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skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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Must be worth the money eh?
hmmmmmm,clear as mud,we dont even know the total cost of the build,whether that includes hotels,housing,other bits of high st,how much we paid for pre-end of construction (i mean we bought a shitload of load of land,cranes etc,before loans were announced).We will never see the cost of the NFL add-ons IMO,Did it cost 50m or 200m?income from NFL and match days,we will probably never know the amounts.As for will it be re-invested on THFC,I am hugely sceptical.Worth it for ENIC?definetly,worth it for thfc and the fans who ultimately fund the project?somehow I doubt it.
 
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Player in Training.

As reported in the Evening Standard, it was announced in April that Saracens had struck a five-year deal with Spurs to play their annual ‘Big Game’ at the club’s new £1billion arena, which will also host NFL matches in future.
"I’m really looking forward to going down there, the boys have been down there, and they’ve said it’s worth every penny of the billion pounds it cost," Sanderson told the Evening Standard.
"When we started using the bigger stadiums people said we wouldn’t get any crowds, then we started getting 60,000, 80,000, and these younger lads that are coming through – they won’t get that kind of experience - for some of them it’ll be the biggest game they’ll play ever."
 
Yid

Yid

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It's crazy how technical it all is... its fucking brilliant.
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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Some geek knowledge for you,the stratos lounge is so named because the bloke who named clouds was from Tottenham.

 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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A Planning Application was submitted yesterday to go to 62,200,


The seating bowl has been the subject of a final review in conjunction with Building Control and the final as-built
seating layout has added a small number of seats. There has also been a minor design change to the south stand
gangways that enabled a small increase in capacity and a reassessment of the sightlines from seats located
behind the large video screens to the north stand upper tier. All of these have contributed to the additional
seats. The additional capacity has been checked against egress principles set out in the Green Guide 5th Edition
and has been agreed with Building Control.
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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This is good news if true.Though I would still like to know how much the nfl add ons cost (retractable pitch,basement works for nfl dressing rooms,south podium for the pitch storage etc etc),after al,the money is leveraged against the football club through secured bank loans.These add ons meant we were nearly a full season late moving in,had to demolish 6k seats for a season (to accomodate a new building schedule far more complicated) ,and probably cost in the 100s of millions.Which makes a few million a match revenue for 2 matches a year not the most sense,but the end game is either an NFL franchise playing there or american naming rights from the exposure or both??I fear a franchise as if it follows the stadium model the football (real football not egg chasing) will be fronting the money for the gamble.Cant buy a right back when you need to upgrade your offensive line stuff.


It is understood that the NFL pay a flat rental fee to use the stadium for each game, but all of the food and drink net income plus the merchandising profit goes to the football club. Bottoms Up Beer, who provide the technology that allows each pint of beer to be filled from the bottom, claimed last week that Spurs set a new European record for the sales of beer at the first game between the Raiders and Bear with £1m alone taken in from those drink sales.

With gate receipts, it has been reported that, similar to what Spurs did at Wembley, the home NFL teams receive the proceeds after giving up one of their own matches to travel over.
That leaves Tottenham with their NFL hosting fee, food and drink income and merchandise sales, all of which brings millions into the club for each game played at the stadium.
 
skiathospurs

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Taken from the THST/THFC board to board meeting

4.3 Future NPD project timings e.g. hotel etc.:
  • PH asked about outstanding future development projects
  • The Sky Walk is due to open in the summer
  • The museum part of the Tottenham Experience has no definitive timeline yet but is being worked on now
  • Planning permission has been granted for the Goods Yard housing development – the Club would approach projects in a sensible time frame
  • Detailed designs are being worked on for the Hotel and this will take a number of months to work through
  • DL clarified that the focus was operationally to bed down the stadium over the coming months. To get the last of the contractors out and to then deal with the Sky Walk
  • The other elements were happening, but not being rushed
4.2 Update on naming rights, sponsorships and commercials:
  • DL felt it was vital to diversify and change revenue streams for the benefit of the football club
  • From the NFL games, all of the net catering revenues went to the football club
  • For other events, there would be different contracts in place but the primary driver was always to make money to invest in the football club
  • Regarding the naming rights, DL once again stated that the Club would only do a deal when it was right for all concerned
  • MC noted that having Tottenham Hotspur Stadium all over the US last weekend wouldn’t have done the brand any harm as it is!
4. Finance
All new debt facilities are secured by the assets of the Club

8.2 Management of standing:
  • The NFL game at the weekend had brought into focus the issue of standing once again with some fans not understanding the legislation and the difference between sports within the same venue. THST is keen to help educate the fan base more as there are genuine misconceptions about the current situation and about the definition of persistent standing
  • THST also felt that the Club had sold the South Stand as the equivalent of the Yellow Wall and needed to understand the implications of that
  • Given the DCMS review published last week into standing was inconclusive, will the Club now be pushing for more evidence and offering to provide that evidence?
  • DMC said that the Club would be approaching DCMS for a discussion on this
  • THST expressed support for this move
  • JB explained that standing at football matches in the top two divisions of football in England and Wales is against the law and that the Club had delivered an all seater stadium in line with that legislation
  • They had risk-assessed the areas where they thought people would be more likely to stand and looked to make those areas safer for those fans. Hence installing integrated bars for 3000 fans in the away section and for 6000 fans at the front of the South Stand. The Club had a duty of care to make those areas safer
  • In those areas, the stewards focus on keeping the aisles and gangways clear, on stopping migration and ensuring capacity isn’t exceeded by others wanting to be in those areas. This is where efforts are concentrated and the local licensing team are happy with how those areas are being managed to date
  • However, both the LBOH and the SGSA need to see the Club actively clamping down on standing throughout the other areas of the stadium – in line with legislation. The license is dependent on the Club actively discouraging standing in other areas
  • JB stressed that the Club and the Stewards are trying to do the right thing for everyone and have refined the approach since the opening few games, where some of the stewards had been somewhat heavy handed in approach
  • There are still pockets of fans in the South Upper who refuse to sit down at any time during any game. This causes issues in terms of the stadium license and with fellow fans who are either forced to also stand or not watch the match
  • JB invited THST to spend a match in the control room to observe fan behaviour and to see the pressure the Club is under from the licensing authorities to discourage standing in the upper South
  • JB was pleased to report that the initial issues with standing in the East Lower and North Lower had eased considerably since stadium opening
  • THST agreed the situation was a difficult one to manage but hadn’t agreed with one particular piece of communication threatening fans with bans if they didn’t comply. THST felt this was overly aggressive in tone and had not been well received by fans who were, after all, paying customers
  • DMC felt the Club had tried asking nicely on several occasions and it hadn’t worked in the South. They were not prepared to compromise fan safety or to lose their stadium license or have the capacity cut
  • THST felt the situation would be better managed were common sense applied, as happened in the old Park Lane stand and that the lack of definition around persistent standing was not helpful
  • All agreed to continue to consider messaging and how to manage this issue moving forwards
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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Founding Member
Taken from the THST/THFC board to board meeting

4.3 Future NPD project timings e.g. hotel etc.:
  • PH asked about outstanding future development projects
  • The Sky Walk is due to open in the summer
  • The museum part of the Tottenham Experience has no definitive timeline yet but is being worked on now
  • Planning permission has been granted for the Goods Yard housing development – the Club would approach projects in a sensible time frame
  • Detailed designs are being worked on for the Hotel and this will take a number of months to work through
  • DL clarified that the focus was operationally to bed down the stadium over the coming months. To get the last of the contractors out and to then deal with the Sky Walk
  • The other elements were happening, but not being rushed
4.2 Update on naming rights, sponsorships and commercials:
  • DL felt it was vital to diversify and change revenue streams for the benefit of the football club
  • From the NFL games, all of the net catering revenues went to the football club
  • For other events, there would be different contracts in place but the primary driver was always to make money to invest in the football club
  • Regarding the naming rights, DL once again stated that the Club would only do a deal when it was right for all concerned
  • MC noted that having Tottenham Hotspur Stadium all over the US last weekend wouldn’t have done the brand any harm as it is!
4. Finance
All new debt facilities are secured by the assets of the Club

8.2 Management of standing:
  • The NFL game at the weekend had brought into focus the issue of standing once again with some fans not understanding the legislation and the difference between sports within the same venue. THST is keen to help educate the fan base more as there are genuine misconceptions about the current situation and about the definition of persistent standing
  • THST also felt that the Club had sold the South Stand as the equivalent of the Yellow Wall and needed to understand the implications of that
  • Given the DCMS review published last week into standing was inconclusive, will the Club now be pushing for more evidence and offering to provide that evidence?
  • DMC said that the Club would be approaching DCMS for a discussion on this
  • THST expressed support for this move
  • JB explained that standing at football matches in the top two divisions of football in England and Wales is against the law and that the Club had delivered an all seater stadium in line with that legislation
  • They had risk-assessed the areas where they thought people would be more likely to stand and looked to make those areas safer for those fans. Hence installing integrated bars for 3000 fans in the away section and for 6000 fans at the front of the South Stand. The Club had a duty of care to make those areas safer
  • In those areas, the stewards focus on keeping the aisles and gangways clear, on stopping migration and ensuring capacity isn’t exceeded by others wanting to be in those areas. This is where efforts are concentrated and the local licensing team are happy with how those areas are being managed to date
  • However, both the LBOH and the SGSA need to see the Club actively clamping down on standing throughout the other areas of the stadium – in line with legislation. The license is dependent on the Club actively discouraging standing in other areas
  • JB stressed that the Club and the Stewards are trying to do the right thing for everyone and have refined the approach since the opening few games, where some of the stewards had been somewhat heavy handed in approach
  • There are still pockets of fans in the South Upper who refuse to sit down at any time during any game. This causes issues in terms of the stadium license and with fellow fans who are either forced to also stand or not watch the match
  • JB invited THST to spend a match in the control room to observe fan behaviour and to see the pressure the Club is under from the licensing authorities to discourage standing in the upper South
  • JB was pleased to report that the initial issues with standing in the East Lower and North Lower had eased considerably since stadium opening
  • THST agreed the situation was a difficult one to manage but hadn’t agreed with one particular piece of communication threatening fans with bans if they didn’t comply. THST felt this was overly aggressive in tone and had not been well received by fans who were, after all, paying customers
  • DMC felt the Club had tried asking nicely on several occasions and it hadn’t worked in the South. They were not prepared to compromise fan safety or to lose their stadium license or have the capacity cut
  • THST felt the situation would be better managed were common sense applied, as happened in the old Park Lane stand and that the lack of definition around persistent standing was not helpful
  • All agreed to continue to consider messaging and how to manage this issue moving forwards
Oh yeah and I`ll have a baggy of whatever daniel is smoking

DL said he was disappointed that the Trust felt there was a disconnect. He hoped that fans recognised the better experience and improved facilities. That everything the Club did at the stadium was for the benefit of fans. DL had read the atmosphere comments in the members’ question pack and believes new stadium generates a better atmosphere than White Hart Lane. In terms of ticket prices

Probably a better atmosphere for him because its quiet and he can hear the beep,beep,beep of chip&pin machines hard at work.
 
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