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Basskadet

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Still hoping for some kind of Borough result tonight.

Arsenal have conceded 3 goals in each of their last 4 Away games - just IMAGINE the carnage on Arsenal fan TV if they concede 3 against Boro, a team who've only managed 0.7 goals per game this season!! Ham-rolls all round!
 
Dorset

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Arsenal have conceded 3 goals in each of their last 4 Away games - just IMAGINE the carnage on Arsenal fan TV if they concede 3 against Boro, a team who've only managed 0.7 goals per game this season!! Ham-rolls all round!
I want this to happen. I have sacrificed a coat (couldn't find any goats, so an old anorak has been offered up to the dark Lord - he'll be OK with that, he's my mate). They are shambles, the fans have turned on them and Wenger, they have only won 2 of their last 8 games, they have lost all of their last 4 away games - it couldn't happen could it? Oh please! Even a draw would be a kick in the downstairs department for the goons. Will Wenger play the kids and save the more useless first team players for Sunday's FA Cup semi-final game against City? This could be good!
 
conor1

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Pre-Manchester United,

Antonio Conte: "everybody expects Chelsea to win titles"


Post-Manchester United,

Antonio Conte: "for Chelsea to be where they are is a miracle"
Been thinking about the few interviews he's done over the weekend and how some of the pundits are saying how Conte has started the mind games blah blah blah..........I'm not convinced at all that Conte is handling the pressure now being forced upon him and his side by us. Now, maybe I'm just trying to convince myself that he's struggling with it but there does not seem to be any shape or make to his ramblings cos I believe that is just what they are....ramblings. We could really make a huge statement at the weekend here.
 
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Basskadet

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Totally agree @conor1

The media & co have been calling it "mind games" but I'm struggling to see how saying your rivals are "clearly the best team in the League" and how Chelsea being top is a "miracle" does any good? Jose and Fergie did the mind games thing but I don't remember them ever "taking the pressure off" their teams by effectively saying they aren't as good as their opponents and they're lucky to be where they are, lol!
 
conor1

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Totally agree @conor1

The media & co have been calling it "mind games" but I'm struggling to see how saying your rivals are "clearly the best team in the League" and how Chelsea being top is a "miracle" does any good? Jose and Fergie did the mind games thing but I don't remember them ever "taking the pressure off" their teams by effectively saying they aren't as good as their opponents and they're lucky to be where they are, lol!
Absolutely Bass. With Mourinho and Fergie you could always see a method almost in their interviews but Conte just has a look of a man whose caught in the headlights. His team at the weekend vs Manure reverted to type and started the nasty stuff, Mourinho absolutely did one on him. There's an article in one of the broadsheets from Sunday where Pochettino says this years title race is a fair race, a fair competition, alluding to the nonsense that went on last year with the chavs and the media. I think he's right, on the other hand, Conte seems to have got sucked into mind games that simply aren't there from Pochettino. I reckon Conte has taken his eyes off the ball, at least I hope he has.
 
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Don Diaz

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He did ok in the 2-0 home win against them
As long as he doesn't do that thing where he feels to even things up mentally. I was at that game at from memory there was barely any incident. Oh Costa was arguing with his own players, that's it.
 
conor1

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Wasn't Atkinson the ref when the chavs did us at Wembley in the semi-final a few years ago?
 
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corroded

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I'm just happy two years in a row we're still in with a shout in April.
 
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Basskadet

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Quite a lot has been said about our run-in and the relatively easier games Chelsea have, but it does depend on how you look at it.

We've shown our ability to raise our game, particularly at home, and when you have the likes Manchester United coming to N17 then I don't think we will need any extra motivation. Actually, I think having such big games in our run-in may help distract us from any pressure that we could potentially feel. For example, say Chelsea lose and we only have to win to go top, you just know that if that game was against Sunderland where everyone expects us to get 3pts, we'd balls it up! That's because we are not focussing on the opponent and what we have to do beat them, as we are supposed to beat them easily. Instead we begin to focus on the pressure of NOT beating them and that often becomes self-fulfilling.

I guarantee that will not be an issue against United or Woolwich. It could be against West Ham but, again, because it is derby and because of last season (when they beat us in the same fixture during our title-chasing run-in) I suspect we will have no issue raising our game.

It's similar for the Leicester game too. They ARE the Champions, and the team which beat us to it last year. We'll need no greater motivation. However, for them, I just don't see why they would push themselves to beat us. Maybe to do Chelsea a favour, seeing as Chelsea supposedly drew against us so Leicester could win the League but, come on, that's a stretch. A few people said it was unfortunate Leicester got knocked out the UCL the other night as they no longer have European distractions. Actually, I think it may be the best thing which could've happened as they no longer have anything to play for. They're comfortably safe mid-table and, I guarantee that, having pushed themselves so hard to do something special in Europe, now it's over more than a few players will have their bags packed ready for the summer hols!

Funnily enough, Hull are the ones who worry me. Last game of the season at their ground, where they may well still have a faint chance of staying up if they win, with a manager who has not lost a home game in 3 years! They're the only team which not only is there an expectation for us to beat, but as a club on their own terms have no real means of motivating our players. That spells danger to me. The only interesting factor about Hull in relation to us is all the ex-Spurs who play there. However, that too may work against us as, if they have to win to stay up, they won't be feeling sentimental over the 90min!

That said, Chelsea's "easy" run-in may work against them for precisely these reasons. It's very hard to see how the likes of Boro or Sunderland can do anything against Chelsea, but that might just mean they take their eye off the ball. Both clubs will only be playing for pride by that point most likely and, as we found out against Newcastle, with the pressure of relegation taken away they might just feel freed up a bit, whereas Chelsea will have nothing but pressure as, come on, they HAVE to beat these guys and the title is theirs! Easy! But what if...?
 
skiathospurs

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Quite a lot has been said about our run-in and the relatively easier games Chelsea have, but it does depend on how you look at it.

We've shown our ability to raise our game, particularly at home, and when you have the likes Manchester United coming to N17 then I don't think we will need any extra motivation. Actually, I think having such big games in our run-in may help distract us from any pressure that we could potentially feel. For example, say Chelsea lose and we only have to win to go top, you just know that if that game was against Sunderland where everyone expects us to get 3pts, we'd balls it up! That's because we are not focussing on the opponent and what we have to do beat them, as we are supposed to beat them easily. Instead we begin to focus on the pressure of NOT beating them and that often becomes self-fulfilling.

I guarantee that will not be an issue against United or Woolwich. It could be against West Ham but, again, because it is derby and because of last season (when they beat us in the same fixture during our title-chasing run-in) I suspect we will have no issue raising our game.

It's similar for the Leicester game too. They ARE the Champions, and the team which beat us to it last year. We'll need no greater motivation. However, for them, I just don't see why they would push themselves to beat us. Maybe to do Chelsea a favour, seeing as Chelsea supposedly drew against us so Leicester could win the League but, come on, that's a stretch. A few people said it was unfortunate Leicester got knocked out the UCL the other night as they no longer have European distractions. Actually, I think it may be the best thing which could've happened as they no longer have anything to play for. They're comfortably safe mid-table and, I guarantee that, having pushed themselves so hard to do something special in Europe, now it's over more than a few players will have their bags packed ready for the summer hols!

Funnily enough, Hull are the ones who worry me. Last game of the season at their ground, where they may well still have a faint chance of staying up if they win, with a manager who has not lost a home game in 3 years! They're the only team which not only is there an expectation for us to beat, but as a club on their own terms have no real means of motivating our players. That spells danger to me. The only interesting factor about Hull in relation to us is all the ex-Spurs who play there. However, that too may work against us as, if they have to win to stay up, they won't be feeling sentimental over the 90min!

That said, Chelsea's "easy" run-in may work against them for precisely these reasons. It's very hard to see how the likes of Boro or Sunderland can do anything against Chelsea, but that might just mean they take their eye off the ball. Both clubs will only be playing for pride by that point most likely and, as we found out against Newcastle, with the pressure of relegation taken away they might just feel freed up a bit, whereas Chelsea will have nothing but pressure as, come on, they HAVE to beat these guys and the title is theirs! Easy! But what if...?
They have a poor record with west brom recently,only won 4 from 10,thats hope right there!
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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Agents Chadli and Livermore, ACTIVATE!
And Defoe !!

Its all still a bit of a dream,it would be a newcastle-esque flop if they blew the lead they had,I think it would scar them for years if it happened.
 
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Basskadet

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... might want to deactivate Townsend for our game as well.

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Andros Townsend @andros_townsend

Congrats and good luck to @SpursOfficial in their pursuit of Chelsea






Fair play to Chelsea today, by the way. I was really expecting them to drop something today, and they absolutely smashed Everton 2nd half. Have to give them credit for that, as much as they stink.

That said, I was never expecting us to take 6points out of 6 playing in form Palace at their gaff and then having the last ever NLD at the Lane after! The way we dealt with the pressure in those games, particularly knowing the Chavs had played 1st & won, makes me genuinely believe that us winning out our remaining games is a real possibility. We're in a wonderful position now where, whatever we do, it's wonderful! We can't finish below Woolwich and top 3 is all but confirmed, with 2nd looking ever more certain, our highest Premier League points total ever already in the bag, our longest winning run at Home in a single season already in the bag...

...basically, each game from here to the end is just pure enjoyment and, if we can keep winning, by playing before Chelsea we put the pressure back on them a little and we don't even need them to lose. Just a couple draws, which can happen against ANYONE, and our GD will see the title come to N17!

Not by any means expecting it to, but it's very possible still and it really is just a thrill to support this beautiful football club right now!
 
conor1

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Lets beat the gypsys on Friday and see how the chavs perform under a bit of pressure now. I still maintain that we win all our games we win the title.
 
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Basskadet

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Lets beat the gypsys on Friday and see how the chavs perform under a bit of pressure now. I still maintain that we win all our games we win the title.

Who thought Boro would get a point against City? They even took the lead twice.

Pundits keep pointing at Chelsea's "easy" run-in, but i maintain that our harder games will make sure we keep our eye on the ball. I just have a suspicion 1 or 2 Chavs might think the titles already won and these teams will be a walk over, but under-estimate at your peril.
 
Dorset

Dorset

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Costa and Kante need just one more yellow to get two match bans - I think they are both on 9 and 10 is the magic number? It would be interesting if they both got booked against Middlesbrough, who showed they ain't going to go down without a fight. Of course the title is Chelsea's to lose, but a lot can happen in the next 4 games, I don't think it matters if we are still in the chase we just need to make sure that the next game is always a 'must win' regardless of the competition or the chances of winning. Anyway fuck the chavs we can't influence how they do in the remaining fixtures.

The mighty Poch has now had 3 seasons to get rid of the deadwood and start building the team he wants. Luckily has achieved comparatively great results and so the old bastard Levy has not sacked him. I don't care how much people love Levy and want to snog the fucker, he has previous for sacking managers and being impatient. The numpties should have been won over to the cause now and see just how good the Poch is - some still don't believe but there are some dumb fucks around as we have seen in the world of so-called democracy recently. They still slag him off because 100% of his signings have not been magnificent, fucking unbelievable, I wonder if they are 100% successful in everything they do, stupid numpties.

I never expected us to achieve such fantastic results in the first 3 years of the Pooch's reign, it really must be emphasised that we HAVE done incredibly well. How many times in the Premier League era have we qualified for the Champions League before Pochettino? ermm, let;s count them up, 1......

Two consecutive years CL qualification (not guaranteed yet, but I think it's nailed on). Our best finishes, points, goal difference etc.etc 2 years running. This is how legends are built, a fantastic 20 years like some other clubs have experienced has to start somewhere and maybe, just maybe we are seeing the start of our new rise to glory. OK, we might not win the title this season, it's unlikely, but next season, if we keep this momentum going then we can reasonably expect some shininess to appear in our trophy cabinet. We have only had two disappointing Premier League results this season in my mind, West Brom and Sunderland, if we had scored one more goal in those 2 matches we would be neck and neck with the chavs! I don't include Bournemouth as a disappointment they have had spells of superbness and were really unpredictable. In the past 2 seasons we have had just 1 really nasty thumping, that is fucking incredible - we had many awful days under our previous three managers, we are now showing the consistency needed to be winners.

I think we have one more year before the wages effect takes hold and the love of playing for the Poch and being at the start of something yuge is overtaken by the lure of a huge pile of wedge. Arsene was right yesterday saying that we could not hold on to all our players and still play comparatively low wages. There is no reason a young player should be loyal to a club these days when he can earn 3 times as much somewhere else, the system is unfair and should be regulated but it won't be so we have to live with it. Levy needs to let go of some of that massive pile of money he has saved on the transfer market and make sure that players like Dele have absolutely no reason to look anywhere else, or the foundations of the new Spurs will have been built on a swamp and we'll become the Everton of London, comfortably mid-table, never winning anything and the occasional Europa League adventure.

The 'Title Race' is IS on, but probably next season.
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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Costa and Kante need just one more yellow to get two match bans - I think they are both on 9 and 10 is the magic number?
That time frame has lapsed now,so costa can keeping going,how has escaped not having two yellows in several matches astounds me.
 
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Basskadet

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Costa has been a passenger for them for a while now anyway. They've been relying on Hazard till now and, annoyingly, Willian has suddenly stepped up.

However, imagine the final day if they draw 1 of their next 3 and we keep winning. Who'd have ever thought we could go into a final day with that sort of chance to win a title? Can't see Chelsea dropping anything to Sunderland sadly, but it would still be exciting as hell!

@Dorset - pretty sure Champions League is nailed on now. There are 4 games left and United are in 5th, 12pts behind. That means we would need to lose all our remaining fixtures and Man Utd, Liverpool AND City would ALL have to win their remaining fixtures, and even then it would take a huge swing in goal difference. Face it, we've qualified for UCL again.
 
Dorset

Dorset

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That time frame has lapsed now,so costa can keeping going,how has escaped not having two yellows in several matches astounds me.
I thought the New Year amnesty was for up to 5 cards but the 10 card one stayed? Dunno, it's all a bit confusing.
 
Chavhater01

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I thought the New Year amnesty was for up to 5 cards but the 10 card one stayed? Dunno, it's all a bit confusing.

10 yellows elapsed on the 9th of April mate. Those cheating chavvy cunts have been able to dive and hack away without consequence for a good few weeks and my have they made hay!
 
conor1

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Who thought Boro would get a point against City? They even took the lead twice.

Pundits keep pointing at Chelsea's "easy" run-in, but i maintain that our harder games will make sure we keep our eye on the ball. I just have a suspicion 1 or 2 Chavs might think the titles already won and these teams will be a walk over, but under-estimate at your peril.
They celebrated their win against Everton like they had the title sewn up. Granted, it was a big result for them but I just want us to make the fuckers work for it, at least.
 
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