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    Discussion in 'Spurs Discussion' started by boo, Jan 6, 2017.

    1. boo

      boo Well-Known Member Founding Member

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      Liverpool
      P5 W3 D2 L0 PTS 11 GD +3
      5 to play - 3 home games, 2 away games

      Chelsea
      P6 W3 D0 L3 PTS 9 GD +1 - edited, 6 played not 5
      4 to play - 2 home games, 2 away games

      Tottenham Hotspur
      P6 W2 D2 L2 PTS 8 GD +2
      4 to play - 2 home games, 2 away games

      Manchester City
      P5 W2 D0 L3 PTS 6 GD -3
      5 to play - 3 home games, 2 away games

      Arsenal
      P5 W1 D2 L2 PTS 5 GD +1
      5 to play - 2 home games, 3 away games

      Manchester United
      P5 W1 D2 L2 PTS 5 GD -4
      5 to play - 2 home games, 3 away games



      Sunday 15th January 2017
      Manchester United V Liverpool

      Saturday 21st January 2017
      Manchester City V Tottenham Hotspur

      Tuesday 31st January 2017
      Liverpool V Chelsea

      Saturday 4th February 2017
      Chelsea V Arsenal

      Saturday 11th February 2017
      Liverpool V Tottenham Hotspur

      Sunday 26th February 2017
      Manchester City V Manchester United

      Saturday 4th March 2017
      Liverpool V Arsenal

      Saturday 18th March 2017
      Manchester City V Liverpool

      Saturday 1st April 2017
      Arsenal V Manchester City

      Wednesday 5th April 2017
      Chelsea V Manchester City

      Saturday 15th April 2017
      Manchester United V Chelsea

      Saturday 29th April 2017
      Tottenham Hotspur V Arsenal

      Saturday 6th May 2017
      Arsenal V Manchester United

      Saturday 13th May 2017
      Tottenham Hotspur V Manchester United
       
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    2. boo

      boo Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    3. Don Diaz

      Don Diaz Zero tolerance of Numpty's Founding Member

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      Our games are reasonably nicely spaced out, I think City might struggle in Pep's first year and I hope the other one is Arsenal. Chelsea are pretty much sorted for top 4 I would guess, but you never know. Them and Liverpool not having European football is a big help.
       
    4. Ted the Yid

      Ted the Yid Well-Known Member Founding Member

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      Chelsea aside, everyone has an extra game in the mini top 6 league, which means at least 2 teams will drop points.

      Once we get the bin dippers out of the way, it's a nice run of games until the Arsenal game, so we can really up the pressure in the others.
       
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    5. Glenjamin

      Glenjamin Well-Known Member Founding Member

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      I can see Liverpool slowing down with the loss of mane for the African nations. Chelsea look OK but have watched a few games recently and they don't look brilliant by any stretch. Man United are picking up the pace a bit which is annoying, and ibra is finding space now, but we have now got everyone fit and the formation against Chelsea will battle against anyone. Alli has his top form, Kane looks back to full fitness and how are anyone going to score against us with Toby, vert,dier, dembele and wanyama standing in front of them.

      Arsenal as usual I have no idea how they are in amongst it bit hopefully they will start to slip a bit.

      I reckon we'll end up in the mixer around May and could even win it dare I say!!
       
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    6. Nundy

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      It funny how far apart the top 6 clubs are from the rest of the teams in the league. Remind me of the Scottish league with all the teams falling behind.

      With all the teams in the top 6 playing at least 1 game against each other for the next few weeks leads to an exciting time period.
       
    7. skiathospurs

      skiathospurs Well-Known Member Founding Member

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      Liverpool and united both have two legged semi-finals in the EFL cup and possibly would play each other in the final if they progress,could be a nice little hiccup factor for us?
       
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    8. skiathospurs

      skiathospurs Well-Known Member Founding Member

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      SAM (Sports Analytics Machine), has calculated the final Premier League table!
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      Cant be right,arsenal not in 4th?
      Personally not dissecting this too much,but I feel liverpool will fall away,from what we have seen their squad is pretty empty with quality to step in,the 4 cup games this month will almost certainly lead to Bielsa burnout come april,and they seem to be quite injury prone.
       
    9. Dorset

      Dorset The Voice Of Reason Founding Member

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      These so-called scientific predictions are just Mystic Meg bollox mate, the grandly name CIES Football Observatory say Chavs, Dippers, City, Scum, Spurs, Manure - anybody can predict which teams will probably make up the top 6, nobody can predict which team will fall to bits due to injury - except that Dutch wanker who talks bollox about training methods and stuff - one bad game can fuck a team's head to teensy pieces, like us against the toon last year, I wonder how many of these clever prediction models predicted that?

      The great thing about Football is it is unpredictable - unless of course you are that septic twunt who can predict everything with 'data models', yeah fuck them data model blokes, they are bollicks the are. You can calculate a probability, but that ain't a prediction, there are way too many variables in football - thank fuck. If football was predictable there would be no need to play any games, you could just press a button on a computer and crown the Premier League champs.
       
    10. Don Diaz

      Don Diaz Zero tolerance of Numpty's Founding Member

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      It will be interesting to see how close this is at the end of the season, @Dorset does your sausage machine/Goalometer do the same thing? Might be interesting 'just for fun' to see how they compare and who wins come May?
       
    11. Dorset

      Dorset The Voice Of Reason Founding Member

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      Nah mate, that way lies madness! The Sausage Machine came about from a probability calculator that gave updated odds throughout games, obviously as a game progresses every event or non-event in a game will change the result probability, minute by minute, so if you are not a gambling type and have a large amount of wedge for when long runs of improbable things happen then you can make money laying bets. I AM a gambling type so don't have the self-discipline needed to do this and the gentlemen I provided this service too are 'unavailable' for a few years, so I turned the high level data and stuff into a website, also I needed a test site for a client that wanted a site built from a database in Bootstrap and it got a bit bigger than I planned! I might one day offer the in-match probability thingy, but it is not much cop without the updated minute by minute ratings because the bookies provide almost exactly the same pre-game probability calculations as I would - and you don't have to pay them! The logistics of this would be a pain and I don't know that I can be arsed with it at the moment, the stress would probably do me in.

      Predicting the outcome of a single game is farking tough, the runs of improbable results happen at an improbably high rate, trying to predict the results of a season would be stark raving bonkers, futile as fuck, like resistance, that is futile as well. Maybe if we had an Infinite Improbability Drive we could fire it up and get the right answer - 42?

      There are some inserting data that one day I will start publishing, the numpty in the other place would be interested to hear just how wrong the bookies are, I know exactly how wrong and it is very wrong, but they have a thingy called their over-round which makes sure they win, however wrong their predictions are, they just have to get enough people to back both sides of an outcome at the right odds.
       
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    12. Don Diaz

      Don Diaz Zero tolerance of Numpty's Founding Member

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      Another thing that I find fascinating, thanks, excellent read.

      ps I'll have half a crown on Spurs to win 4-2 then.....and I'll pay the tax. Jeff Astle to score for West Brom and Big Chiv to get two for Spurs.
       
    13. Dorset

      Dorset The Voice Of Reason Founding Member

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      You can pay me the tax! A mystery move from the fucking feds, they scrapped betting tax and put tax on insurance premiums! So, if you do the right thing and make sure your house is insured so you won't have to sponge off the state you have to pay tax but if you splurge your wedge on gambling then yahoo, no tax!

      Back in the olden days I went back up north with Mrs D, the landlord of the local pub used to run an illegal book, I asked if could have a tenner on a horse and could I pay the tax - the whole pub burst into laughter, they don't do tax at all up in the wilds of the North East where herself comes from, they thought it was hilarious that a a soft southerner would pay tax. I also remember getting so drunk that day that I tried to buy a racing greyhound, luckily Mrs D stepped in and blocked that purchase!
       
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    14. Don Diaz

      Don Diaz Zero tolerance of Numpty's Founding Member

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      You have much to thank Mrs D for....not just packed lunches!
       
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    15. boo

      boo Well-Known Member Founding Member

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      update... stalemate in the two 'top six' games so far, Spurs up to second, arse drop to the bottom. Spurs have just three more 'top six' games, the least amount remaining from the group. Arse have five more to play.

      Liverpool
      P5 W3 D3 L0 PTS 12 GD +3
      4 to play - 3 home games, 1 away games

      Tottenham Hotspur
      P6 W2 D2 L2 PTS 9 GD +2
      3 to play - 2 home games, 1 away games

      Chelsea
      P6 W3 D0 L3 PTS 9 GD +1 - edited, 6 played not 5
      4 to play - 2 home games, 2 away games

      Manchester City
      P5 W2 D1 L3 PTS 7 GD -3
      4 to play - 2 home games, 2 away games

      Manchester United
      P5 W1 D3 L2 PTS 6 GD -4
      4 to play - 1 home games, 3 away games

      Arsenal
      P5 W1 D2 L2 PTS 5 GD +1
      5 to play - 2 home games, 3 away games



      Sunday 15th January 2017
      Manchester United 1-1 Liverpool

      Saturday 21st January 2017
      Manchester City 2-2 Tottenham Hotspur

      Tuesday 31st January 2017
      Liverpool V Chelsea

      Saturday 4th February 2017
      Chelsea V Arsenal

      Saturday 11th February 2017
      Liverpool V Tottenham Hotspur

      Sunday 26th February 2017
      Manchester City V Manchester United

      Saturday 4th March 2017
      Liverpool V Arsenal

      Saturday 18th March 2017
      Manchester City V Liverpool

      Saturday 1st April 2017
      Arsenal V Manchester City

      Wednesday 5th April 2017
      Chelsea V Manchester City

      Saturday 15th April 2017
      Manchester United V Chelsea

      Saturday 29th April 2017
      Tottenham Hotspur V Arsenal

      Saturday 6th May 2017
      Arsenal V Manchester United

      Saturday 13th May 2017
      Tottenham Hotspur V Manchester United
       
    16. boo

      boo Well-Known Member Founding Member

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      update... stalemate, again, in a 'top six' game. The Chavs up to second, arse still bottom. Spurs, dippers and the chavs have three more 'top six' games, the least amount remaining from the group. Arse have five more to play.

      Liverpool
      P5 W3 D4 L0 PTS 13 GD +3
      3 to play - 2 home games, 1 away game

      Chelsea
      P6 W3 D1 L3 PTS 10 GD +1
      3 to play - 2 home games, 1 away game

      Tottenham Hotspur
      P6 W2 D2 L2 PTS 9 GD +2
      3 to play - 2 home games, 1 away game

      Manchester City
      P5 W2 D1 L3 PTS 7 GD -3
      4 to play - 2 home games, 2 away games

      Manchester United
      P5 W1 D3 L2 PTS 6 GD -4
      4 to play - 1 home games, 3 away games

      Arsenal
      P5 W1 D2 L2 PTS 5 GD +1
      5 to play - 2 home games, 3 away games



      Sunday 15th January 2017
      Manchester United 1-1 Liverpool

      Saturday 21st January 2017
      Manchester City 2-2 Tottenham Hotspur

      Tuesday 31st January 2017
      Liverpool 1-1 Chelsea

      Saturday 4th February 2017
      Chelsea V Arsenal

      Saturday 11th February 2017
      Liverpool V Tottenham Hotspur

      Sunday 26th February 2017
      Manchester City V Manchester United

      Saturday 4th March 2017
      Liverpool V Arsenal

      Saturday 18th March 2017
      Manchester City V Liverpool

      Saturday 1st April 2017
      Arsenal V Manchester City

      Wednesday 5th April 2017
      Chelsea V Manchester City

      Saturday 15th April 2017
      Manchester United V Chelsea

      Saturday 29th April 2017
      Tottenham Hotspur V Arsenal

      Saturday 6th May 2017
      Arsenal V Manchester United

      Saturday 13th May 2017
      Tottenham Hotspur V Manchester United
       
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    17. boo

      boo Well-Known Member Founding Member

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      all change in the predictions...

      [​IMG]
       
    18. skiathospurs

      skiathospurs Well-Known Member Founding Member

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      wonder what 2 games we are going to lose?liverpool away is most likely for a computer model?so if we win that game we win the league,simple!!:)
       
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