Premier League

[ClemFandango]

Well if the many reports from training are to be believed, the squad seems to be quite taken with RDZ's methods and have reportedly claimed it's the "best" training they've had in years.

So maybe we'll get that 'new manager bounce' after all.

 

[jaxdermot]

Well if the many reports from training are to be believed, the squad seems to be quite taken with RDZ's methods and have reportedly claimed it's the "best" training they've had in years.

So maybe we'll get that 'new manager bounce' after all.

scary thing is "best training" is a very low bar... but your hope gives me hope.. hopefully
COYS???

 

[Yid]

Lol, I've been thinking this for ages...

Maybe the Amazon documentary on THFC wasn't a title, but a question...? And we went with the latter...!

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I have led my life, reasonably successfully, by eliminating things that don't bring me joy or peace. I chose to follow this club, I became a fan, an actual fanatic because it brang me immense joy and pride. But the way we have transitioned from a club who had an edge and an individualised identity and colourful history to another capitalist mega corp, simply gouging money from the pockets of everyone who it comes into contact with, makes me sad and angry.

Ill still care whatever happens, but nothing like I once did.

The only way I see things changing is if it all comes crashing down and that'll include relegation, financial trouble and being brought for cheap by a speculative owner who will try to bring back the glory days we have never really enjoyed in the Premier League era...

There's no one at the club who is worth half a fucking wank right now, no one who actually cares about Spurs and until someone does, it cannot change.

If we don't thrash Sunderland tomorrow then it's fucking nailed on, the light will be out and I will cut out another thing in my life that simply annoys and frustrates me. I will welcome the inevitable and the take the ridicule due in a nonchalant way, telling myself those in charge didn't care enough about me, my club, my dedication my feelings, to invest and do a better job when it was actually necessary.

While I got Audere est Facere tattooed across my chest and beat my chest every time we crossed the white line, not a fucking single person with the position of power to actually dare did... Not one of them have dared and consequently we never did...

#ENICOUT

 

[Dave]

It is a small consolation but still, a consolation for us to watch Arsenal crumble under pressure. If they fuck this up and we stay up, it'll be a great season.

 

[Style And Glory]

ManU v Leeds.

Never in my life have I wanted MU to win so much.

 

[Dave]

Look at Leeds...0-2 up....could be 5...they're battling, tenacious, together.

I can't remember the last time a Tottenham side played like that.

 

[Style And Glory]

We have no chance v Leeds the way they are playing.
There's miles of class between us & them. They are playing like a team possessed.
This is looking so bleak for us.

Only now is it really sinking in for me that we have a high probability of going down.

 

[jaxdermot]

We have no chance v Leeds the way they are playing.
There's miles of class between us & them. They are playing like a team possessed.
This is looking so bleak for us.

Only now is it really sinking in for me that we have a high probability of going down.

do we have a chance against anyone.... even in the championship... I don't watch that league (yet) but I imagine those players have a lot to prove, they are playing for their future...

 

[J.spurs]

Look at Leeds...0-2 up....could be 5...they're battling, tenacious, together.

I can't remember the last time a Tottenham side played like that.

Ignoring the actual results, which obviously make this point: on the eyeball test we are the worst team in the division by a mile.

Maybe Burnley, but even they seem to have a performance in them once in a while. Leeds have had a major problem with throwing away points in games like this one, though. They were brilliant at West Ham a couple weeks ago and still only got a point.

 

[jaxdermot]

Ignoring the actual results, which obviously make this point: on the eyeball test we are the worst team in the division by a mile.

Maybe Burnley, but even they seem to have a performance in them once in a while. Leeds have had a major problem with throwing away points in games like this one, though. They were brilliant at West Ham a couple weeks ago and still only got a point.

anyone got a fork

 

[Dave]

do we have a chance against anyone.... even in the championship... I don't watch that league (yet) but I imagine those players have a lot to prove, they are playing for their future...

The Championship is an unforgiving league. Blood n' Thunder...proper full blooded tackles, off the ball shenanigans with no VAR and anyone going down holding their face like as if they've been shot, will be laughed at.
Paulinha and Gray are the only players I can see will not end up sobbing in the corner of the dressing room after a proper game in the Championship...

It's not for flakes....

 

[Style And Glory]

Going bad to worse. MU down to 10 men.
Martinez is an idiot

 

[J.spurs]

do we have a chance against anyone.... even in the championship... I don't watch that league (yet) but I imagine those players have a lot to prove, they are playing for their future...

I watch the Championship a lot (more than the PL these days tbh) and it would all depend on how we approached it from the top. The overall standard is WAY higher than it was ten years ago, but the Premier League standard has increased even more. This season aside, there's a reason why promoted teams usually get relegated.

What often happens is that teams walk the division playing expansive attacking football (like Coventry this season or Leicester/Southampton multiple times) and then get humped in the PL because they can't change their style of play and they don't bring in the players to compete. Sunderland spent huge sums to basically buy a new squad, which is why they are where they are.

Yes, the tackles fly in, and I think it's hard to get used to the expanded schedule. But we have a lot of players with experience in that division--Gray, Odobert, Spence, Maddison, Solanke, plus a number of players doing well on loan the Championship.. Setting emotion aside, I think we'd be massive favorites to win the league unless we had a fire sale.

None of this is meant to sound optimistic at all, obviously, it's a travesty that we're discussing how we'll do in the Championship.

 

[jaxdermot]

The Championship is an unforgiving league. Blood n' Thunder...proper full blooded tackles, off the ball shenanigans with no VAR and anyone going down holding their face like as if they've been shot, will be laughed at.
Paulinha and Gray are the only players I can see will not end up sobbing in the corner of the dressing room after a proper game in the Championship...

It's not for flakes....

might suit Richie the bichie... maybe it's where he belongs

 

[J.spurs]

might suit Richie the bichie... maybe it's where he belongs

It is his level IMO.

 

[Style And Glory]

Glimmer of hope.
MU 1 - 2 Leeds

 

[J.spurs]

How did United not score a second

 

[Dave]

I don't think this result has any impact on us tbh....it's West Ham, and especially Forest we need to focus on catching. Next weekend will give us a chance, or nail us to the floor imo... We have Brighton at home, tough game cos they're flying, but if De Zerbi gets a tune out of them we could get a result. However, if we don't...Forest have Burnley at home and Palace (who are safe and looking for a European trophy) are at home to West Ham.

There's a good chance we could be 3, or possibly 5 points adrift by this day week...
Fuckin hell lads...

 

[J.spurs]

I don't think this result has any impact on us tbh....it's West Ham, and especially Forest we need to focus on catching. Next weekend will give us a chance, or nail us to the floor imo... We have Brighton at home, tough game cos they're flying, but if De Zerbi gets a tune out of them we could get a result. However, if we don't...Forest have Burnley at home and Palace (who are safe and looking for a European trophy) are at home to West Ham.

There's a good chance we could be 3, or possibly 5 points adrift by this day week...
Fuckin hell lads...

I do think one thing De Zerbi said after the game is true—if we can just win one, I think we can get enough points to give us a decent shout at staying up. The big problem, other than the fact that we’re rubbish, is that a lot of our opponents—maybe all of them bar Wolves—still have something to play for.

 

[Glenjamin]

Reality is at this point it's us or Forest to drop I'd wager. West ham past few weeks look like a team and Bowen is back at it so they're scoring goals again.

In all honesty I think we are fucked. Our last bunch of games aren't friendly at all with Chelsea and Villa in there.

 

[BrooklynYid]

Not that we don't already know this, but an interesting read on how it happened.

How bad analytics built a Tottenham team that might get relegated

Tottenham are really bad and looking at the way this team has been constructed, one thing clearly stands out: This team is really bad at passing the ball, and that may explain their present malaise.

www.espn.com

 

[J.spurs]

Not that we don't already know this, but an interesting read on how it happened.

How bad analytics built a Tottenham team that might get relegated

Tottenham are really bad and looking at the way this team has been constructed, one thing clearly stands out: This team is really bad at passing the ball, and that may explain their present malaise.

www.espn.com

This is good, but at least some of this has to do with the approach to the game we've adopted this season. "Can he pass?" Not when players aren't getting into positions to receive the ball.