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Yid

Yid

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The board would say... Well if we're 16th... Let's make some savings...!!!
 
USspur

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Havocc

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We are now 5 points from relegation…….

with 4 tough games to come
 
Dave

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Even in the 90's when Jurgen helped us stay up, I wasn't as concerned as I am this season.
There's no fight in them. Too good to go down ? I don't think so..
 
jaxdermot

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Even in the 90's when Jurgen helped us stay up, I wasn't as concerned as I am this season.
There's no fight in them. Too good to go down ? I don't think so..
at least we have the Champions t☠️💀
 
J.spurs

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over proforming in 14th .. shows how much ANALitics can be misleading... I liked it when the confusing math was goal difference... Stop passing out from the goal kick All the time.
I know what you mean but this is not misleading. Since teams usually revert back to the mean in the long term, it suggests that things are going to get worse unless we start creating more chances because as bad as we've been, we've been sort of riding our luck.

Saying that, I feel like we've slightly turned a corner and are looking a bit more put together in the attack. Injury or two away from being back at square 1 though.
 
jaxdermot

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I know what you mean but this is not misleading. Since teams usually revert back to the mean in the long term, it suggests that things are going to get worse unless we start creating more chances because as bad as we've been, we've been sort of riding our luck.

Saying that, I feel like we've slightly turned a corner and are looking a bit more put together in the attack. Injury or two away from being back at square 1 though.
I get your point.. and your probably right.
Just in my opinion a ton of sports is about luck, it's about momentum, it's about someone getting his groove or getting the yips.
Im not sure teams revert back to the mean, I think analitics revert the mean to suit the argument/opinion..
I understand teams have DNA but that's history and I think if you look, at for example our recent record against City , the analitics would trend twords us be like good ol Danso"world Class" . History is written and can be quantified, and in my opinion analitics tends to pick and choose the time range/control to support a particular opinion.
I guess Im just not completely on board with sports being a math problem...
You are right when you say we need to improve, we definitely need to be more creative we need to be brave... we need to get back to what Harry brought us , he was outrageous and a lot of what he did was outrageous. We need someone to be outrageous (it might be Luka)
And this is more of a comment on my feelings,not a dig at you ..If you do the math 🥸your more likely right then I am.
 
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J.spurs

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I get your point.. and your probably right.
Just in my opinion a ton of sports is about luck, it's about momentum, it's about someone getting his groove or getting the yips.
Im not sure teams revert back to the mean, I think analitics revert the mean to suit the argument/opinion..
I understand teams have DNA but that's history and I think if you look, at for example our recent record against City , the analitics would trend twords us be like good ol Danso"world Class" . History is written and can be quantified, and in my opinion analitics tends to pick and choose the time range/control to support a particular opinion.
I guess Im just not completely on board with sports being a math problem...
You are right when you say we need to improve, we definitely need to be more creative we need to be brave... we need to get back to what Harry brought us , he was outrageous and a lot of what he did was outrageous. We need someone to be outrageous (it might be Luka)
And this is more of a comment on my feelings,not a dig at you ..If you do the math 🥸your more likely right then I am.
100%. Data is (or is it are?) only part of the story. Our record v. Citeh is a perfect example of how weird shit happens.

Not a math guy myself but point is, that xG suggests we're not even as good as our league position, and that kind of fits the eye test if you know what I mean. BUT...might be alone in this, but I do think things are improving.
 
jaxdermot

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100%. Data is (or is it are?) only part of the story. Our record v. Citeh is a perfect example of how weird shit happens.

Not a math guy myself but point is, that xG suggests we're not even as good as our league position, and that kind of fits the eye test if you know what I mean. BUT...might be alone in this, but I do think things are improving.
You is right (are)...
And yeah it feels like we're improving, Xavi appears to be growing into the League physicality, maybe Connor can help us drive forward, and I like our youth, Archie,Sarr,Spence,Udogoe ECT...
I am an optimistic fan.. We will see against Man U....
COYS
 
Yid

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...that xG suggests we're not even as good as our league position, and that kind of fits the eye test if you know what I mean...
I was gonna type this exact thing... The data supports that were as shit as I am seeing...

It's bad lads, and yeah, I am the resident pessimist at this fucking point, but while I would suggest there has been a modicum of improvement in effort. We're phenomenally fragile and any semblance of progress could be wiped out with a few individual mistakes...

Getting humped by the Barcodes would set us back even further... Survival is the priority this season alongside an autopsy from head to tail of how we operate...

I don't expect either in truth...!!!
 
J.spurs

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It's bad lads, and yeah, I am the resident pessimist at this fucking point, but while I would suggest there has been a modicum of improvement in effort. We're phenomenally fragile and any semblance of progress could be wiped out with a few individual mistakes...
Today was a perfect example of this. Looked decent in the first 20 minutes and then bludgeoned ourselves in the dick.
 
ClemFandango

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West Ham winning, we are 6 points off relegation

Apparently it's the 3rd time in 13 months we've gone 7 games without a win.

Last time that happened was 16 years ago.under Harry.
 
J.spurs

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You know, for all our misery, Newcastle haven’t been much better over the last few weeks. Big game coming up for both clubs.
 
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