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Sat : 30th : Sept : 2023 : 17:30 : Home : SPURS V LIVERPOOL

What will the result be...?

  • Win

    Votes: 3 75.0%
  • Loose

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    4
Style And Glory

Style And Glory

On My High Trojan Horse
Founding Member
Here’s a weird stat to wrap your head around.

After the first seven games last season under Conte, we had the same number of points that we do now and we’d scored one more goal.

I know which manager I’d rather have though.
I'm surprised by that stat.
Then again, I've blocked out the last few Spurs years
 
J.spurs

J.spurs

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
I can understand their sendings off were unfortunate. In other words, if Romero goes over the top of the ball, by accident, after kicking the ball, without excessive force, I'd prefer a yellow, and intent and outcome to be part of the laws of the game, and no slow motion VAR for the referee to see. That's just basic as a player of the game. However, I can also understand why, as a Spurs fan who got given the Sissoko handball in the CL final, it is swings and roundabouts. In other words, the laws of the game are fucked for everyone regarding clearly unintentional mistakes.

On top of that, yes, we have had decisions go against us, and Liverpool have had decisions go for them, in past games over the past year or so. That said, if you are officiating in the UAE for a fuckload of money, come back late and give a non-sober decision or two that favours Man City in the title race, you are going to be scrutinised, and probably rightly so. I also remember when an official elbowed Robertson in the face and got nothing.

I don't really find corrupt, or overly incompetent officials to be funny, whether it is for us or not. I don't like victim shaming more than I don't like victim playing.

If I'm taking some schadenfreude in the whole thing I'm not any better than them.

I'm glad we won.
Victim shaming? FFS, We're laughing about the result of a football match aren't we? Important enough to spend a lot of time thinking about it, but not exactly life and death.

As for the rest of it, I'm convinced that VAR is fucked because it's created unrealistic expectations. It's put match officials under more, not less pressure. If we're saying refs shouldn't be looking at these incidents over and over in slow motion--and I agree--then that's that. More harm than good.

And sorry, but schadenfreude is delicious.
 
ClemFandango

ClemFandango

Lord High Chief of the Privvy
Founding Member
PGMOL have apparently now agreed to release the audio from the VAR room to Liverpool and then to the public.

This pearl clutching and sudden concern for “integrity” is getting rather nauseating.
 
J.spurs

J.spurs

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
PGMOL have apparently now agreed to release the audio from the VAR room to Liverpool and then to the public.

This pearl clutching and sudden concern for “integrity” is getting rather nauseating.
If they do, they're going to have to do it every week, which means exponentially more VAR debate. Which might not be a bad thing, but fuck me it's tedious.
 
USspur

USspur

Player in Training.
Does it suck that it happened? Yes, for them.

But, fuck the dippers. If the shoe was on the other foot they wouldn't give a flying fuck. And I don't either.
 
Yid

Yid

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
Lads, I enjoyed a phenomenal football match... yes I have the position of being the recipient of the spoils, but for the neutral... what a game full of drama and culminating in a phenomenal ending...

NO ONE IS TAKING ABOUT THE GAME...

This is why VAR is a plague... It 100% detracts from the football.

In the bad old days if am official fucked up... he got called a wanker by the fans for 10 mins and then we all went to the pub and called him a wanker a bit more...

Next week it was all forgotten, until another human error happened and then someone else was called a wanker for 48 hours...

I preferred it... it was natural, it was organic, it was accepted as part of the game...
 
BrooklynYid

BrooklynYid

Player in Training.
Don't know what they're upset with VAR about, they got the call CORRECT. It was the linesman who was wrong. Which only makes the whole thing so amazingly more hilarious!
 
HighValueMan

HighValueMan

Player in Training.
Victim shaming? FFS, We're laughing about the result of a football match aren't we? Important enough to spend a lot of time thinking about it, but not exactly life and death.

As for the rest of it, I'm convinced that VAR is fucked because it's created unrealistic expectations. It's put match officials under more, not less pressure. If we're saying refs shouldn't be looking at these incidents over and over in slow motion--and I agree--then that's that. More harm than good.

And sorry, but schadenfreude is delicious.
I hope some people are just laughing about the result of a football match. I'm not certain that is what it is about all of the time. There are certain things I resent about Liverpool that go beyond football. There are certain things I resent about the counter anti-Liverpool rhetoric. With regards to officials, okay they got decisions and reviews wrong, but it is the same with the police. As for schadenfreude, it's a problem if for example a clinical psychologist in the NHS has it towards their mental patient. And as for analysing football, apparently people do it because it resembles analysing tribal tactics with regards to ancient militaries, so it is one of those weird primal pseudo needs a human has.
 
ClemFandango

ClemFandango

Lord High Chief of the Privvy
Founding Member
This is the audio. It's a rather comical fuck up, but it's still a fuck up and it certainly doesn't warrant the game being replayed. This really should be the end of it.

 
HighValueMan

HighValueMan

Player in Training.
This is the audio. It's a rather comical fuck up, but it's still a fuck up and it certainly doesn't warrant the game being replayed. This really should be the end of it.

So no one actually knew or communicated what was going on.

"Are you happy with this image?"
"Yes"

No mention of onside or offside, or what the onfield decision was.
 
ClemFandango

ClemFandango

Lord High Chief of the Privvy
Founding Member
But of course it won't. The Liverpudlians and allied industries (Gary Neville) will be all over this like the Zapruder tapes.
TalkSport are leading the charge to get the game replayed

But then you know if that happened and we won, they’d still be whining saying they should have won the original game.
 
USspur

USspur

Player in Training.
The video is hard to watch to be fair.

The moment the guy knows he fucked it you can feel the air leave the room, soul leaves his body, whatever you want to call it.

But... We won so fuck it
 
Yid

Yid

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
That is hilarious...

It's a mistake... crossed wires, you can see how it has happened... the bleeps make it for me... they realised and explored the options and that as the game has gone on, they've just gor to roll with it
 
J.spurs

J.spurs

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
That is hilarious...

It's a mistake... crossed wires, you can see how it has happened... the bleeps make it for me... they realised and explored the options and that as the game has gone on, they've just gor to roll with it
Yeah I LOLed when I heard it. Everybody’s talking so fast confusion was inevitable. I’m not a rugby fan and know nothing about it but apparently the video replay protocol there has very clear language they have to use when the communicate? I bet that happens with football but IMO any changes to VAR are an exercise in turd polishing.
 
Yid

Yid

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
Yeah I LOLed when I heard it. Everybody’s talking so fast confusion was inevitable. I’m not a rugby fan and know nothing about it but apparently the video replay protocol there has very clear language they have to use when the communicate? I bet that happens with football but IMO any changes to VAR are an exercise in turd polishing.
Mate I 100% agree... the way people are going on about VAR is is if the game would be fucking amateur without it...

The Premier League became one of the biggest global brands without the fucking thing and if anything its now being damaged by the implementation of it...!!!

Apparently they had the option of installing hawkeye technology I've the summer in all Prem grounds... Clubs voted against it on the grounds the technology would become dated too quickly and be costly and dificult to implement in all grounds in the Championship and even harder lower down...
 
HighValueMan

HighValueMan

Player in Training.
I never really understood why they didn't just do offside based on an RFID type chip in the boot of the players and the ball ten-fifteen years ago. Takes subjectivity out of the decision, like goal-line technology.

As for VAR, they just need to ask a better question that clarifies the situation and confirm a better outcome.

Question being, "is this image offside - no goal?"
Answer being, "no. It's onside - goal."

If you fuck that up you need sacked.

Edit: Update: Klopp wants the game replayed, but doesn't want any other game replayed where Liverpool benefited. It's a bit of a joke because really you would have to replay the game 1-0 up in the 34th minute with 10 men anyway.
 
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Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
Maybe VAR should go back through all the penalties Salah has 'won'. Perhaps they should look again at the violent assault on Skipp and issue a retrospective 3 match (longer probably) ban?
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They are just whingeing tossers, always have been, always will be.
 
HighValueMan

HighValueMan

Player in Training.
Lads, we just need to give them the full replay, and I'll trust they'll replay the CL final. Sorted.
 
H

Hurrikane Harold

Player in Training.
No chance of a replay, and probably Liverpool wont be stupid enough to ask for one. It was a fantastic win for us and am looking forward to us going top of the league on Saturday. If we do there's a good chance we stay there for the international break
 
J.spurs

J.spurs

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
No chance of a replay, and probably Liverpool wont be stupid enough to ask for one. It was a fantastic win for us and am looking forward to us going top of the league on Saturday. If we do there's a good chance we stay there for the international break
No chance, but I wouldn't be shocked if they requested it, if only to play to the lunatic fringe among their fans. Klippety has already said a replay would only be fair. Apparently now the match incident panel, whatever that is, has said Jota's sending off was wrong--more fuel to the fire.

Moving forward, you're right--it's a great opportunity, though Luton are starting to show signs of being a right headache to play against.
 
Dave

Dave

Player in Training.
Founding Member
Time to move on lads. Its been entertaining watching the dippers frothing at the mouth but time to leave them at it now.
They've already embarrassed themselves, so more of the same means more comedy gold for the rest of us.
 
H

Hurrikane Harold

Player in Training.
No chance, but I wouldn't be shocked if they requested it, if only to play to the lunatic fringe among their fans. Klippety has already said a replay would only be fair. Apparently now the match incident panel, whatever that is, has said Jota's sending off was wrong--more fuel to the fire.

Moving forward, you're right--it's a great opportunity, though Luton are starting to show signs of being a right headache to play against.
Yep, of course they might request it, but I suspect they're not going to be that stupid.
The booing of the national anthem and their repeated claims to being not part of England is beginning to grate with many. Why then are they so happy to take money from the English Premier league
They have made a lot of enemies over the years, especially since Heysel
They could push a groundswell of hate and derision into a full flood if they're not careful.
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

The Aussie Yid
He's a cunt...

What am I missing/forgetting here?

I know I am getting older and memories of Spurs are becoming a blur but I can’t recall anything about O’hara being overly controversial.
 
Yid

Yid

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
What am I missing/forgetting here?

I know I am getting older and memories of Spurs are becoming a blur but I can’t recall anything about O’hara being overly controversial.
Mate he is a shock jock who thinks he has the right to spout shit about players and teams, simpy because he has a mouth.

His platform is the rickitiest thing I have ever fucking seen. One leage cup and player of the year at Portsmouth...!!!

I didn't dislike him as a player but he was a bang average early Prem player who achieved next to fuck all.

He will say stupid shit, inflammatory shit, just to provoke bile in people and imo that is the absolute worst form of journalism... in fact he is not a journalist, he's a cunt.
 
H

Hurrikane Harold

Player in Training.
Interesting comments today by Ange on VAR. He's worried like I am that a search for perfection may slow the game down too much and damage its appeal
I think VAR is too busy during a game and needs to cut down on its interventions and the nonstop chatter that seems to go on in the studio
He also said he wouldnt have gifted Liverpool a goal to even things up, and I absolutely agree with that.
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

The Aussie Yid
Mate he is a shock jock who thinks he has the right to spout shit about players and teams, simpy because he has a mouth.

His platform is the rickitiest thing I have ever fucking seen. One leage cup and player of the year at Portsmouth...!!!

I didn't dislike him as a player but he was a bang average early Prem player who achieved next to fuck all.

He will say stupid shit, inflammatory shit, just to provoke bile in people and imo that is the absolute worst form of journalism... in fact he is not a journalist, he's a cunt.

Well fair enough.👍

I suppose given the lack of football news out here in Australia I take the lazy option of streaming Talksport whilst getting ready for work in the morning so I hear a lot of Cundy and O’hara. I’ll admit I find their banter hilarious but I never take it seriously.

The standard of sports punditry (and general news coverage) in my country is a disgrace.

I get what you are saying though.
 
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