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Tottenham, V Everton (A) 14;00 19th Jan.

Havocc

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Steven Pienaar walks into a sperm donor bank in London... "I'd like to donate some sperm" he says to the receptionist. "Certainly Sir" replies the receptionist, "have you donated before?". "Yes" replies Steven "you should have my details on your computer". "Oh yes, I've found your details" says the receptionist "but I see you're going to need help. Shall I call your wife for you?"

"Why do I need help?" asks Steven.

The receptionist replies "Well, it says on your record that you're a useless wanker...."

Let’s fucking go!!
 
ClemFandango

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We could be 15th going in to this game.

I think we're "lucky" in a way that Leicester, Ipswich and Southampton are so abjectly awful this season that it's unlikely we'll get pulled in to a proper relegation battle.

Although we've also lost the same number of games as Ipswich as well ..
 
Style And Glory

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I don't feel that we will drop any further. From here on in, we're going to improve.
And as you say, those 3 clubs are very, very poor.

As for Everton, again, it's against a team with a new manager. Will they get the bounce?
 
ClemFandango

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Poch was sacked when we were 14th and I think he had far more credit in the bank than Ange does.
 
Havocc

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Fair? From Henry Winter on Twitter

It’s hard to make a proper judgement call on Ange Postecoglou until the triangle of Vicario-Romero-Van de Ven is restored. Imagine Arsenal without Raya-Saliba-Gabriel. Postecoglou has flaws, set-pieces, risky high line at times and not realising that stubbornness is different from single-mindedness. His players’ lack of fight in the North London Derby (Bergvall, Spence and Gray honourable exceptions) reflects poorly on his team-talks as well as their character. It’s the Derby - commitment is the starting point. The captain, Son, scored but he’s not the force he was. It’s a mentality thing as much as ability with Spurs. And injuries. The squad depth isn’t there.

Postecoglou is hardly the only manager trying to cope with an injury crisis. Andoni Iraola has 8 players out at Bournemouth, still doing well (8th in PL),still getting a balanced, organised, very competitive XI out, but then he's a better manager (tactically, in-game management etc) than Postecoglou (and will go to a CL club one day). There still has to be sympathy for Postecoglou as most of his absentees in one area. Imagine a team of: Vicario; Porro/Spence, Romero, Van de Ven, Udogie; Bergvall, Bentancur/Maddison (depending on opponent then Maddison as a 10),Gray; Kulusevski, Solanke, Moore. That’s decent. European qualification strength. Good age balance.

Spurs have some good players (also Johnson, Bissouma, Sarr, Richarlison when fit, Kinsky when he learns about intensity of English football). But the squad needs strengthening. 13th is poor. The lack of intensity in the Derby was poor. It’s now about getting that defence fit, and Postecoglou getting more out of them. #NLD #THFC #ARSTOT
 
Dave

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Fair? From Henry Winter on Twitter

It’s hard to make a proper judgement call on Ange Postecoglou until the triangle of Vicario-Romero-Van de Ven is restored. Imagine Arsenal without Raya-Saliba-Gabriel. Postecoglou has flaws, set-pieces, risky high line at times and not realising that stubbornness is different from single-mindedness. His players’ lack of fight in the North London Derby (Bergvall, Spence and Gray honourable exceptions) reflects poorly on his team-talks as well as their character. It’s the Derby - commitment is the starting point. The captain, Son, scored but he’s not the force he was. It’s a mentality thing as much as ability with Spurs. And injuries. The squad depth isn’t there.

Postecoglou is hardly the only manager trying to cope with an injury crisis. Andoni Iraola has 8 players out at Bournemouth, still doing well (8th in PL),still getting a balanced, organised, very competitive XI out, but then he's a better manager (tactically, in-game management etc) than Postecoglou (and will go to a CL club one day). There still has to be sympathy for Postecoglou as most of his absentees in one area. Imagine a team of: Vicario; Porro/Spence, Romero, Van de Ven, Udogie; Bergvall, Bentancur/Maddison (depending on opponent then Maddison as a 10),Gray; Kulusevski, Solanke, Moore. That’s decent. European qualification strength. Good age balance.

Spurs have some good players (also Johnson, Bissouma, Sarr, Richarlison when fit, Kinsky when he learns about intensity of English football). But the squad needs strengthening. 13th is poor. The lack of intensity in the Derby was poor. It’s now about getting that defence fit, and Postecoglou getting more out of them. #NLD #THFC #ARSTOT
Can't argue with that. If Everton get a result then that could be the end for Ange, and it would be hard to dispute the decision.
My question would be...who could turn things around and want to work with Levy ?
 
Havocc

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I have no doubt Ange will be here for the season. Which means next season will be the one where he is judged after 4/5 windows.
 
Havocc

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I really hope that’s the case.
I think it will be. I think Levy can see the potential in the team based on some of the performances this year. I also believe missing out on Europe is not as bad as it used to be considering all the additional revenue coming in.

If we fail to qualify, then we can just book Adele in for a few concerts. 😂😂

We are still in a rebuild. We have bought well for the future and filled in some spots with stop gaps. Hopefully summer will be the time for more experienced player transfers.
 
Yid

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I have a bad feeling about this... Just feel uneasy about it and I agree that Ange is potentially one bad result/performance away from the dole que...!

For the record I back Ange and I think he needs a season and backing with £100m net spend with a shit loads of players out to be judged...!!!
 
J.spurs

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I have a bad feeling about this... Just feel uneasy about it and I agree that Ange is potentially one bad result/performance away from the dole que...!

For the record I back Ange and I think he needs a season and backing with £100m net spend with a shit loads of players out to be judged...!!!
I hope @Havocc is right, I'm afraid you're right.
 
ClemFandango

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Fuck all of it. Just cancel the season and we can all go home. If Richarlison picks up another injury then we are screwed because Sonny is running on fumes and can't fill in as the main striker for the next six weeks.
 
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J.spurs

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Fuck all of it. Just cancel the season and we can all go home.
Unbelievable (but somehow also completely predictable).

Thank fuck we got Richy back. If we don't bring in another striker, which seems unlikely, I guess young Lankshear will have to finally get some minutes instead of getting loaned out. Son has offered nothing in that position this season, and otherwise it's Werner.
 
ClemFandango

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Unbelievable (but somehow also completely predictable).

Thank fuck we got Richy back. If we don't bring in another striker, which seems unlikely, I guess young Lankshear will have to finally get some minutes instead of getting loaned out. Son has offered nothing in that position this season, and otherwise it's Werner.
Well Ange wouldn't play Alfie Dorrington despite us needing a centre back and he's been loaned to Aberdeen so i suppose it remains to be seen what happens with Lankshear.

He preferred Solanke playing nearly an hour on Tamworth's artificial pitch while Lankshear sat on the bench doing nothing as well and you have to say that Bergvall, Gray and probably Spence are only getting minutes because he's got no other choice at the moment - he even said as much that if they hadn't had so many injuries that Spence would likely have been loaned out this month.

You have to wonder if he actually is doing anything to try and mitigate these injuries though. Is the training still as intense and physical or have they worked on adjusting it ?

If it's the former then that is bad management, like it or not.

Apparently Johnson and Bissouma also out tomorrow ..
 
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Dave

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I'm really pissed....pints bottles, and now vodka"s .......
Have no idea why I'm telling you this but my eldest daughter is 30 today so all is good !!!
 
J.spurs

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Well Ange wouldn't play Alfie Dorrington despite us needing a centre back and he's been loaned to Aberdeen so i suppose it remains to be seen what happens with Lankshear.

He preferred Solanke playing nearly an hour on Tamworth's artificial pitch while Lankshear sat on the bench doing nothing as well and you have to say that Bergvall, Gray and probably Spence are only getting minutes because he's got no other choice at the moment - he even said as much that if they hadn't had so many injuries that Spence would likely have been loaned out this month.

You have to wonder if he actually is doing anything to try and mitigate these injuries though. Is the training still as intense and physical or have they worked on adjusting it ?

If it's the former then that is bad management, like it or not.

Apparently Johnson and Bissouma also out tomorrow ..
This is all fair criticism IMO.

I did hear on the VFTL podcast that Dorrington had a pretty serious injury that kept him from training for a while and that they thought that was why Ange was reluctant to play him. Who knows. In any case I have a Scottish expat friend who’s an Aberdeen fan and they’re excited to have him. Apparently he’s expected to play right away.

As for Bergvall and especially Gray, I do think they’re different level—they’d probably get minutes by now even if we hadn’t had injuries. Their performances plus Spence seizing the opportunity are silver linings to say the least.
 
spurious

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This is fucking ridiculous. Have never heard of anything like this, let alone experienced it with my team.
 
Havocc

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My predicted team
 
Chavhater01

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Really looking forward to seeing Gray in the middle of the park. C'mon boys, surely we got this!
 
Yid

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Can only think Gray in midfield... Be nice to see
 
J.spurs

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No idea what shape we are. Looks like maybe 3-4-3?
 
Yid

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I don't understand why the refs/lino need Comms... What does the 4th official have to say thats that important...?

The gaffers and the players just shout...

I think it's way overcomplicating things...

Yeah the ref and VAR I could suck... But the rest is bullshit.
 
Yid

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When DCL ties your centre half in knots you know you're shit...
 
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