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spurious

spurious

Player in Training.
So, there's this: https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...premier-league-club-portfolio-minority-stakes
I am
-actively hoping it doesn't happen (this accomplishes fuck-all, but makes me feel all tingly and righteous)
-telling everyone it shouldn't happen (see above)
-questioning myself and looking for some kind of conscience-assuaging dodge like saying I won't buy shit but keep supporting the club, maybe secretly (still won't accomplish anything, but might cost me some comfort)

What say you all? I reckon there are those among us who would welcome this, and many for whom this could be worse than our wingback options. Discuss.
 
USspur

USspur

Player in Training.
From a human point of view: Fuck'em, tell them to go buy some other club who is willing to sell their souls to the devil. I don't want any part of their sport-washing.

From a sporting perspective: will they give us money to spend on players? Loosen the purse strings? Love that, if true.

Tough spot we are in
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
From a human point of view: Fuck'em, tell them to go buy some other club who is willing to sell their souls to the devil. I don't want any part of their sport-washing.

From a sporting perspective: will they give us money to spend on players? Loosen the purse strings? Love that, if true.

Tough spot we are in
Do fucking what? Fuck buying players and 'loving that,? If this happens then that's me finished, my financial contribution is small, subs to DAZN which is really just to watch our games, that ends and so sadly would my involvement here, the only thing I would have to say is fuck those cunts and anyone who supports them - that would be dull so I would toddle off.
 
Yid

Yid

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
How can anyone consciously support the sports washing of a regime that openly oppresses peoples human rights.

How will gay supporters feel after what they've just witnessed in Qutar?

Can you walk away from something you love...? People in abusive relationships find the strength... Maybe that's the real question that has to be asked...?

These cunts are about the only ones who can afford to buy the club including its debts... and technically they're not buying it, they're becoming an minority stakeholder.

This on the face of it is a no brainer... they can go fuck themselves in the desert... but there are a few buts...
 
Havocc

Havocc

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
I thought it was interesting the supporters club asked 4 questions, and the club confirmed they will answer these questions at the end of the transfer window due to commercial reasons.

Perhaps one of these reason is this partial sale to the Qatari investment fund. Although not full ownership, I still feel uncomfortable with the whole thing.

We all have our love/hate affair with Levy and ENIC. There failures are well known, especially not backing managers when the time was right. But I like the fact that as a club have competed on the pitch with bigger teams with More financial clout, and the delivery of our new home which is phenomenal place to watch matches.

I would hope, the FA step in and prevent these kind of investments, but it is too late for that now, especially with City and Newcastle already owned by these people. If it is not us, it could be West Ham…….

If it happened, not sure I would walk away from watching/supporting the club. I still subscribe to Disney+, use technology and wear clothes provided by companies with questionable ethics. Hell, I work in big pharma which has a torrid history. Walking away from the club would feel a bit like virtue signalling (no accusation anyone here is quilty of that) without actually doing more about it.

Why should outside influences and decisions prevent me from doing what I love to do. Hell, if we listened to everything bad in the world we would not fly, drive cars, eat meat, eat veg, talk to the opposite sex etc.

Perhaps I am too much ‘ignorance is bliss’ and if it doesn’t impact me directly, then why the fuck should I care. Perhaps I do care, but I am to selfish to do anything about it. Perhaps I need to find out more about it…..

Anyway, I think I will truly know when it actually happens, then I can have a good think about it.
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

Zero tolerance of Numpty's
Founding Member
I think it's simple. ENIC are greedy and have few morals when it comes to business. If Levy thinks he can get a £1bn for 20% and it will make him look good, pay some debt and buy a couples I would imagine he might do it. The fan base would likely be split and that will buy a lot of them off.

Personally I'm out, way out, a long long way out. I want Levy out too, this doesn't achieve that, neither does it achieve anything that the club and long time supporters have been connected with, we'd just be another Chelsea or Man City light, disrespect our Jewish connections, and our soul, maybe that disappeared a long time ago? Worst of all and I realise that this is naive, I hate the thought that in modern day football wealthy individuals, corporations and sovereign wealth funds can just go and buy a new toy to play with and compete with other like minded owners, especially one with such an appalling record on human rights.

If this has to happen at Spurs and one day sooner rather than later it will, I'd prefer a non corrupt US sports related investment, assuming one exists, that also removes Levy from any footballing related aspect at the club.
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
Qatar is so fucking bad that even Saudi fucking Arabia has severed diplomatic relations with them for funding terrorism. Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates and the good old US of A have all accused the Qataris of funding nutcase terrorist organisations, while Brexitanian UK has deepened their ties, set up joint UK/Qatar air force squadrons and sold them billions of pounds worth of weapons.

Ooooh, those nice Qataris did such a lovely world cup and it looked so pretty on the telly, David Beckham says it's a wonderful place.
 
BrooklynYid

BrooklynYid

Player in Training.
I am gonna have to go with a big fat no. Would rather the dark lord Levy than all this oil money. I do, however, understand that the club does need to do something. They could always reach into their own pockets, but we know that will never happen.
 
J.spurs

J.spurs

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
I don't think it will happen. If it does--not trying to be self-righteous, it's just that there is no way my heart would be in it anymore.

Are there countless other awful people involved in football ownership? Yes.

Do I regularly encounter, and do business with, nasty corporations and individual people who believe evil or just plain stupid shit? Yes.

Does my own country need to take a long, hard look at its record on human rights, past and present? Fuck yes.

But there are lines, and no way I could see myself feeling the same way about the club if this happened. I wouldn't ever judge lifelong supporters who feel differently. But I'm already more than a little queasy about the state of the global game and questioning my tiny role in helping make it that way.
 
NiceOneCyril

NiceOneCyril

Player in Training.
Like @Havocc I'm just not sure how hypocritical I am prepared to be. I talk a good progressive political game, but could I just stop watching?
 
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