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J.spurs

J.spurs

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Why depressing?

Extra revenue for the club and will provide the local community with something to do and perhaps provide opportunities to people.
Fair enough, its harmless I suppose. But with each passing day it seems a little less about the football.
 
Havocc

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True, but Tottenham should be bigger than the football. It should be about the community and the people in the area. This, and the university offer so much for an area which is quite a deprived area.
 
Havocc

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There's proof that the extra revenue won't be invested into the playing squad.

Our wages to revenue ratio is the lowest in the league
if you read the full financials, there Is proof that it is. Why do you think we got the ENIC investment this season, because of the revenue the stadium generates through ALL of the events it puts back on. Once we get rid of all these players we own who are on loan, we will more of an investment
 
J.spurs

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True, but Tottenham should be bigger than the football. It should be about the community and the people in the area. This, and the university offer so much for an area which is quite a deprived area.
Fair enough, I'll definitely admit that my response to things like this is usually along these lines:
 
J

jd2023

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if you read the full financials, there Is proof that it is. Why do you think we got the ENIC investment this season, because of the revenue the stadium generates through ALL of the events it puts back on. Once we get rid of all these players we own who are on loan, we will more of an investment
We have had many years to improve our wages to revenue ratio yet have been bottom of the league for about 13 seasons running. That includes paying players wages not at the club we are dead last!

This isn't about putting in 150m for signings. It about having a wage budget that can compete with our peers. If we were pegged to our rivals we'd be able to offer an extra 60m a season in wages. Which means we can go in for better players rather than go unopposed for the likes of Lo Celso and Sanchez.
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

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True, but Tottenham should be bigger than the football. It should be about the community and the people in the area. This, and the university offer so much for an area which is quite a deprived area.

How are people in the local community going to be able to afford karting at the stadium? It will be prohibitively expensive and it’s not as though the tourists that show up for it are likely to spend big in the local area.

What am I missing?
 
Havocc

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How are people in the local community going to be able to afford karting at the stadium? It will be prohibitively expensive and it’s not as though the tourists that show up for it are likely to spend big in the local area.

What am I missing?
Like all the other stadium events, amenities and attractions, local schools and communities will be given free/cheap access. Plus the jobs it will create and opportunities.

Tourists will also attend. Quote from the press release:

It adds to the growing range of Visitor Attractions already available at London’s newest sports and entertainment destination, including the popular Dare Skywalk - rated as London’s No.1 outdoor attraction on TripAdvisor - driving visitors to the area 365 days a year and providing an estimated £300m a year boost to the local economy in one of London’s most deprived neighbourhoods.

So it appears as if you are missing quite a bit! 😂😂
 
Havocc

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We have had many years to improve our wages to revenue ratio yet have been bottom of the league for about 13 seasons running. That includes paying players wages not at the club we are dead last!

This isn't about putting in 150m for signings. It about having a wage budget that can compete with our peers. If we were pegged to our rivals we'd be able to offer an extra 60m a season in wages. Which means we can go in for better players rather than go unopposed for the likes of Lo Celso and Sanchez.
We are 5th in the wage bill table, so not bottom. Have been top 10 for a while


Also, wage bills does not guarantee success or better players. For every Lo Celso and Sanchez, there is Son, Romero and Bentancor.

Please also remember, our wage bill was restricted by having a 35k capacity stadium, now we are bigger, you can see the individual wages of existing and new signings being raise towards that £150-200k a week

 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

The Aussie Yid
Like all the other stadium events, amenities and attractions, local schools and communities will be given free/cheap access. Plus the jobs it will create and opportunities.

Tourists will also attend. Quote from the press release:

It adds to the growing range of Visitor Attractions already available at London’s newest sports and entertainment destination, including the popular Dare Skywalk - rated as London’s No.1 outdoor attraction on TripAdvisor - driving visitors to the area 365 days a year and providing an estimated £300m a year boost to the local economy in one of London’s most deprived neighbourhoods.

So it appears as if you are missing quite a bit! 😂😂

Well fair enough then.👍
 
J

jd2023

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We are 5th in the wage bill table, so not bottom. Have been top 10 for a while


Also, wage bills does not guarantee success or better players. For every Lo Celso and Sanchez, there is Son, Romero and Bentancor.

Please also remember, our wage bill was restricted by having a 35k capacity stadium, now we are bigger, you can see the individual wages of existing and new signings being raise towards that £150-200k a week

I'm talking as a percentage of revenue. We are 20th
 
Nundy

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What happened to the google naming rights deal mentioned prior Christmas. Another deal which went dead I assume
 
NiceOneCyril

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Tbh I’m fine with the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. The money for naming rights should go straight into Joe and Dan’s pocket anyway, so might as well have the team name attached to what is a pretty impressive piece of architecture.
 
Glenjamin

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Anyone done the Sky Walk? Having a go in April here just wondering if it's any use.
 
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Hurrikane Harold

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Going to host two rugby finals in 2024. With the prospect of no European money next season, going to need to raise extra income elsewhere.
FFP might be a problem by 2025, if our recruitment strategy continues to land us with expensive flops
 
Havocc

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Just filling out the survey on atmosphere in stadium

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USspur

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Public parks across London and beyond are being put at risk by a high court judgment in favour of Enfield council leasing a rewilded golf course to Tottenham Hotspur for a football academy, campaigners say.

The court has ruled that Enfield council is allowed to hand over more than half of the 97-hectare (240-acre) Whitewebbs Park to Spurs, which has submitted plans to the council to build a new women’s and girls’ academy on the green belt site.


Mr Justice Mould dismissed campaigners, led by local resident Sean Wilkinson, who argued that the council was bound by a statutory duty to ensure the wildlife-rich former council golf course remained open to the wider public for recreation.

The campaigners have vowed to appeal against the verdict and continue to fight plans to fence off and build on a swath of the park, which was sold to the council to benefit the people of the borough nearly a century ago. Since the public golf course closed in 2021, Whitewebbs has been widely used by local people and wildlife including 80 species of bird and at least nine species of bat, as well as great-crested newts and badgers.

Wilkinson, a retired teacher, said: “It would be dreadful if that verdict stood, not just for Whitewebbs but practically any open space in the London area and beyond. We’re seeing a revitalisation of the enclosure movement by big corporations and this is going to permit land-grabs by other sporting clubs and businesses.

“There’s no difference between this kind of industrial sporting facility and a low-level factory development. Spurs want to create a fortified encampment in the park. We’re definitely going to fight this.”

Campaigners are seeking the judge’s permission to appeal against the verdict. The campaigners’ solicitor, Harriet Child of the Public Interest Law Centre, said: “If this can happen to Whitewebbs Park, it can happen anywhere. It can happen to your local park, playground or playing field.

“Public trust land was one of the great and radical advances to come out of the public backlash against development encroaching on people’s ability to access open space. It’s terribly sad that we’ve lost sight of that as a society.

“This judgment shows a willingness to sell land to private companies that people fought so hard to protect for the public nearly 100 years ago.”

Enfield council is handing Spurs a 25-year lease to the land for £2m. Campaigner Ed Allnutt added: “The works that will be carried out are irreversible and damaging. It’s not just people who use the park – it’s home to reptiles, badgers, and habitat priority listed birds. It is adjacent to the beaver habitat at Forty Hall. This is a huge construction project that will permanently change a beautiful, biodiverse landscape. The enclosure will largely benefit a huge private enterprise, Tottenham Hotspur, that is owned offshore, for an elite academy. It will be a permanent loss to the community and nature.”


In his written verdict, Mould concluded that the proposed training facility was “not confined to commercial football training” and would “foster a large element of community access and support women’s and girls’ football locally”.

Alice Roberts, the head of campaigns at CPRE London, an environmental charity, called on Spurs to withdraw its planning application for Whitewebbs and develop the facilities on another site.

“We are enormously disappointed that a wealthy football club like Tottenham Hotspur feels it appropriate to take over a public park when they can well afford to purchase land elsewhere,” she said.

“We strongly support provision for women’s football, but this is a wealthy, professional football club which has plenty of resources to buy land which is not public park land.”

Roberts added: “I’m staggered that it’s possible for a council to sell a park to a very wealthy organisation with impunity.”

When QPR sought to build a new training ground on public playing fields at Warren Farm in west London, a public outcry led to the football club eventually backing down. Warren Farm will instead become a publicly accessible nature reserve.

Spurs’ plans for Whitewebbs, which will be considered by Enfield’s planning committee and are open to public comments until the end of the month, involve the club developing and managing 53 hectares of the park. A portion of this will be fenced off for the women’s academy, including indoor facilities and all-weather pitches, as well as a sports turf academy, surrounded by new tree-planting.

An Enfield council spokesperson said: “Enfield council welcomes this judgment confirming that due process was followed at all times leading up to the decision to enter into the agreement for lease. The lease of part of Whitewebbs Park is set to bring significant benefits to the local community including the protection and enhancement of the park and woods, further investment in a new on-site cafe, toilets and other facilities as well as preserving open public access to over 80% of the park for all residents.”

Spurs declined to comment.
 
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