Levelling up?

[Dorset]

What a pile of shit football has become. Harry Kane wants to go to a team with a chance of winning the Champions League - Manchester City. But why are they so much better than us? Because they have a net spend so far in the 5 year period from the 2017-18 season over half a fucking billion pounds and they spend over £140 fucking million on wages every year That is fucking insane and all the bollocks the FA, FIFA and EUFA spout about Financial Fair Play is just words floating in the air. The Premier League is becoming like the Spanish League, there will be a couple of super-clubs and a load of mediocre teams, so the Super League will in reality be in place without it actually being called the Super League.

Harry fucking kane is not happy with his £10,000,000 a year - for kicking a fucking ball about , and he wants the £15m Grealish gets or the £20m DeBruyne gets. Most people do not earn £10m in their lifetime, in fact if you were earning a good salary of £50k it would take 5, 40 year working lifetimes to earn what he earns in one fucking year and the greedy cunt wants more? Of course I don't blame Kane or even want to single him out, it is a cancer that is destroying the beautiful game. The teams spending the most on transfers and wages will always get the best players and the rest will get fucked up the backdoor.

Sport in general is becoming about money - how the fuck can professional golfers, tennis players, boxers etc. be allowed to compete in the Olympics against dedicated amateurs? Why not take a professional jockey and a top racehorse to compete in school donkey derbies?

I want fair competition, I love football, but I don't want to watch demonstration footy with one side totally dominating the game, what is the fucking point of that? Levelling Up? Yeah, just like that cunt Johnson wants, the levelling up only applies to those already at the top.

 

[ClemFandango]

I'm old enough to remember Blackburn being accused of "buying the league" when they won the title in 1994. As far as football is concerned, I still think you need a manager to make it work regardless of who you buy but I certainly understand that that's not the overall point of the thread.

Look at F1. I'm not particularly a huge fan of the sport now, largely because I think Hamilton is a cunt, but Mercedes are a prime example of one team that has more money than the rest of them and how they can invest millions into a car that goes on to dominate the sport for years.

But when you look back at the 80's and early 90's, it was far more even and, equally, far more entertaining. I remember watching one race where Jenson Button literally threw his car round the track to win a race and I was absolutely glued to the TV.

But then who's going to change it ?. Fucked if i know. It's going to take a sporting governing body to stand up and say "Ok, this has to stop" and with the amount of money flying around some of these sports, I doubt any of them will actually have the balls to say that because they'll likely get sued by the ones with all the money.

I think making changings to football itself would be incredibly difficult due to the nature of the game and the financial disparity between clubs - and that's not just between the likes of a Manchester City and, say, Southampton.

It could be between a club like, say, Millwall in the Championship and Rochdale in League Two. The turnover of a championship side is still going to far outweigh that of a League Two side so trying to even things up across the board would be ridiculously hard IMO.

But the TL-DR of that is that I tend to agree that there's too much money in sport. I watched a lot of sport when it was far more even and more competitive but with the amount of money that came in to the game, it killed that competitiveness pretty quickly.

 

[Dave]

What a pile of shit football has become. Harry Kane wants to go to a team with a chance of winning the Champions League - Manchester City. But why are they so much better than us? Because they have a net spend so far in the 5 year period from the 2017-18 season over half a fucking billion pounds and they spend over £140 fucking million on wages every year That is fucking insane and all the bollocks the FA, FIFA and EUFA spout about Financial Fair Play is just words floating in the air. The Premier League is becoming like the Spanish League, there will be a couple of super-clubs and a load of mediocre teams, so the Super League will in reality be in place without it actually being called the Super League.

Harry fucking kane is not happy with his £10,000,000 a year - for kicking a fucking ball about , and he wants the £15m Grealish gets or the £20m DeBruyne gets. Most people do not earn £10m in their lifetime, in fact if you were earning a good salary of £50k it would take 5, 40 year working lifetimes to earn what he earns in one fucking year and the greedy cunt wants more? Of course I don't blame Kane or even want to single him out, it is a cancer that is destroying the beautiful game. The teams spending the most on transfers and wages will always get the best players and the rest will get fucked up the backdoor.

Sport in general is becoming about money - how the fuck can professional golfers, tennis players, boxers etc. be allowed to compete in the Olympics against dedicated amateurs? Why not take a professional jockey and a top racehorse to compete in school donkey derbies?

I want fair competition, I love football, but I don't want to watch demonstration footy with one side totally dominating the game, what is the fucking point of that? Levelling Up? Yeah, just like that cunt Johnson wants, the levelling up only applies to those already at the top.

The day Sky came in around 92, fair competition was never going to be the same. The influx of overseas players and managers, sponsorships, sky's global coverage reaching the tv's of football loving trillionaires with nothing to do.
Unless there is a worldwide salary cap, and a very strict governing watchdog to accompany it, the wealthy will get the trophies and wealthier and the rest will merely make up the numbers..
Wouldn't it be fantastic if the best players in the world had a max salary of £100,000 a year and could only make that again on income like sponsorships outside of club salary ? Where if Mbappe wanted away from PSG that even Charlton Athletic would have a chance....In other words the club he signed for would be the club that he really wanted to play for, not the club with biggest bank balance.

Unfortunately, the first thing that'll happen after I think of something like this, is my alarm clock will go off...

 

[ClemFandango]

If you want a snapshot of how much money there still is in football, apparently PSG have covered the entirity of Messi's contract in around 24 hours through shirt sales alone.

 

[Style And Glory]

If you want a snapshot of how much money there still is in football, apparently PSG have covered the entirity of Messi's contract in around 24 hours through shirt sales alone.

If true, that's incredible.

 

[NiceOneCyril]

I work that out to be about 750,000 shirts (€50m salary/€135 per shirt*50% profit margin) in a day. Greta Thunberg will not be happy.

 

[Yid]

So

Mbape, Neymar, Messi

Fuck my old boots...

 

[ClemFandango]

If true, that's incredible.

It seems I was a little hasty as the claim apparently only came from a particular tweet. This article says it isn't possible and that they'd have to sell around 12 million shirts over the course of his contract to even get close.

They do say that if he plays for PSG for the full three years that he'll earn £85m after tax, which amounts to around £544k a week, so he's "only" dropped his salary at Barcelone by around £100k as week.

Why PSG won’t make their money back on Lionel Messi in shirt sales alone

PSG would need to sell at least 12 million shirts to recoup the money spent on Messi's wages over the course of three seasons

inews.co.uk

 

[Dave]

So

Mbape, Neymar, Messi

Fuck my old boots...

That front 3 is Fantasy stuff! Flip side for Poch though It's The league and Champions League or he'll be considered a spectacular failure.

Th

 

[Yid]

That front 3 is Fantasy stuff! Flip side for Poch though It's The league and Champions League or he'll be considered a spectacular failure.

Th

Want Poch to succeed.... but also live in hope that Levy fucks off and he comes home to funish his work.

And Jenifer Lawrence is FIIIIITTTT...!!!

 

[Nundy]

Blame sky for inflation, finish 17th or get promoted from the championships, the money rewarded let alone could of bought you Ronaldo, Zidane and Figo once upon a time.

a bit before my time but I heard even the SPL was just as competitive in regards to the quality of football prior sky pumping into English footie. Regarding the billionaires taking over city, watch this space, one day,we will be in a similar place in my opinion. Enic will sell in the future, all the foundations are set, a buyer will just wait a few years for the debt on the stadium to reduce and then something will happen. just the way football goes eventually,

 

[Yid]

The stadium will pay its own way... now is the time to buy IMO... while the stadium is shiny and the side has assets... a small investment in the playing staff of a few hundred million would pay long term dividends....

If we all club together...

 

[Nundy]

The stadium will pay its own way... now is the time to buy IMO... while the stadium is shiny and the side has assets... a small investment in the playing staff of a few hundred million would pay long term dividends....

If we all club together...

It should pay for itself, but depending on how well we perform in the league and cups (European),will determine how long it takes.

Your right, a small investment in playing staff will increase those chances and help progress the club.

However, if we don't invest and hit a slippery slope of being a conference league team or potentially worse over the next 2-4 years. Financially the stadium could start halting our progression as a club, then levy/Enic would need to look to sell. However as a buyer, I would imagine, you would still want to see a fair amount already paid off before investing. Like I said, one day I can see us being bought out by a billionaire like City, we have all the assets, but whether they would rather spend £300mill on investing in player and take over a £500mill debt to the stadium compared to investing £300mill on players and take over a £750mill debt to the stadium because we finish 11th in the league as levy doesn't open the wallet, who knows.

 

[Yid]

If I was an investor I'd look for an asset I could develop, not a ready made project like Spurs.

Think Palace or Foolham... a London side in a shit ground with shit infrastructure. Buy the risk and evelop it out for profit. Bit like flipping houses.

Spend the money to develop those and you'd be way more quids in I reckon... you'd then have more revenue to make the team better organically and with a bit of luck and few extra sheckles.... you may just do well.

But as I have fuck all, I'll shut up now.

 

[Don Diaz]

That front 3 is Fantasy stuff! Flip side for Poch though It's The league and Champions League or he'll be considered a spectacular failure.

Th

Why isn't Pep Guardiola considered a spectacular failure........I think he's massively underachieved at both Bayern and City. Relatively speaking.

 

[NiceOneCyril]

As we know only too well, you only need one shit game not to win the Champions League, but if he doesn't do it this year, the baked bean is toast.