Aston Villa (H) - PL 1 January 2023, 2:00pm.

[Yid]

Notice the Spece cheer...!!!

 

[ClemFandango]

We've managed to make a poor Villa side look half decent. I just don't know what the answer is at the moment - aside from the obvious new owner.

 

[Yid]

We've managed to make a poor Villa side look half decent. I just don't know what the answer is at the moment - aside from the obvious new owner.

Mate the gaffer is a one domensional show pony... he isn't a fit for this tight fisted club... end fucking of.

 

[Dave]

I'm fed up with Conte.....If you compare the players attitude & aggression at the scum, Newcastle or Man U, there's no comparison. Throwing more money to Conte isn't going to solve anything. He's not even getting the basics right imo...

 

[ClemFandango]

Mate the gaffer is a one domensional show pony... he isn't a fit for this tight fisted club... end fucking of.

Spot on - as usual. There's part of you that doesn't want to lose him because he really is a world class manager, like it or not, but it's just not working at the moment.

To go behind for ten games in a row is just unacceptable.

What makes this whole situation even more irritating though is that you just know that if Conte walks, and that's looking more likely by the day, Levy will just throw money at Poch to come back, which he will, and everything will be roses again and ENIC won't be going anywhere.

 

[J.spurs]

Mate the gaffer is a one domensional show pony... he isn't a fit for this tight fisted club... end fucking of.

Agree. Time to go, IMO.

 

[Yid]

Spot on - as usual. There's part of you that doesn't want to lose him because he really is a world class manager, like it or not, but it's just not working at the moment.

To go behind for ten games in a row is just unacceptable.

What makes this whole situation even more irritating though is that you just know that if Conte walks, and that's looking more likely by the day, Levy will just throw money at Poch to come back, which he will, and everything will be roses again and ENIC won't be going anywhere.

Part of me wants Poch to have more integrity than that...

The scenario goes like this... I check my lottery ticket from last night, realise I've won a sqijillion quid, purchase the club, uncover that Levy and Enic were neck deep in some kind of corruption, sue the living shit out of them for the full price of the club, sell it to the fans and refinance the team with Poch at the helm...

I'll check them after tea lads and get straight on it in the morning...

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

I’m sorry but Conte must take the blame for these performances. No plan B, no youth development, no spirit and no thought of making changes until it’s too late.

If Levy isn’t on the phone to Pochettino tonight then I’d be surprised. There really seems no point in extending Conte’s contract. His style clearly does not work for this squad.

 

[J.spurs]

Players, especially veteran players, should be taken to account when they fuck up individually. But the bottom line is that we seem to have no idea what to do when the hoof it up to the front three approach (which as I’ve said ain’t my cup of tea in the first place) isn’t on. We are very easy to defend against.

 

[BrooklynYid]

If you have a squad of good attacking players and shit defenders, you play attacking football. But we do the opposite. I think Conte would rather lose 2 nil than win 4-2. We are tough to watch. Wish Boley would have bought us instead of the Chavs. We are screwed.in the future.

 

[ClemFandango]

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

If you have a squad of good attacking players and shit defenders, you play attacking football. But we do the opposite. I think Conte would rather lose 2 nil than win 4-2. We are tough to watch. Wish Boley would have bought us instead of the Chavs. We are screwed.in the future.

Yep, and further to that when you have a generational striker your entire plan should be built around creating as many chances for that player as possible.

Not having him drop deeper and deeper to find the fucking pill.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

What does that fucking mean?

 

[Yid]

So business... thats what the deranged little cunt is supposed to be good at yeah...?

He has an asset worth more than any other like for like in Harry Kane (maybe that bloke hulk cunt is better) and what he fails to do is captlitalise on that asset. He hasn't made the best of it, he hasn't sold it. What he has done is devalued it by letting everything else around it decay and devalue.

Nice house in a shit neighbourhood... low value.

Shit house in a nice neighbourhood... high value.

Nice house in a nice neighbourhood... Best value.

Same analogy could be used for the stadium as that is the best example of a football ground, potentially in the world... and it's filled with abject mediocrity...

I'm no financial guru like the pip squeek or the dark lord, but even I can see that investing more cash should reap greater rewards.

 

[ClemFandango]

What does that fucking mean?

If I was a gambling man, I'd say it was a dig at the club and a perceived lack of ambition.

 

[J.spurs]

What does that fucking mean?

He also said that we need to spend £70/80 million per window to build a foundation to win.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

If I was a gambling man, I'd say it was a dig at the club and a perceived lack of ambition.

No doubt but seriously, has the guy no self-awareness? Fans aren’t stupid. He can blame lack of investment all he likes (and to an extent this is true) but surely he has to understand that the lack of ambition he shows on the park is a major problem. The way we play is the issue. It’s an insult to the supporter base every time he wheels out the same excuses about squad investment.

 

[ClemFandango]

No doubt but seriously, has the guy no self-awareness? Fans aren’t stupid. He can blame lack of investment all he likes (and to an extent this is true) but surely he has to understand that the lack of ambition he shows on the park is a major problem. The way we play is the issue. It’s an insult to the supporter base every time he wheels out the same excuses about squad investment.

I've been looking at a lot of the comments about the game and almost to a tune everyone is, again, blaming the lack of investment, Enic and Levy and trying to steer the blame away from Conte and it's rather irritating.

When we're going behind in ten consecutive games, that's not down to Enic, Lewis, Levy or anyone else, that's down to the coaching team and, by definition, the manager.

Looking at the fixtures, I do wonder if we'll reach a tipping point sooner rather than later though.

We're at home to Portsmouth in the FA Cup next Saturday then we've got the North London Derby and, after that, it's away to City, home to Fulham and then home to City in the next game on the 5th of February..

If we continue to perform poorly over those fixtures and we're around mid-table come February then it's certainly more than feasible that Levy could act.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

On a brighter note for me personally, it was my first time in the new stadium today.

Never seen anything like it. Incredible.

 

[Glenjamin]

On a brighter note for me personally, it was my first time in the new stadium today.

Never seen anything like it. Incredible.

It is immense! Did you hit the cheese room?

 

[USspur]

same as before.

blah blah fucking blah

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

It is immense! Did you hit the cheese room?

No cheese room for me mate. And I will also say that the One Of Our Own drop they serve is horse piss. Or what I imagine horse piss to taste like.

 

[Style And Glory]

Like the vast majority here & Spurs fans in general, it's currently a hard watch with Conte at the helm.

Despite that, & for one reason only, I kinda want him to remain as he is the only one that can hold Levy accountable: to do what Levy promised & back him. Conte doesn't take positions like this without agreed assurances.

So if Levy sacks him (another serial winner victim) I suspect there will be an uproar as there will not be another world class manager to hire. In other words, if Conte can't get what he or the team needs, who will? There would be no reason why another respectable manager will take the position other than "yes men". Levy would have made it clear to everyone that his word means nothing.

Levy has a decision to make & it's huge. BUT, he has a card up his sleeve...

...And I fear for Poch because he's available for hire & I believe he is genuine & loves this club.
He could be used by Levy as a pawn / shield to protect himself as appointing him will appease a large portion of the fan base. This would give Levy a 'get out of jail free card' & then the Levy / ENIC cycle rev's up again ad infinitum.

IMHO, Conte has the means to break this cycle. He either gets the players he wants & the side suits his needs & performs better or Spurs are doomed to a life of upper mid-table mediocrity while ENIC continues making money without great expense.

 

[ClemFandango]

This is why there could be a decision on the horizon within the next month I feel. Unless Conte has given assurances in private that he will definitely sign a new deal, the club aren't going to back him until he agrees something, but then he's not going to agree anything unless they back him either I suppose.

So what do we do ?.

As I said above, I think if we're around mid-table after the second City match then something will happen because Levy will want Champions League qualification again above everything and, as you say, he has his Pochettino card to play so I don't think he'll have any qualms at all about sacking Conte if he feels there's enough of the season left to turn things around.

 

[Yid]

Why would Poch come back... what has changed...?

 

[J.spurs]

This is why there could be a decision on the horizon within the next month I feel. Unless Conte has given assurances in private that he will definitely sign a new deal, the club aren't going to back him until he agrees something, but then he's not going to agree anything unless they back him either I suppose.

So what do we do ?.

As I said above, I think if we're around mid-table after the second City match then something will happen because Levy will want Champions League qualification again above everything and, as you say, he has his Pochettino card to play so I don't think he'll have any qualms at all about sacking Conte if he feels there's enough of the season left to turn things around.

I’d hope it would happen with time left in the transfer window.

 

[ClemFandango]

Why would Poch come back... what has changed...?

Well Levy is still a cunt, so there's that

But as has been said, I do think Poch has a genuine love for the club and would want the chance to try and finish what he started and win something with us. I think this time around he'd have the slight advantage in any negotiations as well because he'd surely realise that Levy would need him to appease the fans if he did sack Conte or "mutually agree" to let him go.

 

[Yid]

Maybe Conte is being Levied...?

Maybe Levy is trying to piss him off enough to walk and not have to pay him off...

Hey, whatever, I'm bored of the merry-go-round this club is incessantly riding...