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Aston Fulham (H) PL Weds 13th Jan 2021 20.15

The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

The Aussie Yid
About sums it up. Well, that and your previous post. For a manager that is supposedly some sort of tactics guru, we have no plan, patterns of play, or a clue what to do when we’re in possession. Bottom line is that if we didn’t have two of the best attacking players in Europe in the team, we’d be mid-table. For all the talk about Scotty and Fulham struggling to get things sorted on short notice, it was clear who did the better job preparing.

The fucking guy Mourinho sacrificed Sissoko's best qualities to play him on the wing. Meanwhile the most expensive winger in the history of football sat on our bench for 90 minutes.

And this is not to twist the knife into Winks, who is a proper Yid and a good guy, but is there a more vanilla sonofabitch in European football than Harry Winks? He does ok things, doesn't make too many errors but exerts precisely no fucking influence over a game of football. Sissoko should have been there, next to his Danish mate and a proper attacking player up front.

And as for Dele, does Mourinho have daughters or something? Did Dele fuck one of them on Mourinho's kitchen counter? Because what is happening with a magnificent young player on Mourinho's watch is a criminal offense.
 
J.spurs

J.spurs

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The fucking guy Mourinho sacrificed Sissoko's best qualities to play him on the wing. Meanwhile the most expensive winger in the history of football sat on our bench for 90 minutes.

And this is not to twist the knife into Winks, who is a proper Yid and a good guy, but is there a more vanilla sonofabitch in European football than Harry Winks? He does ok things, doesn't make too many errors but exerts precisely no fucking influence over a game of football. Sissoko should have been there, next to his Danish mate and a proper attacking player up front.

And as for Dele, does Mourinho have daughters or something? Did Dele fuck one of them on Mourinho's kitchen counter? Because what is happening with a magnificent young player on Mourinho's watch is a criminal offense.
For me Winks is a decent player to have when we're dominating possession--keeps the ball moving nice and tidy to our more creative players. But he doesn't fit Mourinho's style at all, and it's fucking ludicrous that Dele, who I guess doesn't either for different reasons, is the player who's getting frozen out.
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
So predictable, I know a gnat's pube more than fuck-all about football tactics, but I could coach a team to stop us winning. Dele showed some creativity in the cup game, on the bench, Bale at his current 50% level could provide some flair, on the bench. The football we are playing at the moment looks like kids in the playground, boot it up the other end, chase after it, lose it then leg it back.
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

Zero tolerance of Numpty's
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Spurs shouldn't make me this fucking grumpy... Its not why I signed up...!
nailed it.
And the notion that N'dombele can't play 90 minutes is horseshit. He should never have been substituted when we were chasing the game.
No he should have been substituted at 60 minutes, he offered almost nothing last night and got bullied. There was Moura, Bale and Dele on the bench to try and win the game.......Moura or Bale for Sissoko who for some fucking reason was picked as an attacking player on the right wing last night, and Dele for N'Dombele to add creativity from an attacking midfield position, who does that cunt bring on Covid Lamela. Seriously?
 
BrooklynYid

BrooklynYid

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Honestly, it does matter who he plays or who he subs on. It's the way the players are being coached to play that is the fucking problem. It's like we're Celtic playing against Barca, but we're playing Barca every fucking match. Would it be so wrong to win a game 3-1 or 4-0 but concede more chances? I would be comfortable with that.
 
spurious

spurious

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What follows is heresy. Please believe me when I insist that I am in no way a Mou supporter. But...I thought we played quite well in the first half. Our forwards couldn't finish, Aurier got skinned a few times and Hojbjerg needs a rest. Winks is what he is (Scotty Parker redux) and Sanchez is no better than "pretty good". Ndombélé and Reggie were terrific.

Then Lookman changed the game. Aurier couldn't live with him, Sanchez was out of his depth, and Hojbjerg was knackered.

Not a great game, but I think it's more that Fulham played out of their skins. I actually think the precious one might be right when he claims he's not coaching them to sit back.

We need to get better, and need an upgrade or two. And the Dele thing mystifies me. But as much as I loathe Mou, I think there's plenty of blame...and a fair bit of praise...to go around. We're six points off the lead, two games from the halfway mark. We're in this (and the cups)!
 
J.spurs

J.spurs

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What follows is heresy. Please believe me when I insist that I am in no way a Mou supporter. But...I thought we played quite well in the first half. Our forwards couldn't finish, Aurier got skinned a few times and Hojbjerg needs a rest. Winks is what he is (Scotty Parker redux) and Sanchez is no better than "pretty good". Ndombélé and Reggie were terrific.

Then Lookman changed the game. Aurier couldn't live with him, Sanchez was out of his depth, and Hojbjerg was knackered.

Not a great game, but I think it's more that Fulham played out of their skins. I actually think the precious one might be right when he claims he's not coaching them to sit back.

We need to get better, and need an upgrade or two. And the Dele thing mystifies me. But as much as I loathe Mou, I think there's plenty of blame...and a fair bit of praise...to go around. We're six points off the lead, two games from the halfway mark. We're in this (and the cups)!
Fair, but we’re just always so passive after halftime that it’s clear what the instructions are.
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
What follows is heresy. Please believe me when I insist that I am in no way a Mou supporter. But...I thought we played quite well in the first half. Our forwards couldn't finish, Aurier got skinned a few times and Hojbjerg needs a rest. Winks is what he is (Scotty Parker redux) and Sanchez is no better than "pretty good". Ndombélé and Reggie were terrific.

Then Lookman changed the game. Aurier couldn't live with him, Sanchez was out of his depth, and Hojbjerg was knackered.

Not a great game, but I think it's more that Fulham played out of their skins. I actually think the precious one might be right when he claims he's not coaching them to sit back.

We need to get better, and need an upgrade or two. And the Dele thing mystifies me. But as much as I loathe Mou, I think there's plenty of blame...and a fair bit of praise...to go around. We're six points off the lead, two games from the halfway mark. We're in this (and the cups)!
Nope. We played OK in the first half, OK is not good enough for a title challenge. Less than 50% wins in our first 17 games is abysmal. A 50% win rate gets you 6th, and we would need to improve significantly to get up to that level - with the squad we have that is pathetic. It shouldn't matter how well Fulham played - it was fucking Fulham and with the quality we have they should never have been allowed to play well. The blame is all on Moronio.
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

Zero tolerance of Numpty's
Founding Member
What follows is heresy. Please believe me when I insist that I am in no way a Mou supporter. But...I thought we played quite well in the first half. Our forwards couldn't finish, Aurier got skinned a few times and Hojbjerg needs a rest. Winks is what he is (Scotty Parker redux) and Sanchez is no better than "pretty good". Ndombélé and Reggie were terrific.

Then Lookman changed the game. Aurier couldn't live with him, Sanchez was out of his depth, and Hojbjerg was knackered.

Not a great game, but I think it's more that Fulham played out of their skins. I actually think the precious one might be right when he claims he's not coaching them to sit back.

We need to get better, and need an upgrade or two. And the Dele thing mystifies me. But as much as I loathe Mou, I think there's plenty of blame...and a fair bit of praise...to go around. We're six points off the lead, two games from the halfway mark. We're in this (and the cups)!
It's not heresy, your opinion is as good as anyone else's, even when it's flawed ;). We did play well in the first half and so did Fulham, we were skinning their left back unfortunately Auriers crosses were mostly poor, but their keeper made a couple of world class saves and we only led 1-0, fantastic pass from Hojbjerg to Reguilon for the goal. I'm afraid that i don't agree with your N'dombele assessment, I thought he offered very little last night and got bullied occasionally by a big strong Fulham team.

There are no real excuses for the second half however, where we once again, for no obvious reason stopped playing and going forward. Why? to defend a 1-0 lead again? and then guess what, we got another Newcastle, West ham, Crystal palace, Wolves repeat. What's that definition of stupidity about doing the same thing and expecting a different result? That's 8 points right there, 6 if you say fair enough one of those is going to happen anyway.

I get the tactic against City - it was executed perfectly, Chelsea away, same, Arsenal same and blimey we had a cjance to beat Liverpool....but a manager assesses the opposition surely and develops a tactic to win. would anyone put City, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea in the same bracket as Fulham, Palace and Newcastle. why not keep playing, maybe we might concede but I'd bet we'd score a goal or two more and they wouldn't be able to come at us for 45 mins because we'd be pushing them back.

Finally last nights team selection in my view was a shambles - 2 attacking players in Kane and Son at home to Fulham. Sissoko playing right wing, and often ahead of Kane and Son, plus Winks, Hojbjerg and N'dombele, all of whom lacked Fulhams work rate and then when we needed a goal, with Bale, Dele and Moura on the bench Mourinho brings on Lamela - seriously? Why was Sanchez and Aurier on the pitch (at fault for their goal again),not Toby? None of it makes any sense to me and honestly it's killing me.

Sorry but that's the third time of watched a sorry story unfold after a bright start. How many more times does he need to see it before he decides to let the team play. We saw what we could do against Leeds - do the fucking same every week and we'll win games and score goals. Fuckety fucking fuck Mourinho.
 
Dave

Dave

Having the craic!
Founding Member
I think it's now got to the stage where if we go 1-0 up, the players get automatically nervy and make mistakes and panic. Why ? In my opinion, it's simply down to lack of instruction. They do not know what to do. Do we push forward and get a second ? or do we pack the midfield, and wait for a counter ? They're all over the place and they know it. They end up doing neither and concede as a result.
I think the senior players in the squad...Kane, Son, Dier, have got to confront Jose and ask him.."What the fuck do you want us to do, there's no plan" ..If Jose gets the hump, fuck him. Even by the players demeanor yesterday being interviewed (Kane & Hojbjerg especially),they're getting frustrated, and not so much at themselves.
10 points dropped from winning positions already this season.
I'm on the brink here lads, my eye is starting to twitch a bit...
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spurious

spurious

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All good points, and I was no happier than anyone else by the end. If I had my choice we'd still have Poch, or gone for Hasenhüttl, or Nuno, and let loose the dogs of war.

But I do have a grudging respect for defense-first sides like Simeone's, or even Watford when Deeney was in his pomp, so if we're stuck with this hand on the tiller, I'll see what intrigue I can distill from watching the transformation unfold.

We're on the floor between barstools at the moment, so it ain't pleasant, but going backward--or stagnating--won't work either. I try to resist wallowing in angry, spiteful, violent joy in my regular life, but don't mind it for a couple of hours at 15:00GMT on a Saturday.

Apologies for the proliferating metaphors...
 
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