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Dave

Dave

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And now, allegedly they want Tottenham to break away into this European super league. Bunch of greedy cunts, will ruin the club and it’s fanbase.

also, how the hell are we considered in this anyway, we are barely a decent club in England let alone in Europe.
Greedy fat cat cunts all patting each other on the back not giving a flying fuck about anyone but themselves. This is not about football. It's about money and status.
Just read that PSG, Bayern and Dortmund have declined. Respect to them.
 
Yid

Yid

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It'll fail if it happens... EUFA announcing a revamped and enlarged Chanpions league tomorrow... Big clubs just asking for more cash so others can't keep up...

How the fuck were involved in a league supposedly celebrating the best in auropean football I don't know...
 
Havocc

Havocc

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Catch 22.

on one hand, it will tear done English football as we know it...but on the other hand, the 3.5 billion euros initial paymeant would give us enough money to sack Jose
 
J.spurs

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Greedy fat cat cunts all patting each other on the back not giving a flying fuck about anyone but themselves. This is not about football. It's about money and status.
Just read that PSG, Bayern and Dortmund have declined. Respect to them.
In fairness, I read that clubs would accept some spending restrictions to join, which is probably a factor in PSG's decision.
 
H

Hav3Lions

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Worse, instead of all the league and cup matches, which we'll now be banned from, we'll get 22(?) instead. Am I reading this correctly?
 
Havocc

Havocc

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Daniel Levy knew this 10 years ago.

When did Spurs begin plans for a new stadium? 2009.
That’s when Wenger reported about the new Super League.

The stadium is the only reason we qualify for this.

That’s why we never spent any money in the windows.
 
Motspur Hotspur

Motspur Hotspur

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Daniel Levy knew this 10 years ago.

When did Spurs begin plans for a new stadium? 2009.
That’s when Wenger reported about the new Super League.

The stadium is the only reason we qualify for this.

That’s why we never spent any money in the windows.
And the perfect time to sell...
 
Yid

Yid

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Well, we've just binned one of the arch cunts... 66% of Spurs arch cunt quota to go...!!!
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
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agreed. ENIC has to go if we want our soul back.
Sadly it won't make any difference. Meet the new boss - the same as the old boss. Until English football adopts the German model of 51% fan ownership football will just be a product. I predict that this will happen - fucking never.
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

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agreed. ENIC has to go if we want our soul back.
The whole football soul is being sold eventually here......the other beneficiaries will be the players at the richest clubs. It will be all over soon enough in terms of football as we used to know it. Shame
 
Havocc

Havocc

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Me, next time I am at the lane (one of my favourite clips)

 
Yid

Yid

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So, with government potentially looking to intervene and many parties looking at the Bundasleague model of 51% fan ownership... effectively the club may have just halved in value...

This could be a cataclysmic fail if it has any truth, as it appears Levy may have just cost Lewis half a billion quid...!!!



 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
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So, with government potentially looking to intervene and many parties looking at the Bundasleague model of 51% fan ownership... effectively the club may have just halved in value...

This could be a cataclysmic fail if it has any truth, as it appears Levy may have just cost Lewis half a billion quid...!!!



Mate, the fucking Tories will NEVER take money from the rich. Of course they are talking about it, with all the sleaze and corruption that is being uncovered at the moment they can just answer any tough question with 'football, we're doing something about football' it's just a fucking squirrel like all the climate change plans. These cunts promised 13 years ago to build 200,000 affordable homes, the number completed so far is fuck all, zero, nada, nuffink, not a fucking sausage, diddly fucking squat. They have never come through on any of their promises and give far more fucks about mega rich Louis and Levy than they do about Joe Bloggs the fan. We can never join their club, even winning the lottery would not buy you membership, we are just pikeys and they fucking hate pikeys!
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

The Aussie Yid
Levy charging 60 quid to see Villa.

On top of everything else, this cunt is now brazenly giving the middle finger to the fans.
 
USspur

USspur

Player in Training.

The the proverbial tree falling in the forest, or the sound of no hands clapping, the prospect of Antonio Conte not joining Tottenham Hotspur has a certain paradoxical quality to it. Conte joining Tottenham: on some level, I suspect we all knew how this would pan out. The initial fire-streak of success; a brief title challenge; the inevitable implosion and acrimonious divorce, leaving only bittersweet memories and a squad packed with unshiftable 29-year-old wing-backs.

But Conte not joining: somehow this feels meaningful and epic in itself, a mini-tale of clashing egos and competing ambitions and insecurity and longing all packed into a week-long heavily briefed news cycle. And for all the disputed details of their courtship – are we really to believe Tottenham pulled the plug on one of the world’s best coaches out of concern for the development of Oliver Skipp? – there is a sense that even this apparent nonevent has subtly wrinkled the fabric of the universe.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...as-sporting-director-and-target-conte-reunion
Conte, of course, will be fine. Though he may be short of options right now, he has successfully positioned himself as the gold-embossed, club-class option for the next ailing super-club with a trophy drought and a Nasa-sized transfer budget. The sabre-rattling, the lavish demands, the fixation on instant success: for his part the last couple of weeks have just been a brand-burnishing exercise, a reminder to oligarchs the world over that the Conte luxury marque is still in business.

The more interesting question, really, is where this leaves Tottenham. Almost two months after José Mourinho was sacked Daniel Levy is still searching for his replacement. The chairman’s preferred option, Julian Nagelsmann, went to Bayern Munich. Hansi Flick took the German national job. Brendan Rodgers seems quite happy at Leicester for now. An eye-catching flirtation with Mauricio Pochettino appears to have come to nothing. In the midst of which, and seemingly at random, a new director of football (Fabio Paratici) has been hired from Juventus.


Now Conte has also spurned their advances, any prospective new manager will know that he or she is – at best – fifth choice. And, more tellingly, that Levy’s stated commitment to “free-flowing, attacking football” and youth development extends only as far as the next superstar coach who makes eyes at him. In many ways this is the tension that has defined the modern Tottenham: a club eternally caught between long-term processes and short-term obsessions, a team that for all its moderate success on the pitch still has no real idea what it wants to be.

Levy is the common denominator here, the common signature at the bottom of two decades of eclectic, reflex managerial hires. Mourinho’s confrontational pragmatism was a reaction to the inclusive idealism of Pochettino, which was a reaction to the British bluntness of Tim Sherwood, which was a reaction to the gnomic intellectualism of André Villas-Boas, which was a reaction to the homespun wisdom of Harry Redknapp, which was a reaction to the continental technocracy of Juande Ramos, and so on. Even the current farce has its own precedent from 2003-04, when the promised “thorough search” for Glenn Hoddle’s replacement – with names such as Vicente del Bosque, Klaus Toppmöller and Martin O’Neill all mooted – ended in the caretaker manager, David Pleat, remaining in charge for nine months.


Clearly Levy has a fine instinct for commerce. And yet in any normal business there would be some sort of reckoning for the serial errors that have occurred on his watch: a hierarchy to answer to, consequences to confront. Even the much-maligned Ed Woodward at Manchester United has to face the shareholders every few months. Levy, by contrast, operates a small circle of loyal nodding dogs, with an absentee owner in Joe Lewis who may as well be propped up by pillows and sticks. With fans locked out and largely ignored in any case, Levy basically has untrammelled power to keep messing up and getting away with it. How curious that the ninth richest club in the world has somehow ended in a position where the major footballing decisions are being taken by a guy who – with the greatest of respect – does not really seem to know that much about football. This much is evident from the club’s Amazon documentary, in which the normally reclusive Levy is clearly at pains to present himself as some superior footballing intellect, only to come across as the bloke who sits next to you on a plane and tells you about how he won the Champions League with Bolton on Football Manager.

And so the search goes on: led by Levy, assisted by Paratici or perhaps by Steve Hitchen, the head of recruitment who has just been demoted by Paratici’s arrival. Meanwhile Harry Kane drifts towards the exit, Son Heung-min will turn 29 without a club trophy to his name, Érik Lamela still collects a weekly wage and the under-23s lost 6-1 to Manchester City last month.

The pandemic has bitten hard; the stadium still needs paying for. And whether it is Erik ten Hag or Graham Potter or Roberto Martínez at the helm, Tottenham’s world feels just a little smaller this week, a little darker, a little less hopeful. A bright new dawn that turned out to be another illusion: insofar as the modern Tottenham does have an identity, this might just be it.
 
Havocc

Havocc

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Not too bad with all things considered. We came out of this mess much better than most and I suppose we have to acknowledge ENIC and Levy did look after us. It’s a really good statement, well written and puts a lot of things into perspective. Perhaps they are not as bad as we think…..
 
Dorset

Dorset

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Not too bad with all things considered. We came out of this mess much better than most and I suppose we have to acknowledge ENIC and Levy did look after us. It’s a really good statement, well written and puts a lot of things into perspective. Perhaps they are not as bad as we think…..
'We', 'Us' ??????? Do you mean Levy and ENIC, there ain't not, never no 'we' any more, it's just a money machine corporation. Errrm, with all due respect - fuck off with your ENIC and Levy 'looking after us'. Is Levy your uncle or something? The only thing that matters is the football and getting the right players - the football has been shite and the players bought by Levy have been for the most part......shite as well. The sacking of the Poch and hiring of 'that cunt' followed by the hiring of the only bloke left who hadn't turned Levy down were examples of mismanagement and incompetence. Fuck the finances, fuck Levy and fuck ENIC.
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

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Not too bad with all things considered. We came out of this mess much better than most and I suppose we have to acknowledge ENIC and Levy did look after us. It’s a really good statement, well written and puts a lot of things into perspective. Perhaps they are not as bad as we think…..
There are those who understand profit and loss, balance sheets, accruals and shareholder wealth and values way better than me and i know that they are very important in the local and global economies. But so are human beings, the climate and football fans that support their club as we that support Spurs. Of course it's nice to have one of the greatest stadiums in the world, beer that fills your cup from the bottom up and a micro brewery. But what would be even nicer would be to have a chairman who recognised the passion and support of those fans and gave something back, through at least trying to support one of the best managers we have had in decades, build a genuine squad of motivated players rather than wasting and gambling money on bin ends or trying to find a bargain and hoping it works like Steven Bergwijn. This 'genius' businessman has wasted more money following this route, than he would have done by investing properly. Ironically had he bought the likes of Ruben Diaz, Bruno Fernandes and others we would likely have qualified for Champions League these past two seasons and reaped the financial rewards he so desperately craves.

The other tell tale signs in all of this are the fact that no top flight manager wanted to join us in the Summer and fans like me who gave up their season tickets and rejoined as a member (in my case) were contacted about 5 weeks later and offered a season ticket - meaning there must have been thousands of us who'd had enough. I declined.

His 'appreciation' of the fans really just goes as far as how much can he milk from them. Anyone who goes or used to go regularly, would realise this from the ticket prices. I don't like West Ham as much as the next bloke, but recently they charged kids a quid for their last 16 League Cup match at home to Man City. The place was full and the PPikeys won on penalties - would never happen at Spurs. to even get a tcket these days you have to have a Client Reference number or pay a fee to be a member.

Levy has transformed the club during his tenure, some of it brilliantly, I used to be a big fan. But over the past 4-5 years he's revealed his true colours. He's not 'looking after us' he's looking after his own and ENIC's wealth. He needs to leave as soon as possible and give the club back to the fans. He can have the Stadium as his legacy. We'll have the team, the history and the football club thanks.
 
J.spurs

J.spurs

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'We', 'Us' ??????? Do you mean Levy and ENIC, there ain't not, never no 'we' any more, it's just a money machine corporation. Errrm, with all due respect - fuck off with your ENIC and Levy 'looking after us'. Is Levy your uncle or something? The only thing that matters is the football and getting the right players - the football has been shite and the players bought by Levy have been for the most part......shite as well. The sacking of the Poch and hiring of 'that cunt' followed by the hiring of the only bloke left who hadn't turned Levy down were examples of mismanagement and incompetence. Fuck the finances, fuck Levy and fuck ENIC.
Apart from the finances, Levy has created a real dilemma. He's hired one of the best managers in the world, yet the fans can't get too excited about it, because we all have no reason to think he'll get backed. Basically the press are assuming there will be money to spend because Conte wouldn’t have come otherwise, which is quite a big assumption.

I was listening to a podcast this morning, and one of the pundits was saying essentially, "surely Conte will be able to bring in several players, because the midfield is nowhere near good enough to play like he'd like.” I was thinking, what fucking club is this guy talking about? Ive seen nothing to convince me that this time will be any different (for club or manager, BTW—I’m certain he’ll fall out with Levy and co sooner than later.)
 
Yid

Yid

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Apart from the finances, Levy has created a real dilemma. He's hired one of the best managers in the world, yet the fans can't get too excited about it, because we all have no reason to think he'll get backed. Basically the press are assuming there will be money to spend because Conte wouldn’t have come otherwise, which is quite a big assumption.

I was listening to a podcast this morning, and one of the pundits was saying essentially, "surely Conte will be able to bring in several players, because the midfield is nowhere near good enough to play like he'd like.” I was thinking, what fucking club is this guy talking about? Ive seen nothing to convince me that this time will be any different (for club or manager, BTW—I’m certain he’ll fall out with Levy and co sooner than later.)
Add to this the nature, or more specifically the term of his contract... this was the first sign that Levy doesn't want to do this properly and we will see a repeat of what we have seen throughout his tenure. I don't think Conte can seriously believe this is more than a salvage job, maybe stop us getting relegated because our form was heading that way.

We're fortunate there is some serious shite in Newcastle and Norwich to pad out the majority of the relegation spots.

I digress...

All this report does is justify his behaviour. He will be sitting in front of stingy Uncle Joe saying "Look, look at how well I did. Look at how much value I have added to your wealth fund and how I am worth the largest salary for any Chairman in the Premier League"

It matters not a single fuck to him or Uncle Joe that the fans have had absolutely fuck all apart from one Milk Cup trophy to sing about.

He has sold our club and replaced it with a faceless corporate machine that's primary function is to produce more and more money for its owners. Football is not important to anyone in the upper echelons of this club, all that matters is ROI.

Fuck them all dead. Bunch of cunts have collectively destroyed what was once a great club. A club I simply cant see anymore, a club I don't recognise.
 
NiceOneCyril

NiceOneCyril

Player in Training.

Not too bad with all things considered. We came out of this mess much better than most and I suppose we have to acknowledge ENIC and Levy did look after us. It’s a really good statement, well written and puts a lot of things into perspective. Perhaps they are not as bad as we think…..
Havocc, if nothing else you deserve a medal for bravery for this post :)
 
ClemFandango

ClemFandango

Lord High Chief of the Privvy
Interesting. This is an article from the Financial Times about it(if it’s readable)


Certainly a lot of detail which could suggest some substance.

Potentially 30% of the money coming from the Saudis though so that might not sit too well with some fans.

(I think that FT article was my one “free” read of the day as I can’t read it again)
 
Yid

Yid

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They own so much of the money, when you are talking billion quid deals I'd imagine it's dificult to not find their fingers in the pot...

But yeah, I'd way rather they wernt enywhere near us...
 
ClemFandango

ClemFandango

Lord High Chief of the Privvy
I suppose we’re caught between the devil and the deep blue sea really. Can we reconcile being only partly owned by Saudi money if it means finally getting rid of ENIC?
 
Havocc

Havocc

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Personally, my moral compass is not something I can apply in this instance.

I spend money on so many other things where either the ownership or production of said product is highly contentious.

On the plus side, they do not show The Flintstone in Qatar

But Abu Dhabi do
 
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