Uk politics...

[Rev John Ripsher]

It's bonkers to even suggest that any kind of hit on the economy would be ok.

None of the so-called scare stories has even remotely come to pass, so calling a 10% hit on the economy a probability or even a possibility is not only completely bonkers but utterly irresponsible.

But hey-ho, the twitterisation of Brexit is among us.

EDIT: Just to show what a complete shower it all is.... with the utter horlicks of a deal before us, plus the government that put us in the position we are supposedly in, the idea of voting Labour is still anathema.

 

[Dorset]

The Tories are talking about restricting immigration to those earning over £30,000 a year.

The NHS can not cope now, it's skint. Waiting lists get ever longer, minor surgeries are now not provided as they are deemed to be cosmetic, you can wait 12 hours for an ambulance.

Agency nurses and doctors need to be used to fill the gaps, now they will have to employ agency staff to do all the shit jobs the low paid European staff do now like cleaning up blood and vomit, feeding patients, helping the confused old folks who should be looked after in care homes - which will now become even more expensive because they too rely on low paid European staff.

Fully qualified nurses start on salaries of £22,128 - so the thousands of Irish nurses, Polish, Romanian and other EU nurses will be barred from working here.

I've spent a bit of time in hospital over the last few years and I find myself apologising to the many European staff members who looked after me and saved my life, sorry that the nazis have voted that they hate you, they do not represent the majority of this country, sorry.

Even if you chose to ignore the absolute fact that migrants from the EU are vital to the UK services industries, agricultural and transport - have you ever stayed in a hotel, eaten in a restaurant, had a parcel delivered? Even if you were sitting there waiting for the day when you could get your Mosley poster out, wear you blackshirt and armband with pride, surely just the thought of the NHS being screwed over would make you think for just one second that your precious Brexit would not be as triiifc as you thought it would? Not happening I suppose as Brexit supporters are really not interested in thinking or facts.

 

[Motspur Hotspur]

The Tories are talking about restricting immigration to those earning over £30,000 a year.

The NHS can not cope now, it's skint. Waiting lists get ever longer, minor surgeries are now not provided as they are deemed to be cosmetic, you can wait 12 hours for an ambulance.

Agency nurses and doctors need to be used to fill the gaps, now they will have to employ agency staff to do all the shit jobs the low paid European staff do now like cleaning up blood and vomit, feeding patients, helping the confused old folks who should be looked after in care homes - which will now become even more expensive because they too rely on low paid European staff.

Fully qualified nurses start on salaries of £22,128 - so the thousands of Irish nurses, Polish, Romanian and other EU nurses will be barred from working here.

I've spent a bit of time in hospital over the last few years and I find myself apologising to the many European staff members who looked after me and saved my life, sorry that the nazis have voted that they hate you, they do not represent the majority of this country, sorry.

Even if you chose to ignore the absolute fact that migrants from the EU are vital to the UK services industries, agricultural and transport - have you ever stayed in a hotel, eaten in a restaurant, had a parcel delivered? Even if you were sitting there waiting for the day when you could get your Mosley poster out, wear you blackshirt and armband with pride, surely just the thought of the NHS being screwed over would make you think for just one second that your precious Brexit would not be as triiifc as you thought it would? Not happening I suppose as Brexit supporters are really not interested in thinking or facts.

Doesn't matter it will be privatised next year.

 

[Yid]

Doesn't matter it will be privatised next year.

Yayyyyy.....!!!

 

[Dorset]

Doesn't matter it will be privatised next year.

An even worse outcome than Brexit - the two are linked of course and the loonies will found out just how nice their bestie Trump really is.

I don't think it will happen though, because despite my hatred of the facists, I am optimistic that a sensible opposition will rise from the rubble of this fcuk up and eventually the Tories will be banished forever., the UK will rejoin the EU (without all the lovely advantages we have now) and the nazi Brexiters can find someone else to hate/blame. Sadly the magic Grandpa could never win an election - how bad is that? We have the worst government in the history of the country and that evil old witch is still polling higher figures than Corbyn! Starmer for PM - save the NHS!

 

[Dorset]

Yayyyyy.....!!!
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Who is that money being spent on though? Costs ain't spending - and when we have to pay the same sort of prices the yanks do for their drugs - will there be yellow jackets on the streets? Probably and it will be the Brexit mob wearing them, I expect they will want Brexit from the rest of the World then, pull up the drawbridge!

 

[Yid]

An even worse outcome than Brexit - the two are linked of course and the loonies will found out just how nice their bestie Trump really is.

I don't think it will happen though, because despite my hatred of the facists, I am optimistic that a sensible opposition will rise from the rubble of this fcuk up and eventually the Tories will be banished forever., the UK will rejoin the EU (without all the lovely advantages we have now) and the nazi Brexiters can find someone else to hate/blame. Sadly the magic Grandpa could never win an election - how bad is that? We have the worst government in the history of the country and that evil old witch is still polling higher figures than Corbyn! Starmer for PM - save the NHS!

Literally any person.... let alone party could come out and say they they would deliver what people actually want and romp home, virtually unchallenged. Give them democracy, representation and political reform and you win in a landslide.

This is turning into a bit of an echo chamber in here... I understand people may not want to talk about politics on a football forum, but it does kinda matter and I dont much do surfing the web for politics based websites.

 

[Yid]

Who is that money being spent on though? Costs ain't spending - and when we have to pay the same sort of prices the yanks do for their drugs - will there be yellow jackets on the streets? Probably and it will be the Brexit mob wearing them, I expect they will want Brexit from the rest of the World then, pull up the drawbridge!

Just had a wee route round the web and you'd have cost yourself 45k to fix your ropey ticker. That's just the op and hozzy stay. Not the meds you probably still take and any of the follow up appointments or procedures.

Now I couldn't find the 9 grand a year per head in those yanks figures... I'd struggle to find the 3k Italian ones.... for myself.

Now factor in a wife and 2 kids and everything else costing a shit load more becuse we told the Europe's to stick their union and trade deals up their hoops.

I'm happy to pay a few pennies every time I earn a few quid to a social fund. I wouldnt even mind paying a couple more r recieve better care for me and all my loved ones. I know a good deal when I see one.

 

[Dorset]

The wonderful world of Brexit brings you - 3,500 troops ready for a no deal Brexit. What the actual fuck is going on? The lying cunts promised a beautiful land of milk and honey, easy trade deals, £350m per week for the NHS, now it's we'll manage to survive because we survived the blitz and troops on the streets of the UK. This is stark raving fucking mental.

 

[Rev John Ripsher]

The wonderful world of Brexit brings you - 3,500 troops ready for a no deal Brexit. What the actual fuck is going on? The lying cunts promised a beautiful land of milk and honey, easy trade deals, £350m per week for the NHS, now it's we'll manage to survive because we survived the blitz and troops on the streets of the UK. This is stark raving fucking mental.

A complete non-story, troops are always on stand-by. Do you actually believe everything you read?

Have you noticed how I managed to disagree with you, without calling you a nazi or a cunt?

 

[Yid]

Who was it that mentioned sovereignty and didnt understand it........? Anyway...

 

[Rev John Ripsher]

MEP's are toothless, they cannot suggest legislation. That can only come from the unelected commision. It is said that it can hold the commision to account but that rarely, if ever, happens.

It is often said that we have zero influence in that parliament, just ask Nigel Farage or Dan Hannon. We have voted several hundred times against legislation only to be voted down every single time.

Zero influence.

We are leaving, get used to it.

 

[Yid]

MEP's are toothless, they cannot suggest legislation. That can only come from the unelected commision. It is said that it can hold the commision to account but that rarely, if ever, happens.

It is often said that we have zero influence in that parliament, just ask Nigel Farage or Dan Hannon. We have voted several hundred times against legislation only to be voted down every single time.

Zero influence.

We are leaving, get used to it.

Soz pal I wont get used to it. I won't stop trying to educate those who are too dim to realise they are doing damage to their country. I bet you call yourself patriotic dont ya... hahaha...!!!

It doesnt matter how hard you "believe" in the UK. 99 out of 100 ratified expert studies show that the UK will be weaker and poorer under any other arrangements than what we curently enjoy. I wont quote any of them, or post links because they are readily available and you dont care a fuck.

You are happy to bury your head in the sand and it seems more worried about being "the winner" or not being shown to be wrong than doing what is right for you, your kids and generations to come... it smacks of pig headed selfishness or stupidity beyond repeal.

Keep listening to Farage... he is a bigoted piece of shit.
Good job Hannan is trust worthy though.... oh wait, half a million of EU funds siphoned off...

Try again...

 

[Rev John Ripsher]

Your patronising attitude towards anyone who has an opposing viewpoint smacks of you calling them village idiots.

You need to get yourself off the EU teat.

 

[Yid]

Your patronising attitude towards anyone who has an opposing viewpoint smacks of you calling them village idiots.

First and foremost.... I say it how I see it.

MEP's are toothless, they cannot suggest legislation. That can only come from the unelected commision. It is said that it can hold the commision to account but that rarely, if ever, happens.

It is often said that we have zero influence in that parliament, just ask Nigel Farage or Dan Hannon. We have voted several hundred times against legislation only to be voted down every single time.

Zero influence.

We are leaving, get used to it.

That is patronising... which is why you got a semi shitty response.

You dont know what you are talking about. I wish you did because we could have a discussion. All I hear is soundbites, false confidence and right wing propaganda that has been hijacked by racists and bigots,

Try again...

 

[Dorset]

Soz pal I wont get used to it. I won't stop trying to educate those who are too dim to realise they are doing damage to their country. I bet you call yourself patriotic dont ya... hahaha...!!!

It doesnt matter how hard you "believe" in the UK. 99 out of 100 ratified expert studies show that the UK will be weaker and poorer under any other arrangements than what we curently enjoy. I wont quote any of them, or post links because they are readily available and you dont care a fuck.

You are happy to bury your head in the sand and it seems more worried about being "the winner" or not being shown to be wrong than doing what is right for you, your kids and generations to come... it smacks of pig headed selfishness or stupidity beyond repeal.

Keep listening to Farage... he is a bigoted piece of shit.
Good job Hannan is trust worthy though.... oh wait, half a million of EU funds siphoned off...

Try again...

They are the 'winners'. They won, they can wave their fucking flags and blame someone else when the country starts sliding down into the fucking sewer. They always blame someone else, that's what these cunts do. Who will be next when their precious fucking Brexit does not make their sad little hate filled lives better? I have seen these nazi cunts in different forms throughout my life - always the same, always blaming anybody but themselves. Different names but the same - NF, BNP, EDL, BF, UKIP, FLA, always lying, always poisonous, always cunts.

Of course they don't give a fuck about your kids or anybody else as long as they 'win' and the foreigners and anyone else different to them start fucking off home. Anybody who thinks this Brexit shit is political and should not be spoken of in forums will find out that it is not, I expect that's what they said in Berlin in the 1930s -' what do you think of that Hitler bloke?" , "oh that's politics, we don't talk politics". Extreme? Yeah, I get extreme when my family are being attacked, which is exactly how I see this. The future of my grand-children is being put into danger by flag waving morons and I will not fucking stand for that. Why the fuck would anyone just accept that the UK 'will survive Brexit' when the alternative is a 21st Century growing society with opportunities for all the younger generation? These cunts would never have the bollocks to work in Europe with all them foreigners, speaking foreign, so they hate the idea of anybody else doing what they could not do. They want to drag everybody else down to their level and stop freedom of movement, build a virtual wall and stop anybody leaving or coming in.

Never forgive, never forget.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

It takes an outsider to see it properly..... the amazing thing is it comes from Sky news.

Mate, are you fucking serious? You don’t even know who you are quoting. That woman’s name is Peta Credlin. She was the personal advisor to Tony Abbott, who is the most fascist cunt to have led an Australian government ever. The woman is one arm reach away from being a Nazi.

Just because she holds a job at Sky News in Australia doesn’t make her a balanced commentator.

 

[Dorset]

The thing that really makes me laugh is that Brexit will lead to increased immigration from non-European countries. All the bullshit about how Little England will only allow the brightest and the best to come to the new Paradise will quickly crumble to dust.

Modern, forward thinking countries in Europe will be offering fast-track citizenship to our brightest and best - 'Do you want freedom of movement over a whole continent? Would you like to live in a country with better health and social care? Do you want to earn more and pay less? Or do you want to stay locked into an isolated country sliding down the growth scale? Come to [country of choice] we have a future and are moving forwards not back into the 1940's'. European universities will be offering cheap, quality education to the folks who would have helped build the UK into a modern European country, cheerio brainy folks, Little England don't need no experts.

The howling mob who love Brexit so much will howl even louder when there is no cheap labour to do all the jobs those Euros used to do and prices soar, so Windrush 2.0 will start, millions of Asian immigrants will be shipped in. then the cunts will then start to demand that they are booted out - repeat until evolution starts working again.

I am going to try and stay alive for at least 20 more years just so I can watch, I'd better start stockpiling popcorn.

 

[Dorset]

Ooooh, non-Brexit. Yeah, really, other stuff is going on.

Another example of how the UK political system is fucked beyond belief, leaving aside that fact that the government is not governing, the opposition is not opposing, the unelected head of state can do nothing to stop the cunts (both sides) ignoring what's best for the country and just working for their own personal gains and the unelected upper house being toothless - and the fundamentally undemocratic FPTP bollocks::

Labour MP Fiona Onasanya was found guilty of perverting the course of justice - she has been urged to resign as MP. Urged to resign? How the fuck can an MP not be instantly removed when they are found guilty of a serious crime? It's even worse in the Lords, get in there and you're set for life, it doesn't matter what crime you commit. Fucked up is what it is.

 

[Motspur Hotspur]

EU closing tax loopholes in Jersey, IoM etc that's all I'm saying...

 

[Dorset]

Valdimir Putin used his annual televised press conference to say the UK should not hold a second referendum insisting May must “fulfil the will of the people”.

 

[Motspur Hotspur]

 

[Yid]

Mate, are you fucking serious? You don’t even know who you are quoting. That woman’s name is Peta Credlin. She was the personal advisor to Tony Abbott, who is the most fascist cunt to have led an Australian government ever. The woman is one arm reach away from being a Nazi.

Just because she holds a job at Sky News in Australia doesn’t make her a balanced commentator.

Point..... In..... Case.....!!!

People are either 1 of 2 things.... either simply believing what they want to believe because it already suits their shitty values and agendas.... or too proud to admit they were wrong and either to thick or stubborn to re-educate themselves.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

@Yid

Sky News in Australia is little more than an echo-chamber of far right nutters. Credlin has one agenda and that is to re-position Tony Abbott as a viable leader. And her sole method of doing this is by marshalling the intellectually vacant. Events like Brexit give her perfect ammunition and she has been milking it dry in order to get her point across.

She really is a despicable piece of work. The poor, hapless Rev has made his entire argument redundant there.

 

[Yid]

@Yid

Sky News in Australia is little more than an echo-chamber of far right nutters. Credlin has one agenda and that is to re-position Tony Abbott as a viable leader. And her sole method of doing this is by marshalling the intellectually vacant. Events like Brexit give her perfect ammunition and she has been milking it dry in order to get her point across.

She really is a despicable piece of work. The poor, hapless Rev has made his entire argument redundant there.

Yeah thanks bro.... I've had a good read up on her since that video was posted... vile piece of shit imo.

For those who dont know exactly what is behind the discord being pedaled and who is actually pulling your strings look no further.....

Your bias is being exploited for a diferent agenda.

 

[BrooklynYid]

All right, which one of you is the smarty pants with the drone?

 

[Motspur Hotspur]

thought just popped in there with all this Vlad chatter, I'm wondering if a peoples vote is being denied because the politicians can't guarantee it won't effected like last time.

Here's my take. TM is running down the clock and will withdraw A50 at the 11th hour, in doing so she guarantees we will remain part of the EU with the kicker that any nutter who tries to invoke it again will be left with no time to get ready and thus imminent economic failure, nuclear deterrent for economics! Either that or the politicians want to open up the health market to privatisation so they can make billions on the pharmaceuticals, insurance and hospital care... oh.

 

[Yid]

thought just popped in there with all this Vlad chatter, I'm wondering if a peoples vote is being denied because the politicians can't guarantee it won't effected like last time.

Here's my take. TM is running down the clock and will withdraw A50 at the 11th hour, in doing so she guarantees we will remain part of the EU with the kicker that any nutter who tries to invoke it again will be left with no time to get ready and thus imminent economic failure, nuclear deterrent for economics! Either that or the politicians want to open up the health market to privatisation so they can make billions on the pharmaceuticals, insurance and hospital care... oh.

You insinuate that TM does have a plan after all...

It could pan out like that mate...

No doubt the superpowers are pissing them selves at our demise.

 

[Rev John Ripsher]

To be perfectly honest I doubt very much whether anyone outside of the EU actually gives a toss.

 

[Dorset]

When this fuckup happened, I though that the Brexit supporters had been misled and would realise that. I thought that when the obvious £350m a week to the NHS lie was exposed they would see that they had been conned and act like sensible human beings. Now, after all the lies have been exposed, the Russian interference, the illegality of the leave campaign and the facts have been made clear, there is only one reason anyone would double down on stupidity and actively support the catastrophe of 'no deal'- they are facist, nazi, foreigner hating retards.

Ask a Brexiter about the WTO, how many countries trade with the WTO alone, what the tariffs are, how they would affect the UK and how many of these countries the stupid sheep think we will get amazing deals with have deals in place with the EU - which we, as part of the EU benefit from and will not after they get their precious Brexit?

Ask them who their regional MEPS are. Ask them what the rules about immigration are and if the UK applies those rules. Ask them to name one EU law that personally affects their lives, you could also ask them about the EU rules that have made everybody's lives safer but that would be futile because they are blinded by hatred. Ask them how UK sovereignty is impaired by being a member of the EU. Ask them if they believe the countless number of experts who predict that the UK will be significantly worse off by leaving the EU. Ask them if they prefer the business opinions of Farage whose only polices are kicking out the Europeans (expect his German wife of course) and getting smoking back in pubs so lung cancer can be shared equally among the staff who work in them over the views of the Director General of the CBI. Ask them if they think the UK would be trusted by any other country if we refused to pay for commitments already made and kept the £39bn.

Then ask them if they think the EU immigrants are causing all the problems with the NHS. You could also ask them if they think EU countries suffering some pain because of Brexit filled them with joy.