International Politics

[Dorset]

I'm bored with Brexit, everybody with an IQ higher than 12 knows it's a con and it's pointless talking to facists so let's have a bash at other countries.

I'll start with Brunei, a good pal of the UK, we sell them loads of weapons so they're good guys like our other best buddies the Saudis.

In a four-page letter to MEPs, the kingdom’s mission to the EU called for “tolerance, respect and understanding” with regard to the country’s desire to preserve its traditional values and “family lineage”.

What a laugh eh? These medieval tyrants want 'tolerance, respect and understanding' for executing folks for the sexuality they were born with, tolerance for their whipping people who don't dress in the 'correct' clothes for their gender and amputation for thieves. I expect the EU will send a strong letter to the sultan - Hassanal Bolkiah,who is one of the world’s richest leaders with a personal wealth of about $20bn (£15bn),thanking him for his investments and letting him know that the EU and the UK will of course respect his country's traditions.

Brunei can fuck off, along with Saudi, Dubai, Qatar and all those other places people with zero principles or moral values like to have nice holidays in to or sell guns to, Everybody can make a difference, don't go there, write to your MP, your MEP (chose the one you like) - of course you Brexitards won't have a clue who your MP or MEPs are so you can just ignore politics while gobbing off about democracy - which you don't get either. Whoops, I went a bit Brexitty, sorry, force of habit.

 

[Yid]

Yeah remember the thousands of Turks that are going to invade when we stay in the EU..... Oh, we're still in the EU and there not here yet....! it is a long way away I suppose. Them and Egypt can be added to the list of 3rd work shit tips I want nothing to do with..

I'm all for respecting traditions and cultures.... when they're not from the dark ages. We used to hang people and stone clever people.... following Brexit I expect we'll crack on with reintroducing those traditions.

It'll be these countries the isolationist countries and Facist regimes will first attempt to control and conquer.

I was thinking this just the other day but didnt know if I was just having a TIA or it was a genuine thought.....

What's the next step for the right wing movement. Who will be first to openly declare a "programme to reintroduce patriotism" to their country.

I suppose now the Ukraine is run by a comedian they could give it a bash as they've taken the heat off of our fucking jokers in Westminster.

In all seriousness what was Uncle Adolfs first step? From memory i think he removed the clever people (that wouldnt help him) and then chose a target to blame all the economic woes on, and then tried to destroy all history of anyone that didnt dance to their insane tune.

 

[Don Diaz]

Ohhhh this is a huge thread....where to start? I don’t know....will have a bash in the morning, might be America, or have we done with Trump. Might be Venezuela then....or Africa, or China....blimey so much shit going on in the world at the moment

 

[USspur]

Ohhhh this is a huge thread....where to start? I don’t know....will have a bash in the morning, might be America, or have we done with Trump. Might be Venezuela then....or Africa, or China....blimey so much shit going on in the world at the moment

ah, the country of africa...

 

[Dorset]

ah, the country of africa...

Maybe he meant Nambia? There's loads going on there,

 

[Yid]

Are we not going to discuss the comedian in charge of the Ukrain now?

 

[Dorset]

Are we not going to discuss the comedian in charge of the Ukrain now?

Nah, quite normal these days for countries beginning with U - see UK, USA, Uruguay for examples all run by (unfunny) comedians. Uzbekistan? I have no scooby but I expect they have a clown in charge as well.

 

[Yid]

Nah, quite normal these days for countries beginning with U - see UK, USA, Uruguay for examples all run by (unfunny) comedians. Uzbekistan? I have no scooby but I expect they have a clown in charge as well.

It represents worldwide discord... Brexit, Trump, Macron and now this guy...... it does seem that people are well pissed off with their lot and they want a change.

All these movements are protest votes against the current establishment. A sensible approach would be to suggest a radical reform of how we do shit. A more modern approach to how we govern in this modern world... trouble with that is that that idea seriously pisses on the very expensive chips of those running these archaic establishments and destabalises their power and wealth. They'll fight like fuck against that idea.

We have needed change for a long time as we and our interests are not fully represented. What or how that change is I have no idea but I can see a fair few revolutions kicking off where people have fuck all to lose by giving it a go.

I think were a long time safe of being thrust into a civil war because people like their flat screen TV's and smart phones too much to risk loosing them. Were plicated by our comfortable lives. Brexit and the lowering of living standards that accompany it could very well piss enough off to make some noise, but were not gonna be starting an uprising akin to the Arab spring I dont think.

Maybe this new political movement will be brave enough to genuinely challenge the status quo and change UK politics to represent those it's supposed to. Maybe not.

Anyways the world is fucked and climate chnage is a HOAX.....

 

[Dorset]

It represents worldwide discord... Brexit, Trump, Macron and now this guy...... it does seem that people are well pissed off with their lot and they want a change.

All these movements are protest votes against the current establishment. A sensible approach would be to suggest a radical reform of how we do shit. A more modern approach to how we govern in this modern world... trouble with that is that that idea seriously pisses on the very expensive chips of those running these archaic establishments and destabalises their power and wealth. They'll fight like fuck against that idea.

We have needed change for a long time as we and our interests are not fully represented. What or how that change is I have no idea but I can see a fair few revolutions kicking off where people have fuck all to lose by giving it a go.

I think were a long time safe of being thrust into a civil war because people like their flat screen TV's and smart phones too much to risk loosing them. Were plicated by our comfortable lives. Brexit and the lowering of living standards that accompany it could very well piss enough off to make some noise, but were not gonna be starting an uprising akin to the Arab spring I dont think.

Maybe this new political movement will be brave enough to genuinely challenge the status quo and change UK politics to represent those it's supposed to. Maybe not.

Anyways the world is fucked and climate chnage is a HOAX.....

"We have needed change for a long time as we and our interests are not fully represented. What or how that change is I have no idea but I can see a fair few revolutions kicking off where people have fuck all to lose by giving it a go."

Yep, change is needed but sadly people were led to believe that Brexit would be that change. The Money, which will always be in the hands of the few stirred up their xenophobia and used the tried and trusted method of blaming somebody else for the problems the Money had caused. Farage and his band of nazis use the EU, Trump goes for the Latinos, Robinson and all those other cunts in the EDl, NF, BNP, FLA go for the muslims - they are all fucking nazis and if it upsets anybody when I say that I am not too bothered. All the extremist regimes started out like this, left or right. Pol Pot, Hitler, Lenin, Mao didn't start off saying they would exterminate millions of people and enslave millions more.

 

[Don Diaz]

There must be an alternative, I'm just not sure what it is yet. Humans are always going to disagree, so for everyone to be represented the only obvious solution at present is some form of democratic proportional representation. The problem with that is that it's argued it makes for weak government and compromises all the time. Personally I don't know and I don't think any one else does either because I don't think we've ever experienced it. It will never happen though, because neither of the two big parties want it for obvious reasons.

I wonder whether we could actually disband 'parties' in the old sense, and vote for people. Lets say that 10 different people want to be PM, We all vote and the majority wins, same for Chancellor, Foreign Secretary, Defence, Health, Education and so on. Once the 'government is elected' they all have to get on with it but hopefully we end up with the best people in the best positions.

It's probably deeply flawed, but we can't keep bouncing from Tories to Labour every 4 and half years, with the majority of the people unrepresented.

Sorry this was supposed to be an International Politics thread. Without delving too deeply into individual countries and indeed continents ( ) it seems one rule should universally apply 'Dictators Out', they may well be good in the very short term (Hitler, Mao, Trump) they are a brutal, horrendous, disaster long term. The modern world calls for a modern people based solution, How to arrive at that is the issue. Zimbabwe is a good example of where an ideology can go badly wrong. Over simplified, Mugabe - initially everyone's (except the white farmers) hero for giving the land back to the workers, actually ruined the country, as most had neither the knowledge, the skills or the tools to do the job. He eventually evolved as a dicator, all in all an Animal farm, scenario. With 20/20 hindsight a period of managed change and re-distribution of wealth would have yielded better results. i'm sure this can be said of many African countries and elsewhere in the middle east. That's my ideology I think, Problem is it's an ideology..........

 

[Dorset]

There must be an alternative, I'm just not sure what it is yet. Humans are always going to disagree, so for everyone to be represented the only obvious solution at present is some form of democratic proportional representation. The problem with that is that it's argued it makes for weak government and compromises all the time. Personally I don't know and I don't think any one else does either because I don't think we've ever experienced it. It will never happen though, because neither of the two big parties want it for obvious reasons.

I wonder whether we could actually disband 'parties' in the old sense, and vote for people. Lets say that 10 different people want to be PM, We all vote and the majority wins, same for Chancellor, Foreign Secretary, Defence, Health, Education and so on. Once the 'government is elected' they all have to get on with it but hopefully we end up with the best people in the best positions.

It's probably deeply flawed, but we can't keep bouncing from Tories to Labour every 4 and half years, with the majority of the people unrepresented.

Sorry this was supposed to be an International Politics thread. Without delving too deeply into individual countries and indeed continents ( ) it seems one rule should universally apply 'Dictators Out', they may well be good in the very short term (Hitler, Mao, Trump) they are a brutal, horrendous, disaster long term. The modern world calls for a modern people based solution, How to arrive at that is the issue. Zimbabwe is a good example of where an ideology can go badly wrong. Over simplified, Mugabe - initially everyone's (except the white farmers) hero for giving the land back to the workers, actually ruined the country, as most had neither the knowledge, the skills or the tools to do the job. He eventually evolved as a dicator, all in all an Animal farm, scenario. With 20/20 hindsight a period of managed change and re-distribution of wealth would have yielded better results. i'm sure this can be said of many African countries and elsewhere in the middle east. That's my ideology I think, Problem is it's an ideology..........

It's a tough one mate. Yes, PR would make for 'weak government and compromises all the time' but that would be the same as we have had since 2010 when David Macaroon didn't get a majority and had to do a deal with the Lib Dems, then in 2015 he got a sliver of a majority, not enough for a strong government then the wicked witch lost even that tiny majority and had to do a deal with the devil. At least with PR there is more of a chance or representation for everyone, this current system is bollocks.

Compromises are good. Nobody will compromise or do what is best for the country at the moment they are all party-people and self-serving. The total fuckup of Remain supporting parties fighting the EU elections against each other, giving that cunt Farage and his more respectable looking nazis (they can say they didn't vote UKIP because they are total nazis and so they are not nazis - but they are) an easy win is a classic example. Oh dear I said nazi 3 times in one sentence, but if they look like one, sound like one and have the same ideologies as one then they probably are one.

 

[Dorset]

I suppose it's OK for an International Politics thread to revert to Brexit, because Brexit will cause pain and suffering to the whole world, that will please many Brexitters because as long as those foreigners feel a tiny bit of pain, the big, throbbing pain suffered by them and the 63% who did not vote for this fuckup will be worth it.