Lamenting Labour

[Strikegold]

Well do you ?
Winter Fuel allowance
Open the floodgates for boat people.
The king of the wooden tops Starmer receiving a donation of posh clothes and giving a free pass to number 10 for it.
His wife also receiving free clothes to the value of around 20k and not declaring it.
Greedy Hypocrites.

Feel free to add to the list.....

 

[Strikegold]

Lammy argued that the first lady in the USA has a clothing budget, so it's normal for spouses of leaders to have clothes paid for.
The first lady has no allowance by the state in the USA. Lammy gets it wrong again.

 

[DMackay]

Well do you ?
Winter Fuel allowance
Open the floodgates for boat people.
The king of the wooden tops Starmer receiving a donation of posh clothes and giving a free pass to number 10 for it.
His wife also receiving free clothes to the value of around 20k and not declaring it.
Greedy Hypocrites.

Feel free to add to the list.....

Free theatre tickets for Ed Miliband?

 

[spurious]

Is our man lamenting Labour, or lamenting Starmer? There's an argument to be made that your new PM is a wolf in sheep's clothing, and that all of the above policies are Tory-flavoured anyway.

Except for immigration. And that shit's inevitable, like it or not, and the true powers that be - capital, not blueish or reddish pols - want it, even if they whip up zenophobia to train up "patriotic" acolytes whilst simultaneously teaching the newcomers to keep their heads down.

Promised myself I wouldn't get involved in this thread, but I'm honestly intrigued to how folks feel about it. Not having a go because I'm not a UK citizen, but workers of the world unite and all that...

 

[DMackay]

Is our man lamenting Labour, or lamenting Starmer? There's an argument to be made that your new PM is a wolf in sheep's clothing, and that all of the above policies are Tory-flavoured anyway.

Except for immigration. And that shit's inevitable, like it or not, and the true powers that be - capital, not blueish or reddish pols - want it, even if they whip up zenophobia to train up "patriotic" acolytes whilst simultaneously teaching the newcomers to keep their heads down.

Promised myself I wouldn't get involved in this thread, but I'm honestly intrigued to how folks feel about it. Not having a go because I'm not a UK citizen, but workers of the world unite and all that...

I’ve never rated Starmer and I’m not sure that his Cabinet do either!

As an orator he’s shite as evidenced today banging on about returning the ‘Sausages’!!

Labour have never had a female leader but that could change!

Watch Rachel Reeve !
I can’t stand her but she’s a very clever, ruthless, determined woman!

Watch out Kier!!!

 

[Yid]

Watch Rachel Reeve !

Nah she's more wooden than a Victorian dildo mate...

Kier isn't ya "inspiration" guy, but his speech did everything I wanted it to do. It was preaching honesty and accountability, a key ingredient that was noticeable by it absence prior to them toking the helm.

Look we all know the old mob fucked everyone in favour of themselves and their rich pals, and we're all going to have to pay to redress the balance.

We can only tell how fucked we will be as individuals once the budget has been announced.

As for the pensioners... Look I don't want any pensioners to become icecubes, but they (the largest demographic of repeat Tory voters) kept voting the Tories (I know not all) in for 14 years and they fucked themselves and the rest of us in doing so... So while I have sympathy, it's fucking thin and reserved purely for those who didn't vote for them and for those who actually need the cash, because fucking loads really don't.

 

[DMackay]

 

[DMackay]

 

[DMackay]

Nah she's more wooden than a Victorian dildo mate...

Kier isn't ya "inspiration" guy, but his speech did everything I wanted it to do. It was preaching honesty and accountability, a key ingredient that was noticeable by it absence prior to them toking the helm.

Look we all know the old mob fucked everyone in favour of themselves and their rich pals, and we're all going to have to pay to redress the balance.

We can only tell how fucked we will be as individuals once the budget has been announced.

As for the pensioners... Look I don't want any pensioners to become icecubes, but they (the largest demographic of repeat Tory voters) kept voting the Tories (I know not all) in for 14 years and they fucked themselves and the rest of us in doing so... So while I have sympathy, it's fucking thin and reserved purely for those who didn't vote for them and for those who actually need the cash, because fucking loads really don't.

Just so you know where I stand

I was a Labour voter all my life until that war criminal Blair got in

Him and Bush should have been tried in The Hague

Never again no matter how bad the Tories were and they were bad last time!

Starmer is busy making a cunt of things and I didn’t expect anything less

So when Reeve or someone similar eventually ousts the nonce sympathiser I’ll remind you of your post

 

[Strikegold]

What a mess, and Starmer is a free loading gooner to boot. Who voted for him ? Well done !!

 

[DMackay]

Latest figure for his ‘donations’ is £106k which includes free rental on the luxury apartment of Lord Alli in Covent Garden for two months
Apparently worth £3 million so would command very high rent

He’s supposed to have been £30k in clothes, shoes and spectacles for him and his wife!

Free Taylor Swift tickets
Free hospitality box at the Emirates
All expenses family holiday in Ibiza

But he’s given back £6k so that’s ok

I see Rayner was given a ticket for the gig in Ibiza where she could join the DJ on stage which cost £860

I wonder what the likes of Rachel Reeve and Lammy have been given!

 

[Strikegold]

Latest figure for his ‘donations’ is £106k which includes free rental on the luxury apartment of Lord Alli in Covent Garden for two months
Apparently worth £3 million so would command very high rent

He’s supposed to have been £30k in clothes, shoes and spectacles for him and his wife!

Free Taylor Swift tickets
Free hospitality box at the Emirates
All expenses family holiday in Ibiza

But he’s given back £6k so that’s ok

I see Rayner was given a ticket for the gig in Ibiza where she could join the DJ on stage which cost £860

I wonder what the likes of Rachel Reeve and Lammy have been given!

Lamy was reported to have received around 30k plus in donations. But that needs checking.The fact he supports Spurs really grates on me, what a muppet.
Foreign Secretary....how embarrassing.
Rayner Deputy PM ?
Starmer PM
We are talking low calibre, voted in by idiots.

 

[Strikegold]

Reeves apparently has some knowledge in her field but it hasn't shown yet.

 

[DMackay]

Reeves apparently has some knowledge in her field but it hasn't shown yet.

As I said earlier she’s one to watch and I’ll give Starmer until next Spring at the latest

 

[Yid]

As I said earlier she’s one to watch and I’ll give Starmer until next Spring at the latest

You, as part of the electorate, have given him 5 years... Enjoy.

They haven't broken any rules. This is all stuff your Tory/Lib Dems/Brexit party friends have done, continue to do and the only reason we know about these things is because they have been reported. They've actually gone further than any government by stating they'll stopp recieving gifts, and review the rules.

Feel free to suckle the right wing medias teet and continue as a sheep in their army to keep you downtrodden and poor. That Daily Hail and Torygraph won't buy it's self...!

What is it 4 months in now and they haven't made it sunny every day and installed world peace... Give it a fucking rest you melts.

 

[DMackay]

I’m not downtrodden and far from being poor even if you are
So why don’t you give it a fucking rest ?

I will call this shower of shit out whenever I feel the need to do so as I used to do the Tories so fuck off with the Right Wing accusations!

If you don’t like hearing the truth then scroll on or put me on ignore like your big mate Dorset
I don’t give a fuck!

Amazed that you have the temerity to call anyone a melt!
Lmfao

 

[Yid]

I’m not downtrodden and far from being poor even if you are
So why don’t you give it a fucking rest ?

I will call this shower of shit out whenever I feel the need to do so as I used to do the Tories so fuck off with the Right Wing accusations!

If you don’t like hearing the truth then scroll on or put me on ignore like your big mate Dorset
I don’t give a fuck!

Amazed that you have the temerity to call anyone a melt!
Lmfao

Ok how does "you'll give Starmer to the spring" mean anything, when he has 5 years... Think about it...!

It's not truth, that's my whole fucking point you massive tuna fucking melt...!

If you don't want to be talked to like a cunt, then feel free to stopp parroting the bullshit right wing shit rags and their propaganda... When that happens and you read deeper than half a dozen lines of face book Tommy Robinson newsround special, we can maybe talk...

If I thought these cunts were taking the piss, trust me I would be all over them like a fucking rash... They ain't pal, they're doing what the rules allow them to do and have agreed that it's a bad look and will change it...

As for Dorset, who the fuck is that, never heard of the guy...?

 

[DMackay]

Ok how does "you'll give Starmer to the spring" mean anything, when he has 5 years... Think about it...!

It's not truth, that's my whole fucking point you massive tuna fucking melt...!

If you don't want to be talked to like a cunt, then feel free to stopp parroting the bullshit right wing shit rags and their propaganda... When that happens and you read deeper than half a dozen lines of face book Tommy Robinson newsround special, we can maybe talk...

If I thought these cunts were taking the piss, trust me I would be all over them like a fucking rash... They ain't pal, they're doing what the rules allow them to do and have agreed that it's a bad look and will change it...

As for Dorset, who the fuck is that, never heard of the guy...?

Proper ignorant twat aren’t you?

By giving Starmer until Spring I meant that his own Party probably led by Reeve will get rid of the incompetent cunt!

Is that simple enough for you?


“Massive tuna melt”

Lmfao

What are you?
12?

Grow up Sonny

Adults talking here!

You’ve made me laugh though

I’ll give you that

 

[Yid]

Proper ignorant twat aren’t you?

I'll focus on this bit and try to help shine a little light for you.

How much did we hear about donors and gifts under the last government? There was some outrageous stuff, but in the whole I'm reasonably confident to say not a lot. Almost none.

Why was that? We know now that Johnson claimed something like £6m+ in gifts and donations. We know now that the almost billionaire Sunak, used some other spives private jet and also coined a decent few quid (pocket change for him and in comparison to Bozo),yet at the time heard fuck all about it. Why was that...?

Because the media is in their pocket and a propaganda tool for the right. If you don't care to look into what and where you get your information from and why it's being pushed to you, they you are willfully ignorant and a tool of that right wing media. I refuse to be part of that machine and will challenge it.

You also may not have heard about it because schools were falling down, they were partying while we buried our dead, they were caught noncing the shit out of anything that had a pulse and siphoning your countries cash into their mates super yacht funds while fucking up every public service they could get their mitts on.

But let's focus on Labours gifts and donations now shall we...? It's all weak and bad intentioned non stories that wouldn't have got near the editors desk 6 months ago.

Politics in this country is under attack by the media. We need a free media to have a fair democracy and we don't have that right now as their rich owners have heir own agendas. The journalistic standard is fucking dead because of SM and the right have nothing to lose by machine gunning information into people's hands without and evidence if it suits their and their owners narrative...

I urge you to look at what and where your info comes from. Balance is key.

And I agree with you, if they're being cunts like the last ones, then yeah, they're even fucking worse and deserve the pile on, but not at the 4 months stage of a 5 year parliament, that's looking to undo the damage of what a corrupt and vicious government did over 14 years.

I'm an aggy, obnoxious opinionated cunt, but I am willing to bet deep down we both want the same shit.

Honesty and integrity and things to get better for us, our kids and our grandkids.

A return to the UK of being a respected partner of the world.

I'm 100% having a tuna melt for lunch now btw...!!!

 

[DMackay]

I'll focus on this bit and try to help shine a little light for you.

How much did we hear about donors and gifts under the last government? There was some outrageous stuff, but in the whole I'm reasonably confident to say not a lot. Almost none.

Why was that? We know now that Johnson claimed something like £6m+ in gifts and donations. We know now that the almost billionaire Sunak, used some other spives private jet and also coined a decent few quid (pocket change for him and in comparison to Bozo),yet at the time heard fuck all about it. Why was that...?

Because the media is in their pocket and a propaganda tool for the right. If you don't care to look into what and where you get your information from and why it's being pushed to you, they you are willfully ignorant and a tool of that right wing media. I refuse to be part of that machine and will challenge it.

You also may not have heard about it because schools were falling down, they were partying while we buried our dead, they were caught noncing the shit out of anything that had a pulse and siphoning your countries cash into their mates super yacht funds while fucking up every public service they could get their mitts on.

But let's focus on Labours gifts and donations now shall we...? It's all weak and bad intentioned non stories that wouldn't have got near the editors desk 6 months ago.

Politics in this country is under attack by the media. We need a free media to have a fair democracy and we don't have that right now as their rich owners have heir own agendas. The journalistic standard is fucking dead because of SM and the right have nothing to lose by machine gunning information into people's hands without and evidence if it suits their and their owners narrative...

I urge you to look at what and where your info comes from. Balance is key.

And I agree with you, if they're being cunts like the last ones, then yeah, they're even fucking worse and deserve the pile on, but not at the 4 months stage of a 5 year parliament, that's looking to undo the damage of what a corrupt and vicious government did over 14 years.

I'm an aggy, obnoxious opinionated cunt, but I am willing to bet deep down we both want the same shit.

Honesty and integrity and things to get better for us, our kids and our grandkids.

A return to the UK of being a respected partner of the world.

I'm 100% having a tuna melt for lunch now btw...!!!

I hope you enjoyed your tuna melt lunch

I had scrambled eggs and salmon on sourdough toast!
Can’t beat it

Right in case you missed something I posted on here a while back my politics go just to the right of centre

In
My late teens in the early 70s I joined the Labour Party and became a fundraiser and activist which continued through Thatcher until we became aware of what Tony Blair was and stood for!
Never again and even more so now as we’re far away from being a Traditional Labour Party
More Tory Lite!
I still have friends that are activists and they can’t stand him and I can see why!

I don’t actually know how old you are but as im 70 I would imagine that I was going down to the Lane and voting Labour before you were born.

The last government was a disaster and we should have had a GE when Boris went

Their noses were in the trough probably as much this lot are but that doesn’t make it right!

They should be brought to account and I will continue to call them out as I did the Tories on other forums


I came on this Forum basically to talk Spurs and have a laugh sharing inappropriate jokes and memes and I do the same on a couple of others.

You call yourself an aggressive opinionated cunt
Fair enough and I can hold my own on that score but I prefer to be discussing last night’s good win rather than Starmer’s £32k on clothes which is a laugh in itself as he still looks like a bag of shit similar to Boris!

Yes I want the UK to be a respected player in the world too but do you really see that happening with Starmer?

When he rang Trump recently I would imagine Donald saying to his aides ‘who the fuck is this?’

Have a good day

 

[Dave]

Ah cmon, dont go, I was starting to get settled here!!!

 

[DMackay]

Try reading a book

 

[Dave]

Nah, prefer a joke...ahem...

Chicken and frog walk into a library, the chicken looks up at the shelves and goes.."BOOK...BOOKBOOK,BOOOOK, BOOK"...the frog looks up and says " READIT,READIT,READIT"...

I'm here all week...

 

[DMackay]

Nah, prefer a joke...ahem...

Chicken and frog walk into a library, the chicken looks up at the shelves and goes.."BOOK...BOOKBOOK,BOOOOK, BOOK"...the frog looks up and says " READIT,READIT,READIT"...

I'm here all week...

How would this place manage without you?

 

[spurious]

Nah, prefer a joke...ahem...

Chicken and frog walk into a library, the chicken looks up at the shelves and goes.."BOOK...BOOKBOOK,BOOOOK, BOOK"...the frog looks up and says " READIT,READIT,READIT"...

I'm here all week...

Just sent this to my (12-yr-old) son. Now he'll have reason to think I'm a knob too.

 

[DMackay]

Just sent this to my (12-yr-old) son. Now he'll have reason to think I'm a knob too.

My son is 26 and if I sent that to him im sure that he would try to persuade me to give him Power of Attorney!

 

[Dave]

My son is 26 and if I sent that to him im sure that he would try to persuade me to give him Power of Attorney!

Well my 11 year old told me so my suggestion is to lighten up lad....now...continue on.

 

[Yid]

I had scrambled eggs and salmon on sourdough toast!
Can’t beat it

Yes I want the UK to be a respected player in the world too but do you really see that happening with Starmer?

Sourdough... Fucking Tory...!!!

What is the other option if, because you've happened to live on this planet more years than I have, you're so convinced that Starmer can't do a better job than the last bunch of cunts...?

You're not a Farage funder are you... You don't follow old turtle head do you...? Stop the boats, save my winter fuel payments, don't tell them your name pike...!

This thread was started by your pal, the arch messer, the destroyer of forums, the depthless clunge of a statisticians sleeve... As a meer tool to wind up these woke lefty liberal lightweights who maybe voted for the current government... So excuuuuuuuse me if I happen to have entered into "debate"...!

Look, I have to thank you because I've not in all my years on this planet have I ever had the opportunity to ever actually use the phrase in the context it is meant to be used... OK BOOMER...!!!

 

[spurious]

Well my 11 year old told me so my suggestion is to lighten up lad....now...continue on.

Update: I got a "Ha" in response. No punctuation, but no emojis either.

 

[Ted the Yid]

I have been avoiding this thread because when I saw the title, it just seemed a bit weirdo that someone would post such a thing on a football forum. Normally in these circumstances I would do what any normal bloke would do and go down the pub and sit it out until the coast was clear, but clearly these are modern times and it seems you fellas want to discuss this subject.

Can't be arsed to write something myself so I copied and pasted this from another forum.

Lamenting Labour

I suspect my severe pain was beyond the "normal" as it ended in forceps and apparently baby's head was in a difficult position, but it makes me wonder to what degree my pain was beyond what people experience. My contractions started at 9pm and were every 3 minutes within an hour, and already very painful. By 7am I was only 4cm and had been unable to sit down all night as every contraction I needed to stand as any other position was agony. I had an epidural as I was so tired by that point and knew there were hours ahead. By mid afternoon I had the most horrendous pain/pressure in my bum with every contraction, and the epidural did not help it. I was 10cm at 5pm and after an hour and a half of pushing I ended up screaming at everyone in the room to help me because I felt like my insides were going to explode out of me with the most severe pressure/sharp pain. When the midwife examined me I could tell the head was still far back as she could reach her fingers far inside and I was nowhere near crowning. I ended up screaming for help because I felt no one appreciated how bad it was and ended up with a spinal block and forceps delivery. I know childbirth is meant to be painful but I can't understand how bad it was even with an epidural (which did work to some extent whilst contracting earlier but not lower down in my bum). I'm not sure how I would ever prepare myself for another labour in the future if we have more children. Did anyone else have anything similar? I don't think it would have been physically possible for me to continue and give birth but I still feel a bit of a failure