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NiceOneCyril

NiceOneCyril

Well-Known Member
In 17 months, I've gone from some of the happiest memories in my Spurs supporting life under Poch to now not really caring very much at all.

If Covid, racism, poverty and the environment and their associated impacts on Global society have taught us anything, it's that football really isn't very important and that clearly some of the people associated with it are much less important than that. Greed and a disrespect for it's consequences is a very bad thing and we as a club appear to have that vice in spades.
The trouble is, football IS important to so many people. So many of us have dedicated so much time to it over the years at all levels - as players, parents, club managers, coaches, referees etc., and of course as fans. And now to have it all undermined because of the greed of an already impossibly wealthy hegemony at the top of the tree feels incredibly spiteful and vicious. And worst of all, it's been done in the name of MY club, so that we and the fans of the other five are tarred with the same despicably dirty brush. I'm so angry I could throw up.
 
Style And Glory

Style And Glory

On My High Trojan Horse
Founding Member
The contrast in style between JM & JN is vast. And it's highlighted by Tyler Adams' quote near the bottom of the article. We need someone like JN that can instill a philosophy, confidence & a fearlessness to play to your maximum ability. Make the game fun again.

From Sky Sports:


skysports-adam-bate-football_4713425.jpg

Adam Bate
Comment and Analysis @ghostgoal
Tuesday 20 April 2021 13:44, UK



GETTY PIC  1219611069

Image:RB Leipzig head coach Julian Nagelsmann is exactly the sort of coach Tottenham should be looking to


Replacing a two-time Champions League winner, a three-time Premier League-winning coach, with a man whose only silverware so far has come with Hoffenheim U19s, would seem, on the face of it, a faddish appointment. It might also be the smartest move that Daniel Levy and Tottenham could possibly make.
Jose Mourinho himself would once have understood the logic of it instinctively. It is not about what you have done in the past, it is about what you are going to do next. Julian Nagelsmann, mini Mourinho as he was once famously labelled, promises much more.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...-league-win-over-slavia-prague?obOrigUrl=true
During the course of his last couple of jobs, Mourinho has appeared to talk himself into obsolescence, his thoughts on the modern player veering between ambivalence and disdain. It was tantamount to an admission that he could no longer motivate the current generation.

Jamie Carragher does not think Jose Mourinho will manage in England again
At 33, Nagelsmann is almost of that generation. His youth is an asset. A charismatic communicator, he has shown himself able to inspire, while displaying an emotional maturity that belies his inexperience. He can connect with players. He understands them.
Having taken Hoffenheim from the relegation zone to the top four while embracing that club's instinct for innovation, Nagelsmann showed his versatility by translating that success to RB Leipzig as well. They have usurped Dortmund as Bayern Munich's closest rivals.

The feeling persists that Hansi Flick's impending departure from Bayern will likely allow Nagelsmann to take his next step within the Bundesliga. But Spurs must explore the option. After the retrograde step of turning to Mourinho, this would be the progressive choice.

Carra: Jose finished in England

Carra: Jose finished in England​

Jamie Carragher says Jose Mourinho's "ship has sailed" on his Premier League managerial career

So what is the Nagelsmann way? He is not above a few tricks to jolt players out of their comfort zone. Speaking to United States international Tyler Adams earlier this season, he admitted to being thrown by not knowing the starting line-up until just before kick-off.

"When I first found out that we would not be getting the line up until 30 minutes before the game, I was like, 'What is happening here? This is ridiculous," he told Sky Sports.
"I want to be able to prepare mentally. But now I am at a point where you are at peace with it. You realise that you have to work hard throughout the week leading up to that 30-minute mark just before kick-off. You stay tuned in to the details.
"I think that has created a very good team spirit because everybody is supporting each other now and when we get that team line-up on the board, of course you are going to be disappointed if you're not playing, but you are supporting the player who is playing.
"You have to do that in order to create a successful team."
RB Leipzig's Tyler Adams

Image:Tyler Adams has explained to Sky Sports what makes Nagelsmann so good

While that might seem like a cheap stunt - a psychological conceit - Nagelsmann has emerged as a true student of the game with a deep knowledge and a passion for tactics. His exhaustive match preparation in search of that edge has impressed his players.
"His game-plan detail is so specific to what he wants to do," explained Adams. "Whether it is attacking this specific space or playing a certain pass this way to this player's foot, on the spot, if we do this exactly, this is going to make us a successful team.
"A lot of the games where we do best in is where we follow the plan best in. From a tactical perspective, his variations to the way we play, he is just very intelligent."

Nagelsmann has switched between a back three and a back four at Leipzig this season, adjusting his approach to suit the demands of the game. Adams himself has had to adapt between positions, being deployed at right-back and in the centre of midfield.
"In this team now, he has not said it straight out, but you have to be able to play multiple positions. You have to have a flexibility to your game. These multiple roles have really helped me tactically to understand the game at a different level."
RB Leipzig head coach Julian Nagelsmann

Image:Julian Nagelsmann is a tactically-savvy coach who finds ways to motivate too

Mourinho, of course, is noted for his tactical understanding of the game but his approach is very different. "We do not have the same philosophy," said Nagelsmann on the eve of eliminating Mourinho's Spurs from the Champions League. Leipzig won 4-0 on aggregate.
In a sense, the fact that he was chosen by Leipzig at all reflects that key point of difference. Nagelsmann joined the club in 2018 after fielding a call from Real Madrid only to decide that he did not feel ready to pursue that opportunity. He is fluent in English not Spanish.
But that reluctance also owed to the feeling that Leipzig would allow him to play his way. His beliefs aligned with the high pressing instituted within the Red Bull organisation by Ralf Rangnick. Nagelsmann has evolved the idea, making it more complete.

"Under Julian, we play a variation of the idea and the philosophy that we once had. We don't lose the defensive side of our game, the quick transition, the pressing moments, that side of things, but with the ball we are a much stronger team. We can possess the ball in difficult moments, we can pass our way out of certain situations.
"That is where Julian's tactical ideas really come into play because he wants us to be brave on the ball and to take risks in certain situations. He knows that sometimes it is not going to pay off and we might not succeed but he is not afraid of us making mistakes.
"He trusts in our abilities."

That trust was something Mourinho lacked and lost. It is a trust sorely needed at Tottenham as they look to correct course and rediscover the vibrant team that captured the imagination under another forward-thinking coach in Mauricio Pochettino.

Daniel Levy had long wanted Mourinho. He found him far too late. The man dubbed mini Mourinho would be more timely but he is very different to the departing coach. No matter. Continuity is not what is needed. Julian Nagelsmann might be just what is required at Spurs.
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

Zero tolerance of Numpty's
Founding Member
.....Bayern Munich are going to need a new manager in the Summer, which might be a factor eh? Shame
 
J

Jason Forde

New Member
The 4 managers i would like to see at spurs, Erik ten Hag (Ajax ),Julian Nagelsmann (R B Leipzig),Brendan Rodgers (Leicester) or Graham Potter (Brighton).
 
Motspur Hotspur

Motspur Hotspur

Well-Known Member
The 4 managers i would like to see at spurs, Erik ten Hag (Ajax ),Julian Nagelsmann (R B Leipzig),Brendan Rodgers (Leicester) or Graham Potter (Brighton).
Yes, yes, absolutely not and why?
 
J

Jason Forde

New Member
The contrast in style between JM & JN is vast. And it's highlighted by Tyler Adams' quote near the bottom of the article. We need someone like JN that can instill a philosophy, confidence & a fearlessness to play to your maximum ability. Make the game fun again.

From Sky Sports:


skysports-adam-bate-football_4713425.jpg

Adam Bate
Comment and Analysis @ghostgoal
Tuesday 20 April 2021 13:44, UK



GETTY PIC  1219611069

Image:RB Leipzig head coach Julian Nagelsmann is exactly the sort of coach Tottenham should be looking to


Replacing a two-time Champions League winner, a three-time Premier League-winning coach, with a man whose only silverware so far has come with Hoffenheim U19s, would seem, on the face of it, a faddish appointment. It might also be the smartest move that Daniel Levy and Tottenham could possibly make.
Jose Mourinho himself would once have understood the logic of it instinctively. It is not about what you have done in the past, it is about what you are going to do next. Julian Nagelsmann, mini Mourinho as he was once famously labelled, promises much more.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...-league-win-over-slavia-prague?obOrigUrl=true
During the course of his last couple of jobs, Mourinho has appeared to talk himself into obsolescence, his thoughts on the modern player veering between ambivalence and disdain. It was tantamount to an admission that he could no longer motivate the current generation.

Jamie Carragher does not think Jose Mourinho will manage in England again
At 33, Nagelsmann is almost of that generation. His youth is an asset. A charismatic communicator, he has shown himself able to inspire, while displaying an emotional maturity that belies his inexperience. He can connect with players. He understands them.
Having taken Hoffenheim from the relegation zone to the top four while embracing that club's instinct for innovation, Nagelsmann showed his versatility by translating that success to RB Leipzig as well. They have usurped Dortmund as Bayern Munich's closest rivals.

The feeling persists that Hansi Flick's impending departure from Bayern will likely allow Nagelsmann to take his next step within the Bundesliga. But Spurs must explore the option. After the retrograde step of turning to Mourinho, this would be the progressive choice.

Carra: Jose finished in England

Carra: Jose finished in England

Jamie Carragher says Jose Mourinho's "ship has sailed" on his Premier League managerial career
So what is the Nagelsmann way? He is not above a few tricks to jolt players out of their comfort zone. Speaking to United States international Tyler Adams earlier this season, he admitted to being thrown by not knowing the starting line-up until just before kick-off.

"When I first found out that we would not be getting the line up until 30 minutes before the game, I was like, 'What is happening here? This is ridiculous," he told Sky Sports.
"I want to be able to prepare mentally. But now I am at a point where you are at peace with it. You realise that you have to work hard throughout the week leading up to that 30-minute mark just before kick-off. You stay tuned in to the details.
"I think that has created a very good team spirit because everybody is supporting each other now and when we get that team line-up on the board, of course you are going to be disappointed if you're not playing, but you are supporting the player who is playing.
"You have to do that in order to create a successful team."
RB Leipzig's Tyler Adams

Image:Tyler Adams has explained to Sky Sports what makes Nagelsmann so good

While that might seem like a cheap stunt - a psychological conceit - Nagelsmann has emerged as a true student of the game with a deep knowledge and a passion for tactics. His exhaustive match preparation in search of that edge has impressed his players.
"His game-plan detail is so specific to what he wants to do," explained Adams. "Whether it is attacking this specific space or playing a certain pass this way to this player's foot, on the spot, if we do this exactly, this is going to make us a successful team.
"A lot of the games where we do best in is where we follow the plan best in. From a tactical perspective, his variations to the way we play, he is just very intelligent."

Nagelsmann has switched between a back three and a back four at Leipzig this season, adjusting his approach to suit the demands of the game. Adams himself has had to adapt between positions, being deployed at right-back and in the centre of midfield.
"In this team now, he has not said it straight out, but you have to be able to play multiple positions. You have to have a flexibility to your game. These multiple roles have really helped me tactically to understand the game at a different level."
RB Leipzig head coach Julian Nagelsmann

Image:Julian Nagelsmann is a tactically-savvy coach who finds ways to motivate too

Mourinho, of course, is noted for his tactical understanding of the game but his approach is very different. "We do not have the same philosophy," said Nagelsmann on the eve of eliminating Mourinho's Spurs from the Champions League. Leipzig won 4-0 on aggregate.
In a sense, the fact that he was chosen by Leipzig at all reflects that key point of difference. Nagelsmann joined the club in 2018 after fielding a call from Real Madrid only to decide that he did not feel ready to pursue that opportunity. He is fluent in English not Spanish.
But that reluctance also owed to the feeling that Leipzig would allow him to play his way. His beliefs aligned with the high pressing instituted within the Red Bull organisation by Ralf Rangnick. Nagelsmann has evolved the idea, making it more complete.

"Under Julian, we play a variation of the idea and the philosophy that we once had. We don't lose the defensive side of our game, the quick transition, the pressing moments, that side of things, but with the ball we are a much stronger team. We can possess the ball in difficult moments, we can pass our way out of certain situations.
"That is where Julian's tactical ideas really come into play because he wants us to be brave on the ball and to take risks in certain situations. He knows that sometimes it is not going to pay off and we might not succeed but he is not afraid of us making mistakes.
"He trusts in our abilities."

That trust was something Mourinho lacked and lost. It is a trust sorely needed at Tottenham as they look to correct course and rediscover the vibrant team that captured the imagination under another forward-thinking coach in Mauricio Pochettino.

Daniel Levy had long wanted Mourinho. He found him far too late. The man dubbed mini Mourinho would be more timely but he is very different to the departing coach. No matter. Continuity is not what is needed. Julian Nagelsmann might be just what is required at Spurs.
Agree Julian Nagelsmann, Erik ten Hag (Ajax),Brendan Rodgers (Leicester) or Graham Potter (Brighton).
 
ClemFandango

ClemFandango

Lord High Chief of the Privvy
Founding Member
Agree Julian Nagelsmann, Erik ten Hag (Ajax),Brendan Rodgers (Leicester) or Graham Potter (Brighton).
Yep, agree there. I'd take any one of those.

If it comes down to money, it'll end up being Potter because the amount of money it would take to secure any of the other three will be enormous - especially with Rodgers.
 
J

Jason Forde

New Member
Yep, agree there. I'd take any one of those.

If it comes down to money, it'll end up being Potter because the amount of money it would take to secure any of the other three will be enormous - especially with Rodgers.
I like you, you know, agree and see sense and knowledge of game and managers.
 
J.spurs

J.spurs

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
Seeing a lot of talk about Roberto Martinez--the timing would be right for him after the Euros. I like any of the four that this Jason Forde prick has named, particularly Ten Hag. Hopefully our run-in under the fellow in the hot seat at the moment will give the idiots in charge something to think about.
 
J

Jason Forde

New Member
Seeing a lot of talk about Roberto Martinez--the timing would be right for him after the Euros. I like any of the four that this Jason Forde prick has named, particularly Ten Hag. Hopefully our run-in under the fellow in the hot seat at the moment will give the idiots in charge something to think about.
You see me swearing you fucking mug cunt. I don't care if your know God, Jesus,Satan or Lucifer. Me and you can meet anywhere. What the fuck you know about football.
 
J

Jason Forde

New Member
You see me swearing you fucking mug cunt. I don't care if your know God, Jesus,Satan or Lucifer. Me and you can meet anywhere. What the fuck you know about football.
Put your fucking four managers up then.
 
Yid

Yid

Moderator
Founding Member
You see me swearing you fucking mug cunt. I don't care if your know God, Jesus,Satan or Lucifer. Me and you can meet anywhere. What the fuck you know about football.
Loooooollll, you fucking tell him the god fearing mug cunt...

If you're gonna meet though can I just mention social distancing...! Rules is rules...
 
J.spurs

J.spurs

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
You see me swearing you fucking mug cunt. I don't care if your know God, Jesus,Satan or Lucifer. Me and you can meet anywhere. What the fuck you know about football.
Sorry, my mother won't let me meet up with random dudes from the internet anymore.
 
J.spurs

J.spurs

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
Is this Jason Forde the return of the Varney Shakerer geezer or a different other god bothering mug cunt? I really miss our spiritual guru.
Nah he probably eats way too many onions to be enlightened. I won't speculate about illicit sex.
 
J

Jason Forde

New Member
Seeing a lot of talk about Roberto Martinez--the timing would be right for him after the Euros. I like any of the four that this Jason Forde prick has named, particularly Ten Hag. Hopefully our run-in under the fellow in the hot seat at the moment will give the idiots in charge something to think about.
Who you calling prick, you see me swearing. I ain't know keyboard warrior, but if you wanna meet up its cool by me.
 
J

Jason Forde

New Member
Listen you middle class, upper class prick. I don't care if or what i spealt wrong. Your a siily cunt who is a wind up merchant, fake football fan, fake spurs fan. Bring back Oliver Cromwell English Civil war days. So can kick you middle class upper class heads in.
 
J

Jason Forde

New Member
It's not in the rules of the forum perse, but please ensure your posts are grammatically correct before posting.

Again please remember social distancing rules.
i bet you support gays and nonces with pic of who ever on bike on your post.
 
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