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Who is our best second team player?

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Dustin

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With MP's first team clearly nailed down as follows:

--------------Loris-----------
-----Dier--Toby--Vert-----
Walk-Wany-Demb-Rose
-------Eriks------Alli--------
-----------Kane-------------

Who is the second team player that is most unfortunate to not be a dead-on starter?
And what other top 6 prem team would they walk right into the starting line-up?


Some B-teamers that may feel a bit hard-done:
Davies
Son
Trippier
Vorm
Sissoko
Winks
Jansen
Wimmer

...Trippier for me. I think he would start at City, Liverpool, and Arsenal. There may not be a better right back in the world than Walker at the moment - he may not be the very best at any one thing, but he manages to be utterly dominant in virtually every aspect of his game.
 
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Trippier and think the last month winks has been unlucky not to be starting.
Whatever way you look at it Son,davies,trippier,vorm and now winks are excellent cover for us and starters in most non sky big 4 sides,still plenty of time for janssen and sissoko to do things,wimmer i think physically is too cumbersome,but good cover,I just cant see him getting the pace needed for Poch`s style,although he has done well partnered with the experience of toby.
And dont forget Lamela is actually still alive!!
 
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For me it's Son, he's quick strong and a great goal threat for us! 7 league goals and 3 assists for second string player is brilliant! Trippier is a great right back and Winks has really come along well this season too but simply for his goals and experience of top flight football elsewhere, icluding champions league football I've gone with Son.
 
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Good question. Trippier probably, although all of them could play for someone else in the Premier League. I'm not sure he's better than Bellerin and Clyne though. Davies and Trippier would easily be in Everton's team next year, Baines and Coleman are getting on, amongst a host of others - Southampton, Bournemouth, Watford, West Brom, Stoke etc. for example. The same applies to Wimmer and Son although I don't think he has as many different aspects to his game, apart from running and shooting. Janssen and Sissoko juries still out, Vorm came from Swansea could go back and start for them. Winks is one for us definitely for the future, Dembele/Eriksen light at present.
 
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Without a doubt Son for me, although it could well be Winks in the not so distant future.
 
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Don't wink at me with that avi Ire, I got chills.....
Vorm for me.
 
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If we played Jan and Toby at the back, with Rose Walker and Dier in front, that with loris is a brilliant back 6 with real attacking flair.
But if we played four I'd like to see Davies, Jan Toby, Walker, with Rose and Trippier playing a Baleseque type role

As to the question , Winks has surprised me , as I had Mason , Carroll and Pritchard well ahead of him beginning of last season
 
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WINKS by a mile. He just reads the game brilliantly. He will find space, receive the ball and already be set up to pass the ball forward. He very rarely makes a mistake or gives the ball away. He has the speed and on the ball skills to bomb forward when required. His assist for Dele at the weekend just shows his speed of thought. Massive future Spurs player and Poch's love child.
 
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WINKS by a mile. He just reads the game brilliantly. He will find space, receive the ball and already be set up to pass the ball forward. He very rarely makes a mistake or gives the ball away. He has the speed and on the ball skills to bomb forward when required. His assist for Dele at the weekend just shows his speed of thought. Massive future Spurs player and Poch's love child.
He has come on in high pressure matches and looks so assured,always positive,has a decent shot,he`s like an ardiles,modric,carrick mongrel crossbreed.His time to regularly start will be soon I hope,i have no fears about him when he plays.
 
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He has come on in high pressure matches and looks so assured,always positive,has a decent shot,he`s like an ardiles,modric,carrick mongrel crossbreed.His time to regularly start will be soon I hope,i have no fears about him when he plays.
Over who?

I think he's great, but unless someone in our first team falls off their current level, I don't see Winks breaking into the first team even if he continues to improve over this or next season unless Dembele get's hurt.

The issue is not so so much skill, it's type of player. And with that in mind, I think we would be crazy to regularly start Winks over Dembele - Winks will never be a defensive attribute like Wanyama - and that just leaves Eriksen. ...who is still years ahead of Winks. I see him getting a lot of game time and starting when Dembele is injured or needs a rest, but I can't see him as a regular starter for premier league games without Dembele falling on hard times.

2 seasons from now, it's another story.
 
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Over who?

I think he's great, but unless someone in our first team falls off their current level, I don't see Winks breaking into the first team even if he continues to improve over this or next season unless Dembele get's hurt.

The issue is not so so much skill, it's type of player. And with that in mind, I think we would be crazy to regularly start Winks over Dembele - Winks will never be a defensive attribute like Wanyama - and that just leaves Eriksen. ...who is still years ahead of Winks. I see him getting a lot of game time and starting when Dembele is injured or needs a rest, but I can't see him as a regular starter for premier league games without Dembele falling on hard times.

2 seasons from now, it's another story.
Mostly I see him coming in for dembele,that sounds extreme,i dont mean dropping dembele,but he is our most fragile player,and could allow winks some starts.I think winks and wanyama`s strength will be a good combo in tandem.And once again sounding harsh on mousa cos he does a lot of good work,but goal scoring and assists are areas I think Winks will exceed him.It sounds like I dont agree with you when I do,but I think Winks/dembele sharing starts more is what will happen next year,or Mousa will get to an even higher standard adding goals to his game,leaving Winks looking to find a gap somewhere else in the side,I dont see him coming in for Eriksen too as you said.
 

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