fan doing a match report and being subjective about a Spurs game .
I only went on the first March , I would have gone in the 2nd but twas my Wedding anniversary, and the Birmingham well it was Birmingham and there has been a fraction in the FLA.
In between the DFLA sprung up , because unfortunately John Meghan , felt the FLa was his cash cow , and he was the leader .and no one could tell him where he was going wrong .
Let’s get this straight , I don’t beleive either organisation are Rascists, though some followers of them will have rascists tendencies . I will concur that they were Bourne out of the frustration of a certain Islamic faith blowing up buildings and killing people on the streets of Britain and organised rapes by certain members of their community ( Pakistani Muslim apparently make up less than 5% of the population , and that includes women, children and the elederly , but make up 80% of those convicted of rape, of predominately white and Sikh girls .....I find that abhorant and will stand with any group d that won’t bury their head in the sand and think it will improve by giving them Sharia law or any of their other intentions.
If anyone doesn’t think this is their intention , re watch V from the 1980’s , and research Saddique Khan who represented known Muslim terrorists in his previous work, and had been known to say , “ terrorism , is just a fact of everyday life living in a big city........er no , I want to hear him say , any Mosque spouting terrorist ideology, will be shut down ,as will any Islamic school , any person involved in FMG will be jailed for a minimum of 5 years , anyone who systematically rapes in organised gangs will be jailed 10-20 years. And we will fund Social services to allow this to happen , and we will ban any pro Hezbollah demos and anyone who carries a banner , “British troops go to Hell, or death tomthe British Police” mandatory 3 yr sentence.
Two weeks ago a Russian man and his daughter were poisoned, and over 100 Russian diplomats worldwide have been deported.
In the last 3 years over 50 terrorists attacks have been carried out by members of a death cult , called Islam , and yet Not 1 Iman or terrrosits members family has been deported to the place of their birth.

My, FIT IN , OR FUCK OFF” - is my mantra
' a death cult called Islam' - Wow that's a bit strong! If that we true then we would all be dead. Do you know the difference between Islam and Christianity? There ain't much. Which form of Islam is a death cult or should we just apply this to all muslims?

"Pakistani Muslim apparently make up less than 5% of the population , and that includes women, children and the elederly , but make up 80% of those convicted of rape, of predominately white and Sikh girls" - That's another bold statement, and false. The way you say it makes it seem like you a are stating a fact. The fact actually is that of the 222 people convicted and jailed who were members of the convicted grooming gangs, 80% were muslims, not 80% of the rapists in the country! I agree that it's terrible, and they are being caught and jailed, but to requote false figures to make your point is not helping anyone.

Do some research you say, OK, done that, but I didn't use Tommy Robinson as the source, I thought real facts would be better. Sadiqh Khan defended terrorists? Do you mean the 3 British blokes convicted by the corrupt Egyptian regime that were identified by 'you know who' as 9/11 terrorists? Nah, fake news again, Gordon Brown also defended those British blokes who had been tortured by the Egypitan government and who weren't charged or convicted for terrorism. They might have been extremists, most people in Egypt are, but it's all the same to you I suppose.

I know you won't believe this because he is a muslim but Mr Khan is actually anti-terrorsist. What he said and you have misquoted was:

"Part and parcel of living in a great global city is you’ve got to be prepared for these things, you’ve got to be vigilant, you’ve got to support the police doing an incredibly hard job. We must never accept terrorists being successful, we must never accept that terrorists can destroy our life or destroy the way we lead our lives.”

Who is 'giving them Sharia law' - I am confused about this bit.

I agree with stopping abiusive banners, but I include anti-islamic ones in that as well - or is abusive language towards muslims the free speech you FLA blokes are so paasionate about.? The percentage of muslims who display these obscene message on banners is so small it almost couldn't be measured, there have been arrests and convictions for this, maybe the penalties are not high enough, but I think the incident everyone is so riled up about involved about 40 nutcases and was 8 years ago.

I also agree that anybody who rapes someone should never walk out jail ever, regardless of their religion or colour, but unlike you blokes I don't judge 2.75 million British people by the actions of a minuscule minority. I expect you will disagree but maths is maths and diving a huge number by a very small number gives a tiny percentage.

Everybody in this country with the exception of a few mentally ill fanatics are against terrorism and the radicalisation by evil people who twist a religion that is not remotely a 'death cult' into something dark and obscene. This people do not represent the vast number of muslim who are not extremists.

Fit in or fuck off? I suppose you are accepting your Sikh friends as 'fitting in', yeah they hate muslims so they're OK.

I have experienced groups lie the FLA in so many different forms in my lifetime, back in the 70's I was attacked and told to 'go home' because 'all paddies were terrorist's, that was ironic because I had only been there once and I was born in London,, my best mate was also attacked and told the same because 'all blacks were muggers', he was born in the same hospital as me. The Sikhs use to get it as well, the Jews, the Maltese everybody gets a go. NF, BN, EDL., KKK, FLA - all the same to me. They all say they're not racist, but.....

I read that the FLA was formed in protest at the UK authorities not doing enough to sop terrorism after the London Bridge attack, the terrorsits were killed 8 minutes after the attacks started, Who knows what the government, MI5 and the security forces do to prevent these terrible crimes, I don't believe they they allow these things to happen, and I believe they do a great deal, so I don't understand what your FLA wants with its marches and protests - actually I do, I know exactly what you want.
 
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' a death cult called Islam' - Wow that's a bit strong! If that we true then we would all be dead. Do you know the difference between Islam and Christianity? There ain't much. Which form of Islam is a death cult or should we just apply this to all muslims?

"Pakistani Muslim apparently make up less than 5% of the population , and that includes women, children and the elederly , but make up 80% of those convicted of rape, of predominately white and Sikh girls" - That's another bold statement, and false. The way you say it makes it seem like you a are stating a fact. The fact actually is that of the 222 people convicted and jailed who were members of the convicted grooming gangs, 80% were muslims, not 80% of the rapists in the country! I agree that it's terrible, and they are being caught and jailed, but to requote false figures to make your point is not helping anyone.

Do some research you say, OK, done that, but I didn't use Tommy Robinson as the source, I thought real facts would be better. Sadiqh Khan defended terrorists? Do you mean the 3 British blokes convicted by the corrupt Egyptian regime that were identified by 'you know who' as 9/11 terrorists? Nah, fake news again, Gordon Brown also defended those British blokes who had been tortured by the Egypitan government and who weren't charged or convicted for terrorism. They might have been extremists, most people in Egypt are, but it's all the same to you I suppose.

I know you won't believe this because he is a muslim but Mr Khan is actually anti-terrorsist. What he said and you have misquoted was:

"Part and parcel of living in a great global city is you’ve got to be prepared for these things, you’ve got to be vigilant, you’ve got to support the police doing an incredibly hard job. We must never accept terrorists being successful, we must never accept that terrorists can destroy our life or destroy the way we lead our lives.”

Who is 'giving them Sharia law' - I am confused about this bit.

I agree with stopping abiusive banners, but I include anti-islamic ones in that as well - or is abusive language towards muslims the free speech you FLA blokes are so paasionate about.? The percentage of muslims who display these obscene message on banners is so small it almost couldn't be measured, there have been arrests and convictions for this, maybe the penalties are not high enough, but I think the incident everyone is so riled up about involved about 40 nutcases and was 8 years ago.

I also agree that anybody who rapes someone should never walk out jail ever, regardless of their religion or colour, but unlike you blokes I don't judge 2.75 million British people by the actions of a minuscule minority. I expect you will disagree but maths is maths and diving a huge number by a very small number gives a tiny percentage.

Everybody in this country with the exception of a few mentally ill fanatics are against terrorism and the radicalisation by evil people who twist a religion that is not remotely a 'death cult' into something dark and obscene. This people do not represent the vast number of muslim who are not extremists.

Fit in or fuck off? I suppose you are accepting your Sikh friends as 'fitting in', yeah they hate muslims so they're OK.

I have experienced groups lie the FLA in so many different forms in my lifetime, back in the 70's I was attacked and told to 'go home' because 'all paddies were terrorist's, that was ironic because I had only been there once and I was born in London,, my best mate was also attacked and told the same because 'all blacks were muggers', he was born in the same hospital as me. The Sikhs use to get it as well, the Jews, the Maltese everybody gets a go. NF, BN, EDL., KKK, FLA - all the same to me. They all say they're not racist, but.....

I read that the FLA was formed in protest at the UK authorities not doing enough to sop terrorism after the London Bridge attack, the terrorsits were killed 8 minutes after the attacks started, Who knows what the government, MI5 and the security forces do to prevent these terrible crimes, I don't believe they they allow these things to happen, and I believe they do a great deal, so I don't understand what your FLA wants with its marches and protests - actually I do, I know exactly what you want.
Actually I normally downgrade the figures so it can’t be misrepresented , and I usually use figures provided by a FB called Mohammed Fyaz , an XMuslim who tries to help other X Muslims , apparently it’s a really hard cult to leave ......
I find it interesting how the Left , and their close associates at The LGBT side with the Muslims, when they see what the radicals do in the Middle East to their like minded souls
Have you ever seen the interesting tube of Brigette Gabriel ( wish I knew how to add these things, but I’m bit of a technophobe , it might be a minority but they are the ones who drive the agenda
 
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As you say , SWP , totally unbiased .....it would be like an Arsenal fan doing a match report and being subjective about a Spurs game .
I only went on the first March , I would have gone in the 2nd but twas my Wedding anniversary, and the Birmingham well it was Birmingham and there has been a fraction in the FLA.
In between the DFLA sprung up , because unfortunately John Meghan , felt the FLa was his cash cow , and he was the leader .and no one could tell him where he was going wrong .
Let’s get this straight , I don’t beleive either organisation are Rascists, though some followers of them will have rascists tendencies . I will concur that they were Bourne out of the frustration of a certain Islamic faith blowing up buildings and killing people on the streets of Britain and organised rapes by certain members of their community ( Pakistani Muslim apparently make up less than 5% of the population , and that includes women, children and the elederly , but make up 80% of those convicted of rape, of predominately white and Sikh girls .....I find that abhorant and will stand with any group d that won’t bury their head in the sand and think it will improve by giving them Sharia law or any of their other intentions.
If anyone doesn’t think this is their intention , re watch V from the 1980’s , and research Saddique Khan who represented known Muslim terrorists in his previous work, and had been known to say , “ terrorism , is just a fact of everyday life living in a big city........er no , I want to hear him say , any Mosque spouting terrorist ideology, will be shut down ,as will any Islamic school , any person involved in FMG will be jailed for a minimum of 5 years , anyone who systematically rapes in organised gangs will be jailed 10-20 years. And we will fund Social services to allow this to happen , and we will ban any pro Hezbollah demos and anyone who carries a banner , “British troops go to Hell, or death tomthe British Police” mandatory 3 yr sentence.
Two weeks ago a Russian man and his daughter were poisoned, and over 100 Russian diplomats worldwide have been deported.
In the last 3 years over 50 terrorists attacks have been carried out by members of a death cult , called Islam , and yet Not 1 Iman or terrrosits members family has been deported to the place of their birth.

My, FIT IN , OR FUCK OFF” - is my mantra
Fit in with what....? What box do you want people to fit into bruv?

This sounds like the entire fuckin problem in a nutshell.

If you don't look like, talk like, act like what I do then I don't want to know? Fuck being multi cultural and learning about different cultures and religions when it's a lot easier to automatically go to the default feeling of fear and hate. It smacks of having your fucking eyes half closed and being force fed shite simply because you are either too lazy or thick to formulate a true genuine opinion of your own. That is the perfect formula for somone to be radicalised. Has this process started on you like is has for the weak minded lost individuals who are lied to about committing terrible atrocities in the name of Islam? Whats next for you mate, gonna strap up and visit a mosque??? That'll show em won't it!!! Wake the fuck up.

Open your fucking eyes and realise there is nothing to be afraid of. There is no sky fairy of any kind let alone Muhammad, God or Ganesh. There is simply humans. Some are cunts the majority are not. Some need a god to believe in something some dont. Everyone thinks these acts are abhorrent. Not just little Englanders.

The FLA I believe was started honourably by people wanting to help... the cunts (as mentioned above) fed on people's fear and have turned into a mouthpiece of religious hate against any fucker who doesn't fit in their boxes. Don't be radicalized, educate yourself, challenge the biggoted views and stand up for good people.

Not that it has a single fucking thing to do with the FLAs racist agenda but the Chemical attack cannot be linked to anything you have written.

Russia, a country commited what could be construed as an act of war against the UK. They used a banned WMD.

Does not in any way compare to:

The "death cult of islam" as you call it is not a recognised state and is a rag tag bunch of radicalised loonies that in no way shape or form represents the faith of Islam.
 
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Actually I normally downgrade the figures so it can’t be misrepresented , and I usually use figures provided by a FB called Mohammed Fyaz , an XMuslim who tries to help other X Muslims , apparently it’s a really hard cult to leave ......
I find it interesting how the Left , and their close associates at The LGBT side with the Muslims, when they see what the radicals do in the Middle East to their like minded souls
Have you ever seen the interesting tube of Brigette Gabriel ( wish I knew how to add these things, but I’m bit of a technophobe , it might be a minority but they are the ones who drive the agenda
What do you mean you usually downgrade the figures? You quoted a figure that was totally and completely fucking false. Someone told you a number and you believed it, posting it here and trying to spread the fucking lies. You say that a tiny minority are trying to drive the agenda, you should know because you are doing exactly the same thing.

Islam not a cult, only in your mind and the minds of other people who believe stuff they see on Youtube and on social media. If Islam is a cult then so is Christianity, Judaism, Sikhism, Buddhism and every other religion. The huge majority of muslims are decent people, but like in any group of people they are lunatics, but you want to brand all of them as members of a 'death cult'.

You stated FALSE information as facts. That is what extremists do - and I thought you and your FLA gang members were against extremism? I hate the false teachers in Islam as much as you do, one of them was jailed for life today - good. I am left wing, but I don't side with anybody because of their religion, if a muslim bloke is a terrorist or promotes terrorism or anything unlawful then I want the cunt locked up, but I don't make up stupid hateful lies about millions of people because a few of them are evil.

Its has got fuck all to do with the fucking left siding with anyone. I have not bothered responding to your FLA stuff before, but when you post fucking lies as fact, I am going to counter them with truth. Just because you want to believe something does not make it true. You see siding with innocent, decent people as being a political thing, it fucking is not and what the fuck LGBT has got to do with anything - fuck only knows. Do you hate them as well?
 
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Oh great, I quote figures from a guy named Mohammad Fayaz who runs a forum called M.A.T.E ( Multiracial Alliance Tackling Extremism ) a Pakistani X Muslim, he states that Pakistani Muslims account for about 3% of the population , ( wiki pop 1.8% in 2011) so I doubt if it’s grown above 3% yet........so yeah I underplayed it.
But when you and other apologists for a Cult, come back SHOUTING AND SWEARING , That’s when they lose the arguement , cause there don’t list facts. And yes I call it a Cult, because people find it difficult to leave, because the punishment is Death, not a great option . At least if a Christian turns to Atheism or Judaism or any other religion , it’s not punishable by death.
I grew up in Woking, the first place in Britain to have a Mosque , in a town with a massive Italian Immigrant population , so yeah at school I had loads in the class , some of whom I got on well with, the rest kept themselves to themselves.
I assume you ignored watching Brigette Gabriel’s video , oh you probably did , but it doesn’t match your agenda. The Imans and Scholars pushing the agenda throughout Europe are the minority but they’re the ones leading what’s happening, and the 95% of Normal Muslims are irrelevant.......otherwise, when the London bombings , and Manchester bombings took place, they’d be on the streets protesting , Not in my name , but no Silence is as good as acceptance..
So I’m pushing an agenda , and according to you I’m in a minority, well yes I’m left handed, the largest discrimated 10% in the country( Tic) , but I’m part of a massive majority of people who read what the Imans have read and Yes there maybe only 50 odd of them , but they’ve got an ever expanding groups of listeners
Since you last lived in London , the street would have been predominately white, now if you went back I would imagine it’s 80% Not.........both my parents came from Wood Green , and we all know how that area has changed over the last 50 years
As you’re a fan of utube try watching MoFyaz taking on Ali Dawa , who thinks sex with a child is ok .
I for one , with a 14 year old girl , will ensure she never gets in a cab, unless there are 3 boys with her , and she’s dropped off first, because as I’ve stated 80%+ of convicted rapists have been Pakistani Muslims when in organised child trafficking.......I despise the bbc , when they get called Asians , that’s an insult to 90% of Asians.....
Anyway youlll notice I didn’t need to SHOUT , NOR TO SWEAR TO TRY AND MAKE A POINT ( tIll now )
Oh so now I don’t like LGBT , well I know two people , one of whom for over 25 years who had a child, but HE is now married to her wife, and my local barmaid , trans from female to male and is now working for the organisation , oh and my uncle and my nephew are both gay , so yeah I hate them too
You still think 17m Rascists voted for Brexit , grow up , and I’ve heard that a large number of x pats living in France are actually moving back to the UK , as it is becoming more dangerous living there with the influx of immigrants, cause everywhere they go , the crime rate shoots up and sexual assaults increases , that’s not made up , cause it’s even accepted by papers like The a Guardian and The Mirror .
 

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