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Yid

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Yes they do...but I think 'soccer' is the fastest growing sport in the US?
I meant the middle eastern countries. .. they love most things yank..... apart from their religious idiologies of course.
 
Yid

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I think what we are seeing with this host of new contracts being offered is us/the club being made ready for the big sell.

I don't mean we will be sold because with the investment that has already taken place and is still being done now the owners are set to make an absolute killing when complete so it'd not make sense to sell now unless it was at an inflated price for where we are now and taking into count our future earning potential and final value.

What I mean is our potential sale value to a sponsor/naming rights deal for the new gaff.

It also gives us a layer of assurance in terms of personnel over the posible turbulent times of the next few years being in and out of the lane. By tieing our players all down to 5 year deals we know what we have got... and effectively unless someone chirps up and wants to leave (Poch would kick them out before that occurred imo) we will have a settled squad that we will only add to.

I'd expect many more new signatures over the next few months to see us through this period and assure our potential value to investors.

I think as well what we will see with the new deals is that those youngsters signing new deals may be the ones that Poch sees long term successors to those currently in the squad. Those established names who are putting pen to paper will be the ones who Poch needs and sees as key players to his system and our success.

I'm obviously reading between the lines, but what I see I like and again I think this long/medium term planning of the baldy business messiah seems to be yet again absolutely on fcuking point.

I expect to see a rehash of this in the journos by Sunday as I am clearly the most cleverest of fcukers who has thought of this first.

Just credit me and I won't sue the living shit out of you.
 
LakewoodSpur

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@Yid...you are "the most cleverest of fcukers." :)

Since Poch signed his contract to 2021...it makes sense he's going to surround himself for the next five years with players HE wants.
 
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LakewoodSpur

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Being 8,000 miles away, I'm not privy to all the happenings around WHL, but I was wondering if you know whether the new WHL will have a Spurs Museum in it? You know, a place where Spurs history, iconic memorabilia, etc., will be on display? Also, have any of the decision-makers thought about putting a seat (or several seats) from the current WHL into the new WHL as a unique continuity symbol? Every time I see @boo post old signing pix, they remind me of the incredibly rich history that belongs to THFC and how a trip to the new stadium would be complimented by such a historical display.
 
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skiathospurs

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Being 8,000 miles away, I'm not privy to all the happenings around WHL, but I was wondering if you know whether the new WHL will have a Spurs Museum in it? You know, a place where Spurs history, iconic memorabilia, etc., will be on display? Also, have any of the decision-makers thought about putting a seat (or several seats) from the current WHL into the new WHL as a unique continuity symbol? Every time I see @boo post old signing pix, they remind me of the incredibly rich history that belongs to THFC and how a trip to the new stadium would be complimented by such a historical display.
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/new-scheme/scheme-details/
The Tottenham Experience
The Tottenham Experience will be a housed in an architecturally stunning new visitors' centre, designed as a three storey terrace along the High Road to act as a gateway to the new Stadium, providing a permanent use for the listed Warmington House.

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The building creates a new entrance plaza from the South and will host:

  • A Museum of Tottenham Heritage – allowing people to access historic archives, collections and stories about the local area and the Club’s role in the history of Tottenham in a relaxing and welcoming environment, with views onto the High Road and onto the podium level next to the Stadium.
  • An interactive Club Museum – utilising interpretive media designed to tell the Club’s history, display Club artefacts, host the Hall of Fame and encourage the visitor to explore all aspects of the Club and its home in Tottenham.
  • Kinetic motion-sensor Skills Booths – allowing visitors to test their skills against key players past and present and to re-create memorable moments from the historic archives.
  • An immersive Cinema – as part of the Club Museum and stadium tour experience and a venue for private screenings and local community events.
 
skiathospurs

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So as we are fairly new here discussion wise,thought it appropriate to go back in time and post the original beginnings of NWHL.

May 2008
In the Club's 2007/08 interim financial statement we indicated that we would report on the outcome of our appraisals and our preferred option in respect of an increased capacity stadium by the end of June. However, following the latest appraisal, it will now not be possible to make an announcement within that time frame.

Chairman, Daniel Levy, said, “The difficulties with seeking a solution to our need for increased capacity are significant, they include low residual land values within the Tottenham area which in turn makes enabling development less feasible, along with a limited number of suitable alternative sites within London, all of which require land assembly.

“I am determined that we shall work towards a successful outcome and a project of this nature and importance cannot be hurried.

“On a point of clarity, we have taken no decision on whether or not to expand White Hart Lane and we continue to review and keep our options open.

“I appreciate that supporters are keen for news on the future of the stadium and felt that it was important to provide an update.

“I shall, of course, keep you fully appraised of any developments in the coming months.”

Oct 2008
Tottenham Hotspur confirms Northumberland Development Project


• A world-class scheme incorporating a new stadium with a capacity of 60,000, a Club museum, new shops, new homes, a new base for the Tottenham Hotspur Foundation and important new public space
• Delivered on the current site and adjacent land, ending concerns about a move out of the Borough
• No need for a temporary move during construction
• Significant local benefits and a huge boost to the area
• Potential catalyst for wider regeneration and further investment
• First public exhibition to open from 14 November - 18 November

The Club is delighted to announce that, having concluded an extensive review of suitable sites and viable alternatives, its preferred stadium option is to remain at the Club's spiritual home in Tottenham - the option known to be the fans' favourite.

The existing 36,000 capacity stadium has remained unchanged for over a decade and the club is currently in the position of having 70,000 registered club members and a waiting list for season tickets of around 22,000 people.

The Club is preparing plans for a world class scheme incorporating a new stadium, Club museum, shops and homes, new facilities for the Tottenham Hotspur Foundation and important public space. The plans will enable the team to remain at the current site throughout construction.

Daniel Levy, Chairman of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club said:

"The Northumberland Development Project would deliver a world class scheme and substantial new investment for Haringey and our supporters. It represents a significant step in the growth of the Club, with a proposed stadium capacity of 60,000 and would provide state-of-the-art facilities, important public space, new jobs and homes and a significant boost for the local economy.

"It would also enable us to provide a new base for the Tottenham Hotspur Foundation so that its award winning programmes can continue and have an even greater impact in the local community.

"Tottenham Hotspur is proud of its roots in Haringey. We have been in the Borough for 126 years and the Club is inextricably linked with this part of London. We believe that this scheme has the potential to create a truly inspirational environment for the Club and the community as well as acting as the catalyst for the uplift of the wider area.

"We are at an early stage of what is part of our long term plans for the Club and now we want the views of local people and our fans. I hope people will take the time to look at our plans and let us have their comments."

Councillor George Meehan, Leader of Haringey Council, said:

"I am delighted that Tottenham Hotspur has confirmed its commitment to remain in our borough.

"We have always regarded Spurs as one of Haringey's prime assets. They bring major economic benefits to our borough and carry out some excellent community work through the Tottenham Hotspur Foundation.

"But more than anything, Spurs has played an integral role in giving a sense of identity to the area it calls home. Tottenham would not be Tottenham without its football club.

"We have been working extremely hard to regenerate the Tottenham area, which suffered so much from industrial decline. Real progress is being made, and it is extremely pleasing that Spurs has demonstrated that they share our commitment to this continuing regeneration.

"But, as always, we will consider very carefully any plans that are submitted to us, as we strive to ensure that a new stadium delivers real benefits for all who live and work in the area."

The plans, which will be unveiled at the first public exhibition later this month, cover an area of around 20 acres including the site of the current ground and the adjacent industrial estate. The new stadium would be sited largely to the North of the existing one.

In policy terms, the area is within the 'Tottenham High Road Regeneration Corridor' and identified in the Haringey Unitary Development Plan (UDP) as a "major site for potential redevelopment" to act as a "catalyst for prime regeneration".

The transport infrastructure around the stadium is already in place, with 4 stations (White Hart Lane, Northumberland Park, Seven Sisters and Tottenham Hale) and over 100 buses an hour serving the stadium area. Together these deliver a total capacity in excess of 90,000 passengers an hour.

The recent introduction of a match-day Controlled Parking Zone together with improved dedicated match-day services and a public information campaign to supporters, means that just over a third of people now come by car with the majority using public transport.

The Club will now undertake a thorough consultation programme with the local community and will also continue to consult with supporters. A first public exhibition is being organised to present the Club's vision for the area with the public invited to make comment on the plans. These comments will be considered and more detailed information will then be presented at a second exhibition before a planning application is submitted to Haringey Council.

Oct 2008 chairmans statement
With a waiting list for season tickets of over 22,000 and Club membership levels of over 70,000, our need for an increased capacity stadium has been clear for all to see for some time. We diligently spent considerable time reviewing our options and the news that our supporters had been waiting for came this month when we announced our intention to remain in Tottenham, confirming the Northumberland Development Project – a world class scheme incorporating a new stadium with a capacity of 60,000, a club museum, new shops, restaurants, homes and important public space.

Having reviewed our stadium options it was clear that there were a limited number of alternative sites to our current location and following discussions with Council bodies, the LDA, Transport for London and local and central government officials, redeveloping the existing site emerged as the most viable route.

We have spent 5 years buying and taking options over property around the current stadium site to enable us to either develop locally or to gain the critical mass to achieve a substantial site sale as a contribution to a relocation. To date this includes almost 60 separate property transactions, including 40 residential and potentially 160 commercial properties at a commitment of £44m. The scheme includes the current site and adjoining land with the stadium sited largely to the north of the existing one. Getting to this stage has necessitated a great deal of work, determination and co-operation. The task ahead will by no means be easy but it is our firm belief that the new development will not only benefit everyone involved in the Club, but significantly enhance the immediate area around the ground. Importantly, it has real potential to kick start the regeneration of the wider area....

....Looking further forward and to funding for the new development, the funding package will necessarily include a combination of sponsorship, property deals, bank finance and innovative funding proposals.

However, stadium projects take time to deliver and we are determined not to undertake any capital project that undermines the financial stability that we have worked so hard to create at this Club. Be assured we shall look to ensure that this scheme is delivered in an appropriate manner. The project team now includes a multi-disciplinary group of architects, transport consultants, heritage specialists, planning consultants and other advisers.

The public consultation period will now begin and we would hope to submit a planning application in 2009. I am personally delighted that we have been able to put forward a viable option which we know to be the fans’ favourite – remaining at the Club’s spiritual home.

From all these beginnings eight years ago to this in two years time,
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and to think just a year ago it was the players car park,and a kebab machine factory :D,amazing the speed this last year.What was a press release in 2008 is now almost a reality.
 
skiathospurs

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Latest pics from the fab skyscraper city forum.
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Jeez! Imagine having to drive and operate that monster!

It is pretty incredible how these stadiums are put together to be honest.

Love how the official site suffixed "largest concrete raker installed" with "Come On You Spurs!", lol
 
Liam

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I swear it looks better every week now! Wait until the new year
 
Flump

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Was talking to the fella on one side of me on Wednesday night and I said, "It's not been the same since they pulled down the Shelf, not even since they tore down the old West stand really for me, but imagine what this new place will look like under the lights" and we both just stared into thin air and went all dreamy.
 
Don Diaz

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It's like the biggest Lego set you could ever dream of.....if that's your thing!!!
 
skiathospurs

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Was talking to the fella on one side of me on Wednesday night and I said, "It's not been the same since they pulled down the Shelf, not even since they tore down the old West stand really for me, but imagine what this new place will look like under the lights" and we both just stared into thin air and went all dreamy.
was that when he touched you???
 
skiathospurs

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Following the largest raker going in at the new stadium recently, here's a look at the level three supports!
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skiathospurs

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Interesting angle on west hams move to the OS,hopefully lessons learned from THFC and the fans on the state of play there.


West Ham’s move to shiny future trapped in a bottleneck of angst
Move to Olympic Stadium has become symbol of east London’s growing identity crisis
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/socc...medium=twitter


Whilst it is fun to have a bit of a laugh at any rivals misfortunes,there by the grace of god nearly went we!!And the gentrifiaction and regeneration,no doubt a good thing (both stratford&haringey) but could we have a feeling of disconnect to the good old days of the Lane?when we are sitting/standing next to new maybe less raucous newer fans?At least we are still at our spiritual home,and have a whole season to learn about the migration of STHs and members before any free for all at NWHL.
Whilst I dont think we will suffer such a change of identity crisis,no doubt it happens,just ask city or arsenal fans of a generation what a new stadium and success,changes bring,because things definatly will change to an extent.Can we keep the passion,intimacy of the Lane once the loyal 30k of the last 30 years is dispersed to all corners,will it still feel the same when the Brikkies pub is a wifi wine bar? or chick-king is a peri-peri sit down restaurant.
I cant wait for the new stadium now,and I like a good chuckle at our east end neighbors,but how the club handle the disaffected cos there will be some?I hope we too dont have mini-stratford meltdown.
Anyway the article is a good read for a slow saturday morning.

Billy Bonds said this week, whatever the London Stadium is, “it isn’t a football ground”.

Bonds was right. The place is a ‘venue’, not a football ground. So far.
 
Liam

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Interesting angle on west hams move to the OS,hopefully lessons learned from THFC and the fans on the state of play there.


West Ham’s move to shiny future trapped in a bottleneck of angst
Move to Olympic Stadium has become symbol of east London’s growing identity crisis
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/socc...medium=twitter


Whilst it is fun to have a bit of a laugh at any rivals misfortunes,there by the grace of god nearly went we!!And the gentrifiaction and regeneration,no doubt a good thing (both stratford&haringey) but could we have a feeling of disconnect to the good old days of the Lane?when we are sitting/standing next to new maybe less raucous newer fans?At least we are still at our spiritual home,and have a whole season to learn about the migration of STHs and members before any free for all at NWHL.
Whilst I dont think we will suffer such a change of identity crisis,no doubt it happens,just ask city or arsenal fans of a generation what a new stadium and success,changes bring,because things definatly will change to an extent.Can we keep the passion,intimacy of the Lane once the loyal 30k of the last 30 years is dispersed to all corners,will it still feel the same when the Brikkies pub is a wifi wine bar? or chick-king is a peri-peri sit down restaurant.
I cant wait for the new stadium now,and I like a good chuckle at our east end neighbors,but how the club handle the disaffected cos there will be some?I hope we too dont have mini-stratford meltdown.
Anyway the article is a good read for a slow saturday morning.

Billy Bonds said this week, whatever the London Stadium is, “it isn’t a football ground”.

Bonds was right. The place is a ‘venue’, not a football ground. So far.

The gentrification of East London has slowly been happening for quite some time now though, and it was nothing to do with West Ham. With the the Stadiun, as Billy Bonds points out, not being a football stadium as such I think this doesn't help them at all. Our ground is being built with us in mind, fans close to the pich, and single tier stand will help create a good atmosphere. I'm pretty sure The Brickies won't change too much mate,it's not like Tottenham is becoming as gentrified as East London at the moment.

With the single tier in mind I hope most of the ST holders in the Park Lane get seats in there and The Paxton boys the other side. If the singers in that stand together it'll create a wall of sound which should encourage others to sing along! I hope it's that way anyway...
 
skiathospurs

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The gentrification of East London has slowly been happening for quite some time now though, and it was nothing to do with West Ham. With the the Stadiun, as Billy Bonds points out, not being a football stadium as such I think this doesn't help them at all. Our ground is being built with us in mind, fans close to the pich, and single tier stand will help create a good atmosphere. I'm pretty sure The Brickies won't change too much mate,it's not like Tottenham is becoming as gentrified as East London at the moment.

With the single tier in mind I hope most of the ST holders in the Park Lane get seats in there and The Paxton boys the other side. If the singers in that stand together it'll create a wall of sound which should encourage others to sing along! I hope it's that way anyway...
I aiready know people this season relocated from the NE corner works,and there are rumblings,people from the north stand moved,ballots for tickets,so me a stand up shelfsider or park lane could end up in the west stand,do i sit and suck on it or do i stand and sing?thats part of what is happening in a minor way now and will only increase at wembley and NWHL.That is what concerns me,already I think our atmosphere has suffered this year a tad at home,bound to happen,but when we move 50,000 people into new areas,those who want to stand and sing or sit and chat,going to be conflicts,end up with an area full of tourists around you if you are hardcore,it will vex you.
How the club handles this is very important,though i dont believe our fans will start thumping our own fans or day trippers,but people who want to sit and are faced with people around them standing=conflict.Its why safe standing has to be seriously pushed for,it will disolve most of this issue.
 
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Maybe you should get in touch with the club about your concerns. What I would say is that in almost all cases of clubs moving stadium there have been things they've not got right. West Ham is pretty obvious why the London Stadium (that really pisses me off they have the gall to call their new dump "the London Stadium" as if all the other London clubs don't exist) is not right. Arsenal got it wrong too moving to the Emirates - you know it ain't right when, after several years, your manager demands a makeover so the players understand that it is their home ground!

So far (fingers crossed) it seems Spurs have been learning from mistakes and are listening to fans when it comes to the new stadium. Just the fact they've incorporated a single tier shows that they're addressing atmosphere, so the logistics of seating for ST holders I'm sure will have been thought about, but it can't hurt to ask these things.

Every time I've emailed the club with a question/concern regarding the new stadium they've actually responded, which is great.

Also, as I understand it, the new stadium will be built with safe standing in mind. They aren't actually building it with safe-standing in place, it has not yet been ratified in law as far as I know, but the stands are being constructed in a way that it can be easily introduced if/when it is allowed.
 
skiathospurs

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Maybe you should get in touch with the club about your concerns. What I would say is that in almost all cases of clubs moving stadium there have been things they've not got right. West Ham is pretty obvious why the London Stadium (that really pisses me off they have the gall to call their new dump "the London Stadium" as if all the other London clubs don't exist) is not right. Arsenal got it wrong too moving to the Emirates - you know it ain't right when, after several years, your manager demands a makeover so the players understand that it is their home ground!

So far (fingers crossed) it seems Spurs have been learning from mistakes and are listening to fans when it comes to the new stadium. Just the fact they've incorporated a single tier shows that they're addressing atmosphere, so the logistics of seating for ST holders I'm sure will have been thought about, but it can't hurt to ask these things.

Every time I've emailed the club with a question/concern regarding the new stadium they've actually responded, which is great.

Also, as I understand it, the new stadium will be built with safe standing in mind. They aren't actually building it with safe-standing in place, it has not yet been ratified in law as far as I know, but the stands are being constructed in a way that it can be easily introduced if/when it is allowed.
THST are constantly on the case,I would hope with what seems a designated nutters stand for 17,000,those who wish to sit and chat dont relocate there!!I think we inevitably will have learnt about fan migration from the emirates and west ham,and our year in wembley is a good dry run,for where people sit and hopefuly an improved ticketing system online!
 
deejbah

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I'm not sure why they wouldn't designate some areas or a large part of the single tier stand as "active support" areas where if you sit there you expect to be singing/standing etc.
 
skiathospurs

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I'm not sure why they wouldn't designate some areas or a large part of the single tier stand as "active support" areas where if you sit there you expect to be singing/standing etc.
I guess the concept is just new,its only every 100 years or so you change stadia,we have a history of people migrating and sitting in the kind of area that suits them,be that singing and standing or sitting and talking about painting the fence,behind the goal or or on the sidelines,over years we knew where we wanted to be and what to expect,new stadium it will def take time to sort itself out even if we do a perfect job as much as we can.Seems a simple task ask people if they want sidelnes or behind the goal (big price differential),upper or lower tier,close to away fans,a "designated family area",and once you have a season ticket,it s no mean feat to move your seat somewhere else next season,or it wasnt at the lane.One problem is the new 25,000 or some of them wont appreciate or think about the choice they are making,take your child into a standing area whether designated or not = bad experience if your kid cant see,and there are many reasons some people will be dissatisfied if they are in an environment they didnt foresee.
 
skiathospurs

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Official THFC new stadium progress pictures from 21/09/16

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Yid

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The rakes for the single tier will be the interesting ones.
 
Don Diaz

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Are there any engineering dudes that can advise us how they build such a large project to the finest of margins, like having to get the infrastructure in exactly the right place, for the future seats etc. etc.
 
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