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Spygate.Dirty Leeds or Dumb Derby?

skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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I am I the only one not horrified by Bielsa scouting other teams training sessions?Its fair play isnt it,we see all the time teams playing and other clubs personnel or management watching,its the same thing?If your training ground can be viewed from public areas why wouldnt you expect it?.Maybe I have no morals but you expect professionals to do all they can,Derby have made fools of themselves IMO,yes it is a bit over the top,but if you can watch set piece practising just before a game,how they set up a side just before a match,it helps.If you saw Bielsa`s press conference yesterday he gave more info on derby than probably Lampard has,he is clearly meticulous (overly so i think),but there is no moral high ground here,its a non issue for me,but seems some of the media,fa derby think its bang out of order.I would agree if he was using drones,or climbing fences,sneeking in to private property,but watching from a public footpath?FFS this isnt watergate
Stuart Pearce wanted the result reversed?like he never pulled a fast one when playing.I actually loved Bielsa`s completely non-british response,yes I did it,whats the big deal,i have done it to everyone.
Spirit of the game died a century ago,I take more afront at someone appealing for a throw in when they know blatantly its not theirs than Bielsa doing a bit of homework in preparation.

 
Yid

Yid

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I also think it's fair game...

There are no rules against it anyway.

Would Poch do it?
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

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I am I the only one not horrified by Bielsa scouting other teams training sessions?Its fair play isnt it,we see all the time teams playing and other clubs personnel or management watching,its the same thing?If your training ground can be viewed from public areas why wouldnt you expect it?.Maybe I have no morals but you expect professionals to do all they can,Derby have made fools of themselves IMO,yes it is a bit over the top,but if you can watch set piece practising just before a game,how they set up a side just before a match,it helps.If you saw Bielsa`s press conference yesterday he gave more info on derby than probably Lampard has,he is clearly meticulous (overly so i think),but there is no moral high ground here,its a non issue for me,but seems some of the media,fa derby think its bang out of order.I would agree if he was using drones,or climbing fences,sneeking in to private property,but watching from a public footpath?FFS this isnt watergate
Stuart Pearce wanted the result reversed?like he never pulled a fast one when playing.I actually loved Bielsa`s completely non-british response,yes I did it,whats the big deal,i have done it to everyone.
Spirit of the game died a century ago,I take more afront at someone appealing for a throw in when they know blatantly its not theirs than Bielsa doing a bit of homework in preparation.

As we all know Bielsa is Poch’s mentor and maybe Pep’s as well...I’ve read the book Brave New World, but can’t remember the details.

I’m in the camp of gain every advantage you can, but legally. Marginal gains adopted by British Cycling, sailing, rowing, whatever. To be at the very top in sport these days you need to be completely professional, in all it’s guises. But keep it legal, as I understand it Bielsa’s man was in the bushes on Derby’s private training ground. If he was trespassing that’s illegal. If he was watching from a public space - fair enough, smart move.
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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I also think it's fair game...

There are no rules against it anyway.

Would Poch do it?
I reckon yes,he said something along the lines of he didnt see it as anything didnt happen everywhere else.
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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As we all know Bielsa is Poch’s mentor and maybe Pep’s as well...I’ve read the book Brave New World, but can’t remember the details.

I’m in the camp of gain every advantage you can, but legally. Marginal gains adopted by British Cycling, sailing, rowing, whatever. To be at the very top in sport these days you need to be completely professional, in all it’s guises. But keep it legal, as I understand it Bielsa’s man was in the bushes on Derby’s private training ground. If he was trespassing that’s illegal. If he was watching from a public space - fair enough, smart move.
Public space,police came and spoke because he was acting suspiciously,,but thats all.
Its the faux outrage by ex-pros/pundits,if you played football and never cheated then you didnt play football.Everyone goes "our ball",everyone appeals,christ we all do that just watching a game.I cannot see a law he has broken,"spirit of the game" they dont want to open that can of worms up!!
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

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It's a joke, isn't it?

A manager is not doing his job if he is not gathering intelligence on his opposition. Short of doing anything illegal, I have no issue at all with this and hope that Pochettino orchestrates similar reconnaissance.
 
J.spurs

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It's a joke, isn't it?

A manager is not doing his job if he is not gathering intelligence on his opposition. Short of doing anything illegal, I have no issue at all with this and hope that Pochettino orchestrates similar reconnaissance.
Agree, they're making something out of nothing.
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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Here is a photo of the training ground,you wouldnt have to tresspass to see what is going on,and a police statement said a man was questioned outside of the property and simply asked to move on.



What some others have made of it
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46878655

Also Lampards former team chelsea,AVB admitted he was sent to spy for them when he was staff for Jose,conviniently Lampard says he doesnt believe this.

Isnt the biggest part of football playing your own game and letting the others worry about you?the day it`s all about what the other team do then it`s time to give up and concede defeat.Whatever you know of the opposition,isnt going to change very much.This is such a minor thing blown out of all proportion by our british sense of fair play,bloody good show chaps attitude.
 
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