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Flump

Flump

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Makes me feel sick just looking at this stuff. If god had wanted us to fly he’d have given us fucking wings
I did some stupid things as a scaffolder. As stupid as that. Didn't think about it at the time, you just got the job done.
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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I did some stupid things as a scaffolder. As stupid as that. Didn't think about it at the time, you just got the job done.
Betcha never tried this one o_O

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Glenjamin

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Are there seats behind those screens? Are they restricted view?
 
skiathospurs

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Are there seats behind those screens? Are they restricted view?
they dont block the pitch,but from the north stand you dont see much of the south stand at all.Not classed as restricted view cos of the pitch sight lines I guess,still the same £975 as the seats lower in the block.

this is south west corner I think,the north east view is slightly worse IMO
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Glenjamin

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they dont block the pitch,but from the north stand you dont see much of the south stand at all.Not classed as restricted view cos of the pitch sight lines I guess,still the same £975 as the seats lower in the block.

this is south west corner I think,the north east view is slightly worse IMO
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Yeah I would have said not being able to see your surroundings or the screen on the opposite side would be restricted view (especially if VAR becomes a thing),but I guess spurs don't take that stance.
 
skiathospurs

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Yeah I would have said not being able to see your surroundings or the screen on the opposite side would be restricted view (especially if VAR becomes a thing),but I guess spurs don't take that stance.
Become quite the money grabbing mongrels hasnt the board??I agree should be reduced price,cant believe this is what they are trying to push now with the 1882 seats.I saw on twitter someone who became a member last year has now been offered this tripe.No one is biting.And the club arent very open about being able to move STs when they become available,so you could be stuck with this view forever.
 
Glenjamin

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Become quite the money grabbing mongrels hasnt the board??I agree should be reduced price,cant believe this is what they are trying to push now with the 1882 seats.I saw on twitter someone who became a member last year has now been offered this tripe.No one is biting.And the club arent very open about being able to move STs when they become available,so you could be stuck with this view forever.

1882 is a joke and has been from the start. They think they have got it right to will continue to push it. What they should do is push all the rows forward by ten and remove it from the south stand.

Restricted view for me would be not been able to get the full atmosphere which I don't believe u will behind a screen. Sounds stupid but u can't even look up to see the structure or sun or whatever.
 
skiathospurs

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1882 is a joke and has been from the start. They think they have got it right to will continue to push it. What they should do is push all the rows forward by ten and remove it from the south stand.

Restricted view for me would be not been able to get the full atmosphere which I don't believe u will behind a screen. Sounds stupid but u can't even look up to see the structure or sun or whatever.
1882 is corporate/premium posing as a regular season ticket.Putting it smack in the middle of what is meant to be the home section is a marketing farce and clearly hasnt worked.Hopefully this will deter further encroachment on regular ticketing prices and stop other clubs who may have fancied a bit of that.

TV money is such a high %, that from a viewpoint of the spectacle for viewers,gentrifying the support will weaken the product by killing ye olde football atmosphere.Its short sighted money grabbing which if the PL becomes sterile like the emirates atmosphere,the game will suffer in the long term.
 
skiathospurs

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• Club has designed ‘safe seating’ for its new stadium
• Areas within the stadium have been future-proofed should law change and sited where persistent standing may occur
• Concept offers optionality and flexibility with safety and spectator comfort maximised
• Design ensures fans would be safer than before should they stand



Tottenham Hotspur Football Club today revealed the design of seating areas that have been future-proofed for safe standing within its new 62,000 capacity stadium, set to open later this year.


Today, cross-party MPs shall debate the issue in Parliament on whether all clubs, regardless of the division they play in, should have the ability to offer fans the choice in terms of whether to sit or stand while they watch their football team play.


The Club has put itself at the forefront of this debate with a unique design for its new stadium that offers optionality and flexibility.


Areas at the front of the stadium’s new 17,500 capacity single-tier South Stand, as well as in the visiting supporters’ section, have been future-proofed for safe standing – both are areas where the Club had issues with persistent standing when at its former White Hart Lane home.


Although ‘rail seating’ is used extensively in Germany and at Celtic Park in Scotland, the Club has created a different, improved design that doesn’t compromise comfort.


The Club is proposing a purpose-designed ‘safe seating’ concept whereby safety and spectator comfort are given equal precedence, using the same moulded seats as in the rest of the general admission areas.


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These seats provide the same comfort and leg room as in all other areas of the stadium, with an ergonomically profiled bar set at 900mm for clear sightlines.


The seat in its folded position is slim, allowing the stepping clearway to be maximised, with a purpose-designed lock to ensure the seat can be stowed when required.


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Furthermore, the Club has made its Season Ticket Holders aware of the potential for safe standing when purchasing seats within the future-proofed areas.


Donna-Maria Cullen, Executive Director, Tottenham Hotspur, said: “As a Club, we did not engage on this until the Hillsborough Inquiry was concluded, which showed that the tragedy in April 1989 had not been caused by standing.


“We then conducted research with our fan base which showed overwhelming support for safe standing. The main reasons given were choice and atmosphere - fans cannot sing sitting down.


“So, at our new stadium, we have designed a section within the home area and within the away section that has an integrated safety bar with the normal seating. Fans have bought season tickets for the home area in the knowledge that, should the law change, this would be our standing area - it was one of the first areas to sell out.


“Importantly, it is a new design which incorporates the same appearance and comfort as all other seats within the stadium.


“In the meantime, without any change in the law, our design delivers a safer environment should there be persistent standing.”


Jon Babbs, Stadium Director, Tottenham Hotspur, said: “Our design ensures that, regardless of the law changing, only one fan per seat will be permitted within the future-proofed areas.


“This, along with the enhanced clearways and integrated bar, provides improved safety should fans stand during games.”


Martin Cloake, Co-Chair, Tottenham Hotspur Supporters’ Trust, said: “We're proud the Club is leading the way by proposing an innovative design concept that takes into account what fans have been asking for. Our latest survey is showing support at 88% in favour of safe standing.”
 
Don Diaz

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• Club has designed ‘safe seating’ for its new stadium
• Areas within the stadium have been future-proofed should law change and sited where persistent standing may occur
• Concept offers optionality and flexibility with safety and spectator comfort maximised
• Design ensures fans would be safer than before should they stand



Tottenham Hotspur Football Club today revealed the design of seating areas that have been future-proofed for safe standing within its new 62,000 capacity stadium, set to open later this year.


Today, cross-party MPs shall debate the issue in Parliament on whether all clubs, regardless of the division they play in, should have the ability to offer fans the choice in terms of whether to sit or stand while they watch their football team play.


The Club has put itself at the forefront of this debate with a unique design for its new stadium that offers optionality and flexibility.


Areas at the front of the stadium’s new 17,500 capacity single-tier South Stand, as well as in the visiting supporters’ section, have been future-proofed for safe standing – both are areas where the Club had issues with persistent standing when at its former White Hart Lane home.


Although ‘rail seating’ is used extensively in Germany and at Celtic Park in Scotland, the Club has created a different, improved design that doesn’t compromise comfort.


The Club is proposing a purpose-designed ‘safe seating’ concept whereby safety and spectator comfort are given equal precedence, using the same moulded seats as in the rest of the general admission areas.


safe_seating730x400a.jpg



These seats provide the same comfort and leg room as in all other areas of the stadium, with an ergonomically profiled bar set at 900mm for clear sightlines.


The seat in its folded position is slim, allowing the stepping clearway to be maximised, with a purpose-designed lock to ensure the seat can be stowed when required.


safe_seating730x400b.jpg



Furthermore, the Club has made its Season Ticket Holders aware of the potential for safe standing when purchasing seats within the future-proofed areas.


Donna-Maria Cullen, Executive Director, Tottenham Hotspur, said: “As a Club, we did not engage on this until the Hillsborough Inquiry was concluded, which showed that the tragedy in April 1989 had not been caused by standing.


“We then conducted research with our fan base which showed overwhelming support for safe standing. The main reasons given were choice and atmosphere - fans cannot sing sitting down.


“So, at our new stadium, we have designed a section within the home area and within the away section that has an integrated safety bar with the normal seating. Fans have bought season tickets for the home area in the knowledge that, should the law change, this would be our standing area - it was one of the first areas to sell out.


“Importantly, it is a new design which incorporates the same appearance and comfort as all other seats within the stadium.


“In the meantime, without any change in the law, our design delivers a safer environment should there be persistent standing.”


Jon Babbs, Stadium Director, Tottenham Hotspur, said: “Our design ensures that, regardless of the law changing, only one fan per seat will be permitted within the future-proofed areas.


“This, along with the enhanced clearways and integrated bar, provides improved safety should fans stand during games.”


Martin Cloake, Co-Chair, Tottenham Hotspur Supporters’ Trust, said: “We're proud the Club is leading the way by proposing an innovative design concept that takes into account what fans have been asking for. Our latest survey is showing support at 88% in favour of safe standing.”
Once the the front blocks are standing we'll all be at it.
 
Liam

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Can't fucking wait to get there! Liverpool game should be a cracker to open with too.
 
Boone

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Apparently they’ve had to redo 15,000 of the seats that were done without weatherproofing on accident?
 
Glenjamin

Glenjamin

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Apparently they’ve had to redo 15,000 of the seats that were done without weatherproofing on accident?

I saw this to. I work in injection moulding and have to say I find the whole thing a bit bizarre. Paint on a weather proofing pigment??!! The seats should be injected in the right colour with a uv stabiliser in it, in a water resistant material. There shouldn't be any need for any post op work on these seats.

Only thing I can think is the company in question did a piss poor job on material selection at the start, or messed about with the material to enable extra cost in a post op 'painting'. Royally back fired if that's the case.

Should have came to me Levy mate i'd of got this right for ya first time!

Edit.. I looked back at the how it's made video. Its only polypropylene with gf nylon (structural supports),and no mention of post mould work apart from trimming the sprue. I don't get what's gone wrong unless they forgot to add an additive to the mix, which is highly unlikely.
 
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Finchbee

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Apparently they’ve had to redo 15,000 of the seats that were done without weatherproofing on accident?

The Sun article...That said £1bn stadium....That will £2bn in 4 weeks !
 
skiathospurs

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https://www.teamtalk.com/news/tottenham-reassure-fans-of-opening-of-new-stadium-after-seat-gaffe

This sheds a bit of light on it. It's padded seats for the posh crowd.

Makes more sense! Injection moulded seats would be hard to Fuck up!!
FAULTY seats fitted at the £1billion new Spurs stadium are being ripped out in the latest setback for the Prem club.

Up to 15,000 padded seats already installed were not fitted with a pigment to make them durable in bad weather.

Bungling workers were meant to add the pigment to navy blue dye used to coat the seats in the North London club’s colours.

Without the special formula, they will fall apart within months and fade to light blue after being exposed to the elements.

Humiliated staff at plastic injection moulding firm Certwood only noticed the mistake days ago.

And Spurs’ management “hit the roof” after being told the seats already in the stadium – up to 25 per cent of the eventual 62,062 capacity - must be torn out.

The club has already had to switch next season’s Premier League fixtures, starting with a series of away games and a home fixture at Wembley Stadium.

The first match at the new, as yet unnamed arena, will be against Liverpool in mid-September.

Spurs chiefs were adamant last night that the latest set-back will not disrupt test events ahead of opening.

But one insider at the stadium said: “There has been blood on the walls over this. It is very embarrassing.

“It isn’t Tottenham’s fault, but it looks very bad.

“The contractor was very sheepish about their blunder and will be working around the clock to ensure there are no further time delays.

"The fault was with the back of the seat and the padding. They were not fit for purpose."

There are three test events scheduled at the stadium - the first in early August - to ensure it meets stringent health and safety standards.

A source said the contract to make and fit the seats in the new stadium was worth more than £10million – and replacing up to 15,000 seats would cost Certwood a “fortune”.

A Tottenham Hotspur spokesman told The Sun: “All seats affected are being swiftly replaced and it will not have any impact on the scheduling of our operational test events that are due to commence at the start of August or our first home fixture in our new stadium against Liverpool.”

Luton-based Certwood said the problem related to the production of a component part used in the seat.

A spokeswoman said: “In trying to deliver the very best product for THFC a phenomenon called ‘heat stress’ occurred in the process.

“Stress marking became evident within days of leaving our plant as a localised lighter patch on the affected part. They were subsequently recalled having already left our plant.

“The problem was identified internally. THFC have been provided with replacements and there are no delays in the delivery, build or opening of the new stadium resulting from this.

“Manufacturing is a demanding business and never without issues that can occur from time to time, we pride ourselves in supporting all of our customers and promptly addressing any issues that may arise.

“The faulty parts will be re-cycled into other, non-cosmetic moulded components that we produce.”
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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from ssc

"Yep, Chelsea blue seats...yeah, yeah..15 thousand of them. That'll take you up to 58k, and who's going to offer you a better deal than that?....Not sure you say? Well, I've got an Iranian chap on Merseyside who's very interested so let me know by the end of the day ok?"

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C

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Wonder how much it costs to make one of those seats, compared to you know, the contract cost... but effectively putting in 77k seats instead of 62k is probably going to be quite the cost for the manufacturer that fecked this up.
 
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