skiathospurs
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Just saying,possesion and shots means nothing if the score doesnt go with them.
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If that's his approach--and I agree it will be--we better win sharpish. Johan Cruyff said Mourinho was a results manager, not a football manager. Jose took that as a compliment (though of course Cruyff didn't mean it that way.) At bare minimum, you're going to be a "results manager" you better get results.
I think that many, possibly including me, wouldn't be completely happy with results if they're won playing dreadful football. It's a debate we may well be having over the next season or so. Of course, it doesn't help that I just don't like Mourinho, and probably wouldn't even if his football was easy on the eye.
Still, we're on a good run, this is going to be a very interesting transfer window.
The divisiveness about poch or mourinho,pressing or low block and counter,its just opinion,I dont really understand people losing their minds over if other people agree or not.Entertainment or results (ofc you can have both) if supporter A wants this and supporter B the opposite,whats the big deal??I want entertainment,its what i grew up,with why I played and watch the game,I want enjoyment,yes winning cups would make me happy,yes winning games makes you happy,but there is something more intangible about sport for myself.If I wanted trophies just so I could banter others I could be spurs and celtic,bayern barca,but what joy would I get personally ffrom bantering dortmund fans,its happened again?Just my personal connection to a club for nearly half a century,we are what we are,if people want us to become 2004 chelsea so we can take the piss out of other fans,it actually makes me sad because it should be about more than a quick wank over an open top bus parade.The bolded bit.
There are big debates about it on other forums.
The Mourinho Maraschino Cherry types do not care what they see as long as we win. They'll gladly sit on top of those results all day long.
My position is that football has various aspects.
In a nutshell, on one side there's the cerebral / tactical part & then there's the instinctive / creative / skillful side.
Innovation can occur on both sides & that's where things can get interesting.
But since football is a game, I believe it should also be fun. Whether to play or to watch.
I can appreciate what Mourinho does (to an extent) because of the former. His teams are disciplined & mainly cohesive in their approach. There's some order. & semblance of a plan. Many times I'm intrigued by which plan will be utilized & how it is to be executed. There can be beauty in that too..
But if it is drab, out of synch & poorly executed, kick & run, it can be a very hard watch.
We've had a few of those BUT, for me, it's still early days.
Mourinho is pragmatic. He knows what he has to work with & does what he can but always erring on the side of caution.
In many of our games we have simply sat back, abandoning possession, & absorbing their pressure.
There's a time & place for that depending on the opposition,
But as a fan, I want to be entertained.
And as a Spurs fan, I grew up being entertained.
And I hope that continues. I expect a dose of something other than just countering.. I like the flare. The bravado & passion that comes with it. The fly by the seat of your pants approach works for me too. I'd prefer to win 5-4 than 1 nil with 20% possession & scoring through an own goal.
At this time, I'll take the wins in the manner that we've had. There has to be a foundation established & it looks like he's doing it.
My hope is that it evolves into something much more.
Something that excites & can be proud of.
The other night I watched us beat Leeds in the Cup in 99. Ginola was magic. That's what I miss....the magic of a Ginola, a Bale, a Hoddle, even the excitement of Lennon skinning a full back....
If Jose had been manager when we beat Wigan 9-1, at 3-1, he would gave taken Defoe off and brought on Bassong to make sure the points were safe....that's not our way. But I dont blame Jose...I didnt blame AVB, the blame firmly lies with the chairman who employs these managers and by doing so, is clearly out of touch with what the Spurs fans want and fucking deserve.