Liverpool - H (PL) 12:30 Sat 15th September 2018

[J.spurs]

Its a tad reactionary but we have at least 5 players on the books as useless as an ashtray in the carolina`s last night:janssen,Nkoudou,Llorente,sissoko and aurier.Yes we try and support all players but really those 5 I would sigh if they are even on the bench,ok 2 are completely gone (but not sold) the other 3 will start some games and truth be told,thats not good enough if you are chasing the title or trophies.

As someone sitting right smack in the middle of the northern of the two Carolinas, I can confirm. After watching that, its a fucking shame the electricity has stayed on here. I'm not going to get too panicky at this point--we have one brilliant win under our belts, and I think four in a row coming up that we ought to be able to deal with. Poch is going to have to do some serious man management over the next few days though, bc that wasn't anywhere near good enough from several players. It's hard to avoid the early take, though, that Liverpool are simply much better at this point, and as you say, things look a bit stale.

 

[Havocc]

Well, that was BS. Time to give Gazziniga a go. Positive from Moura and Lamela.

Hate the bindippers even more now.

 

[J.spurs]

OK, re-watching Mane's challenge on Son, whether or not it would have been a fair result is irrelevant--I mean the way things were going, Kane probably would have mullahed it into row ZZ. But penalties don't get any more blatant than that. Holy shit.

 

[skiathospurs]

As someone sitting right smack in the middle of the northern of the two Carolinas, I can confirm. After watching that, its a fucking shame the electricity has stayed on here. I'm not going to get too panicky at this point--we have one brilliant win under our belts, and I think four in a row coming up that we ought to be able to deal with. Poch is going to have to do some serious man management over the next few days though, bc that wasn't anywhere near good enough from several players. It's hard to avoid the early take, though, that Liverpool are simply much better at this point, and as you say, things look a bit stale.

most worrying is we are at that the two games a week stage of the season,CL midweek,then league cup week after,playing a PL club at home at a neutral ground,lose that its really all down to the fa cup for silverware by end of sept.Tues will be an interesting line up for sure.Hopefully its a wake up call because except moura most of our best eleven were pants today,kane,eriksen,back 4,dier,winks really who played well??

Stay safe there J

 

[Chavhater01]

It’s really just a continuation of how we’ve been playing this season, other than a Kane-Moura inspired 2nd half against Utd, we’ve looked laboured and stale all season.

Moura continues to impress, Moussa was decent for an hour, other than that Vert and Toby had their work cut out due to our midfield continuously being bypassed and Tripps and Rose constantly being caught out of position.

Big month ahead, need to get our shit together, coz we’re too good to keep serving up this dross.

 

[Yid]

Well, yes I am livid, the performance on the whole was insipid but what worried me more was that Poch.... had no answers or even the option of making the team ask a question.

Dier.... was uterly dire. I mean Sisoko shit.
The CB's were exposed time and time again and because they are fucking mustard we got away with only conseeding 2 goals.
Winks drove us forwards like we needed but just ran into walls as it didnt seem he had an outlet.
Was eriksen playing? Maybe him and Kane had a nice day at the beach?
We look a little lost and like we need to regroup. We've only played 4 fuxking games though, so we should still be absolutely buzzing.

I'm pissed I hate these cunts.

 

[Chavhater01]

Dier.... was uterly dire.

I’ve had an issue with him for a while now, I don’t actually get what he excels at, yes he’s a useful utility player in terms of the positions he can play but all he seems to do is pass it back or sideways and struggles to keep up with the pace of the game. He has his moments and games but as a starter for a team that has finished 3rd, 2nd, 3rd, i’d expect a lot more. I love Dier, the man but as a footballer, i’m not a fan at all.

 

[Liam]

That's a good early start there @Liam enjoy the game. COYS

Struggled to enjoy it but I'm home having cuddles with my daughter and watching Peppa pig now!

 

[Wotspur]

Before the game I went all girlie , as Big Pat Jennings walked past me with mark Falco , so much I couldn’t even ask for a photo . Then at half time we had Ray Clemenceau on the pitch.
With these two legends at Wmebley , Why. does Poch continue with Vorm ?
Ok their first goal WTf was CE doing Heading is not his forte , but that was pathetic , and how did Vorm mess up so badly frommthe corner . The 2nd goal was Tup other end , so can’t comment on it . Moura had a great chance to score , and Lamella finished from a tight angle .
We all know Son was taken out , just because we’ve been outplayed and gotmwhat we deserved , We should have had a penalty , that might have resulted in a draw .
Oh well. Onwards upwards. Tuesday It’s Milan , onky sold 1,800 of 5,000 tickets and I reckon at least 100 are no longer able to go , so should anyone live near or want to go , I can get some for 20 , maybe free and beers .
Moura was good as was Lamella Winks tried but wasn’t match fit to play against LFC

 

[Glenjamin]

All I can simply say is.....

You don't shoot, you don't score. We need to rifle a few shots at keepers.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

I’ve had an issue with him for a while now, I don’t actually get what he excels at, yes he’s a useful utility player in terms of the positions he can play but all he seems to do is pass it back or sideways and struggles to keep up with the pace of the game. He has his moments and games but as a starter for a team that has finished 3rd, 2nd, 3rd, i’d expect a lot more. I love Dier, the man but as a footballer, i’m not a fan at all.

He isn't any beter than a good/average footballer. We might have missed a trick when United offered 50M a year ago.

Makes far too many basic errors to be a world class player.

 

[Liam]

Couldn't be bothered to post anything last night as was knackered after the drive there and back and gutted by another toothless performance.

So, where to start with this one.... Quiet simply not good enough. We have started this season slower than the last few I feel which was covered by the fact we won our first three and beat an even worse than us Man U away. We had a 25 minute spell against Fulham where we looked good and a good second half against United at OT but we've been shite other than that. I think Poch needs to work out his best 11 fast and fill those 11 with confidence then tell the players who aren't in that 11 it's up to them to displace them. We are offering no cover for the defence from midfield whether we play Dier, Wanyama, or Dembele there it doesn't matter none of them have looked good. I don't think Dembele looks fit at all but was better yesterday than was against United and Watford for the 60 mins he played but still nowhere near his best. Both Trips and Rose left Toby and Vert exposed on many occasions and Rose especially seemed to play like tghe old Rose before Poch came along rememebr the one who had no positional sense at all. I lost count of the amount of times he got caught in a position where he was neither pressing their players or covering the space they can run in to leaving the everyone else to do the hard work, one time he just casually jogged back like it didn't matter at all.

Where the fuck has Harry Kane gone? I mean you know thaat guy who pulled players abut with movement that creates space for others? The one that peppers th goal with shot from all angles! The o e that scares the opposition.... Eriksen was quiete but not terrible,

I think the issues of this team look collective though rather than individual. It's as if they all forgot how to play together. Very few positives to take from yesterday aside from at least it wasn't four or five for Liverpool.

I will say that I was impressed with Lamela when he came on again, and Son when he came on too, and again the only player that started who looked good from start to finish was Moura. It seems to me the players that want to prove themselves are playing well and the one's that are Poch's trusted players are letting us down. Can't blame the centre backs too muc as they have so much to do when we have so little of the ball and they get no help from defensive midfield or wing backs... Time for something to change, fuck knows what though.

 

[skiathospurs]

Struggled to enjoy it but I'm home having cuddles with my daughter and watching Peppa pig now!

 

[Wotspur]

Liam better not watch this Peppa Pig with your daughter
How about we play Rose Jan Toby and Trips ,,with Sanchez in front of them in Diers position

 

[Liam]

Liam better not watch this Peppa Pig with your daughter
How about we play Rose Jan Toby and Trips ,,with Sanchez in front of them in Diers position

Dunno what to with the those players mate. Don't the CB's can be blamed when the players around them were so poor. Dunno if Dainson can play there or not but something needs to be done. Not sure my daughter listens to anything on Peppa pig, she just sits there pointing at the telly saying "peppaaaaaa piiiig"

 

[Dorset]

It was another disappointment, the first time we have lost 2 Premier League games on the trot since May 2016, bummer. Blaming Vorm is dumb, I see the Twatterati is saying has to go, but when Hugo is crocked he plays innit? Gazza has only played one game for us so he ain't really an option - or is he? Dunno.

There were some mistakes made all over the field, Vorm can not be blamed for everything. Eric Dier was a bit careless, and I agree with other geezers here, he ain't what he used to be. Even Toby got sloppy a couple of times, the mighty Dembele cocked up a couple of passes. Harry Kane is not at his majestic best, but he is a human bean and we all know he has rough patches, if you like sticking needles in your eyes you can have a look at that other place and see how 'shite' he has been for the past 4 seasons - even though he scored 105 PL goals in those 4 years,, he'll soon click back into form.

Looking on the bright side, seeing Harry Winks, Erik Lamela, Sonny and Victor Wanyama back has got to be good news going forward. Winks and Wanyama looked a bit rusty, but they would innit? Lucas Moura continues to be brilliant, Jan Vertonghen had a good game I think as did Christian Eriksen and Kieran Trippier. Even brighter was the goal from Lamela, nice! The goons and United are still below us.

Losing to the Dippers is hard to take, but hate them or despise them, they are the best side in the PL at the moment and they only managed to beat us by one. A couple of mistakes cost us the game and I'm sure the Poch will sort that bollocks out.

A nice win on Tuesday and we'll all be happy bunnies again.

 

[deejbah]

We were below par but that finish by Lamela was fucking incredible. Unbelievable technique!

 

[corroded]

Whilst I find it hard to take, and that it's not all doom and gloom... and agree, solely blaming Vorm is dumb... Vorm did absolutely mess up for both those goals.

I think it highlights just how important Lloris actually is.

Dier had a bit of a shocker, I think in a few weeks we'll see Wanyama take back over here with any luck... we're just missing a bit of steel in the spine, and having a rusty Toby, a super rusty Vorm, and Dier playing suicide balls isn't helping.

 

[skiathospurs]

We were below par but that finish by Lamela was fucking incredible. Unbelievable technique!

Pretty lazy defending though,watch again and look at van dick,arms behind back turns side on to avoid getting hit by the ball.Not taking anything away from Erik,good effort to even get anything on target from that tight angle and ball dropping so.

 

[J.spurs]

Pretty lazy defending though,watch again and look at van dick,arms behind back turns side on to avoid getting hit by the ball.

Yeah, tbh their defenders were all over the place for the goal and throughout the final five minutes. If we'd gotten the pen and gotten out of there with a draw, we'd be hearing a lot more about that I think. Nobody'd be talking about how shit we were, it would be about how they're bottlers. They got away with one.