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NiceOneCyril

Player in Training.
It's all in place to go all the way, players, manager, attitudes. It was last year too, just a poor 10 minutes against Juve stopped us winning the whole thing in the CL, I'm convinced (could do with City getting knocked out of that though). Harry is the glue.
 
deejbah

deejbah

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'undreds of people were saying he was just good, never world class, remember in the place that time forgot all the crap about is he good enough. I don't believe that when he started out that anyone thought he would be as good as he has turned out, as @skiathospurs said it's down to attitude and hard graft - Harry is the footy version of Johnny Wilkinson, the harder they work, the better they get.
This is true but those people had hardly seen him play, almost certainly never seen him in training and have a shit understanding of player development. A big part of the issue with young players is people's fixed perceptions about what a good player looks like and expecting kids or teenagers to fit certain molds. Also there can be a lot of focus on what a player can't do, rather than what they can do, which can leave certain types of players behind.

You're definitely right about the second part - picking out kids at age 9 or 10 and declaring them to be future world class players is a fool's errand and Kane certainly seems like a player who had a good understanding of the game and good technical ability but just kept working so hard to improve those but also bring his physical capability up to another level to take full advantage of those traits.
 
Wotspur

Wotspur

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Many years ago , 25ish I used to drink locally and a mates nephew was at Spurs academy , where he was from 8-16 . He got two home tickets for every game , and I was given them and went with his grandad . Unfortunately he got such a bad injury , he was released , wen t to Reading but never recovered . After playing and managing at Walton Casuals , Luke Dowling became Watford Sporting director and is now at Notts Forest .......if only I knew that he’d been at Watford , I’d hope tickets wou,d never have been an issue .
I’m now hoping Forest get promoted
 
skiathospurs

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This is true but those people had hardly seen him play, almost certainly never seen him in training and have a shit understanding of player development. A big part of the issue with young players is people's fixed perceptions about what a good player looks like and expecting kids or teenagers to fit certain molds. Also there can be a lot of focus on what a player can't do, rather than what they can do, which can leave certain types of players behind.

You're definitely right about the second part - picking out kids at age 9 or 10 and declaring them to be future world class players is a fool's errand and Kane certainly seems like a player who had a good understanding of the game and good technical ability but just kept working so hard to improve those but also bring his physical capability up to another level to take full advantage of those traits.
The good thing but extremely misleading from our academy(cant speak for other clubs),is we dont place an emphasis on results.They are more concerned with style of play and development instead of trying to win rather meaningless youth cups and leagues.So players play in various roles and positions,not always their strongest,for instance onomah was a deeper CM in the youth set up and his few times in the 1st team he played wider,probably damage limitation and fact we have pretty good central midfielders.My point is you cant judge purely on what they do and how they play for the U23s.More about your point of what fans focus on,everyone loves a skillful flashy player,its why people are still gagging for edwards and slag winks off,the areas where hard graft and tackling arent so easy on the eye means skipp,winks get a tough ride because alot of their play goes under the radar.I would name it "john Barnes syndrome" where he played more games than he should for england on the back of one exceptional goal against Brazil which people always went on about,more defensive players dont get the same recognition for their side.
 
skiathospurs

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Spurs U-19 have been drawn away to Porto in the last 16. Match to be played on 12 or 13 March.
 
skiathospurs

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Porto v Spurs (U-19s) - Champions Youth League (Round of 16) today at 11am BT SPORT if you are able to watch
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

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Porto v Spurs (U-19s) - Champions Youth League (Round of 16) today at 11am BT SPORT if you are able to watch
We lost 2-0 unfortunately and go out. Same result as last year. Let's hope we draw them in the Big boys version and reverse that score.
 
skiathospurs

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keeper brandon austin called up to england U20 squad.
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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Jack Roles has signed a 2 year contract.
Good lad,was out of contract,probably go on loan if he doesnt do the asian tour,chance to impress.
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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What are our thoughts on this kid? Don’t know much about him
Honestly,we are now in the top 10 richest clubs,huge revenue earners,CL finalists,so for all our smugness about how our academy produces and city,chelsea,arsenal etc dont,circumstances now dictate we have too much to lose to gamble on untried youth to an extent.How do you get in above son,eriksen,moura,sissoko,lamela.....it is a miracle winks has broken through.And its nothing to do with talent,opportunities will be few and far between in the 1st team especially in midfield.Something amazing or lucky has to happen for a george marsh to make it as we are now,hard enough for a £30m player to make it nowadays at spurs.
He is a decent versatile player,I think our days of trialing youth are much harder now with expectations,he will either have to prove everybody wrong or poch right if he uses him.So tough for our kids now to gain chances.Let alone take them.

The positive is,we set the bar higher now,any break throughs will have to be really good.Not saying this kid wont,but chances are against him.if he was that good we would have heard a lot more about him,not that that worked out for edwards!!
 
Don Diaz

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From the club official site (below) - this is likely where our up and coming lads will get their opportunity. Skipp has probably passed the exam already, maybe Amos as well.

Our Development Squad will compete in the EFL Trophy again next season.
It will be our third season in the competition - where we field an Under-21 team - also known as the Checkatrade Trophy. Last season we progressed from the group stage after a win at Gillingham, draw at Crawley and narrow loss at eventual-winners Portsmouth. We went out in the second round after a loss at Oxford.
We are one of 16 teams invited into the competition with Liverpool and Manchester United making their first appearance in 2019/20.
The competition is initially split into northern and south sections with 32 teams in each section in eight groups of four. Invited clubs play regional group games away from home with the top two teams from each group advancing to the knockout stages.
The tournament goes national at the quarter-final stage (round four) and culminates with the final at Wembley Stadium - over 85,000 fans saw Pompey beat Sunderland in last season's final.
The draw for the group stage will take place in July, with the first round of fixtures scheduled to take place on the week commencing Monday 2 September.
 
skiathospurs

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We are pleased to announce the appointments of Matt Taylor, Ryan Mason and Nigel Gibbs to our Academy coaching team, with existing members of staff Chris Riley and Troy Archibald-Henville assuming revised roles to support the older players in the Academy.
An experienced former midfielder, Matt has enjoyed an extensive playing career that has taken him across the Premier League and Football League structure, representing Luton Town, Portsmouth, Bolton Wanderers, West Ham United, Burnley, Northampton Town and, most recently, Swindon Town, where he served as a player-coach. The 37-year-old joins us full-time as our new Under-18s Coach.
Former England international midfielder Ryan needs no introduction. A product of our Academy system, he established himself as a key player in our first team under Mauricio Pochettino, making 70 appearances and scoring four goals, before joining Hull City in 2016. Following his injury-enforced retirement as a player, the 28-year-old has been regularly involved alongside our Academy staff on youth team matchdays over the last year while working through his coaching badges. He now officially joins us as Academy Coach, with responsibility for our Under-19 UEFA Youth League side.
Former Watford defender and experienced coach Nigel returns to us as Assistant Head of Player Development, Under-17 to Under-23. Nigel has previously worked with us in a similar role, around senior coaching appointments at Leeds United, Millwall, Swansea City and Reading.
Chris is a former apprentice and young professional with us, who returned a number of years ago as a sports science intern and became the fitness coach for our Under-18s. He is now working his way through his coaching licences and will support our coaching team alongside his existing role.
Fellow Academy product Troy returned to us last year in a part-time coaching role, having represented Exeter City, Swindon Town and Carlisle United during his professional playing career. He now moves to a full-time position, where he will continue to work with our younger age groups but will additionally be responsible for taking senior Academy players from the Under-18s and Under-23s under his wing in a pastoral development role.
John McDermott, Head of Academy Coaching and Player Development, said of the new appointments: “We have always tried to assemble a blend of staff who know what the demands of the game are at the highest level. It’s also important to have a mix of experience through internal promotions and external appointments, including coaches who have recently retired and are current with the modern player, plus coaches who have been in the cauldron of professional football – not just Academy football – and can pass on their wisdom of what the real game expects in terms of behaviour and performance. All five of these members of staff understand the incredible standards set for young and senior players at this club and they will be invaluable in driving our players to become the best young men and players that they can be. Four of these staff have spent many years at the Club and know how we function. Only Matt is completely new to the fold, so the experience for the players will be seamless.”
 
Glenjamin

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We are pleased to announce the appointments of Matt Taylor, Ryan Mason and Nigel Gibbs to our Academy coaching team, with existing members of staff Chris Riley and Troy Archibald-Henville assuming revised roles to support the older players in the Academy.
An experienced former midfielder, Matt has enjoyed an extensive playing career that has taken him across the Premier League and Football League structure, representing Luton Town, Portsmouth, Bolton Wanderers, West Ham United, Burnley, Northampton Town and, most recently, Swindon Town, where he served as a player-coach. The 37-year-old joins us full-time as our new Under-18s Coach.
Former England international midfielder Ryan needs no introduction. A product of our Academy system, he established himself as a key player in our first team under Mauricio Pochettino, making 70 appearances and scoring four goals, before joining Hull City in 2016. Following his injury-enforced retirement as a player, the 28-year-old has been regularly involved alongside our Academy staff on youth team matchdays over the last year while working through his coaching badges. He now officially joins us as Academy Coach, with responsibility for our Under-19 UEFA Youth League side.
Former Watford defender and experienced coach Nigel returns to us as Assistant Head of Player Development, Under-17 to Under-23. Nigel has previously worked with us in a similar role, around senior coaching appointments at Leeds United, Millwall, Swansea City and Reading.
Chris is a former apprentice and young professional with us, who returned a number of years ago as a sports science intern and became the fitness coach for our Under-18s. He is now working his way through his coaching licences and will support our coaching team alongside his existing role.
Fellow Academy product Troy returned to us last year in a part-time coaching role, having represented Exeter City, Swindon Town and Carlisle United during his professional playing career. He now moves to a full-time position, where he will continue to work with our younger age groups but will additionally be responsible for taking senior Academy players from the Under-18s and Under-23s under his wing in a pastoral development role.
John McDermott, Head of Academy Coaching and Player Development, said of the new appointments: “We have always tried to assemble a blend of staff who know what the demands of the game are at the highest level. It’s also important to have a mix of experience through internal promotions and external appointments, including coaches who have recently retired and are current with the modern player, plus coaches who have been in the cauldron of professional football – not just Academy football – and can pass on their wisdom of what the real game expects in terms of behaviour and performance. All five of these members of staff understand the incredible standards set for young and senior players at this club and they will be invaluable in driving our players to become the best young men and players that they can be. Four of these staff have spent many years at the Club and know how we function. Only Matt is completely new to the fold, so the experience for the players will be seamless.”
All things considered this is the best thing happening at Tottenham this window.

Over the moon to see Ryan back properly. He'll work wonders with the lads, and he deserves nothing but success. Fair play to him he's been through alot for a relatively young man.
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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All things considered this is the best thing happening at Tottenham this window.

Over the moon to see Ryan back properly. He'll work wonders with the lads, and he deserves nothing but success. Fair play to him he's been through alot for a relatively young man.
Its a unique chance for him,career ended too soon,but a chance to really get into football coaching for the next 40 years.Seems to have a good head,and with mcdermott and poch`s gang,no better mentors out there.
 
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