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Premier League 16/17

skiathospurs

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Nice balanced write up here
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/aug/11/premier-league-previews-tottenham-hotspur

Guardian writers’ predicted position 3rd (NB: this is not necessarily David Hytner’s prediction but the average of our writers’ tips)

Last season’s position 3rd

Odds to win the league (via Oddschecker) 8-1

Mauricio Pochettino wanted to sign Victor Wanyama from his former club Southampton in the summer of last year. It did not happen. Southampton made it plain that they would not countenance it. Above all, the timing was wrong.

Pochettino shrugged and he told Daniel Levy, his chairman at Tottenham Hotspur, not to worry. He had a backup plan, which was to turn the defender Eric Dier into a high-calibre defensive midfielder. There was external scepticism at the time but it proved to be a masterstroke. Dier was one of the stand-out players in what was a stellar season for the club.

Job done? Position locked down? Apparently not. Pochettino moved again for Wanyama this summer and, this time, the timing was right. The commanding Kenyan became his first signing of the close season and, at £11m, it felt like value, too.
Pochettino was in a position of strength but he wanted to build; he wanted more. The manager knew that he would be without Mousa Dembélé, his other starting central midfielder, for the first four games of the season because of the punishment for his eye gouge on Chelsea’s Diego Costa last May. But, also, he wanted greater competition, options and flexibility. Dier and Dembélé will not be able to play all of the time, particularly as there is a campaign in the more gruelling Champions League to factor in.

The move for Wanyama cut to the heart of Pochettino’s approach; how he is seeking to grow the club and why there are credible reasons for optimism at Tottenham regarding the short and longer term.

Pochettino is obsessed by profiling, and it takes in data that relates to conditioning, nutrition and sports science. In terms of recruitment, his signings must tick specific boxes, physically and mentally. Wanyama, whom Pochettino brought to Southampton from Celtic in July 2013 for £12.5m, ticks them all.

Pochettino’s players are imposing – almost all of his favoured starting XI from last season stood at six feet or higher – and they have tremendous stamina. Moreover, they must be tactically flexible and able to play in at least two positions. Wanyama offers an option in central defence. One of Pochettino’s reasons for selling Andros Townsend to Newcastle United last January was that the winger shone on only one flank.

Pochettino also insists upon good characters and there are no big-time Charlies in his squad these days. One small example from last week shone a light on the collective attitude. It was the day for the broadcasters to film their walk-up shots and take other assorted photographs, and players can consider it a pain and behave as such. At Tottenham, it went smoothly and professionally.

The clincher on the Wanyama deal was the fee, which was relatively low because he had only one year to run on his contract. With the stadium rebuild to finance, these things matter at Tottenham; largesse over the next two years is a nonstarter. They intend to enter the 61,000-capacity arena in 2018-19.

The note of worry at Tottenham concerns the manner in which their rivals have attacked the transfer market. It is difficult to quantify how greatly the other top clubs will be improved by their signings but it is clear that when two of them (and counting?) have lavished nine-figure sums on fees alone, it represents a shake-up. Tottenham cannot compete on these terms at present and they have felt the tremors, which have emanated most strongly from Manchester. This Premier League is going to be so tough.

But the glass feels half-full, primarily because of Pochettino and the precision and vigour of his methods. In so many ways, he is the ideal manager for Tottenham, as they plot the transition into the new stadium. The Argentinian is determined to make stars, rather than buy them, and he leads from the front with his work ethic and attention to detail.

He is in at 7am every day, he leaves at 7pm and, in a sport of fine margins, he is constantly seeking the edge. Everybody at the club will tell you that his analytics are extraordinary. After training, the wonders of modern technology allow for the footage to be sent to the screen in his office and, together with his coaches, he re-watches every minute of it. Nothing escapes scrutiny. What he and the staff discuss informs the next session.

The clarity and decisiveness has been reflected in the transfer market, where the club are no longer linked with scores of players. Frankly, it is most un-Tottenham-like. They also moved early for their biggest targets – Wanyama and the Holland striker Vincent Janssen, who joined on 12 July for £17m from AZ Alkmaar. The 22-year-old will provide much-needed cover for Harry Kane.

Tottenham probably need another game-changing option from the bench; a player with the pace to get in behind and make things happen – hence the interest in Marseille’s £11m-rated winger Georges-Kévin Nkoudou. But while the club remain alive to other possibilities, there will be no scramble to complete the squad as the deadline nears.
The resignation on Tuesday of the head of recruitment, Paul Mitchell, who boiled over with frustration and felt that he could not continue, offered a reminder of the constraints in his area at the club – and the pressures to deliver for Levy. Mitchell will serve a period of notice, which will go beyond the end of the summer transfer window.

Pochettino has offloaded Federico Fazio to Roma on loan and sold Alex Pritchard to Norwich City for £8m. Nabil Bentaleb will also leave, having not been involved with the squad during pre-season. This is typical of Pochettino. If a player is not a part of his plans, he wants them a long way from the group. The feeling has been that Pochettino does not trust the midfielder in possession. Bentaleb has been guilty of losing the ball in risky areas, which is not something that Dier or Dembélé do.

There is little else to be trimmed, apart from DeAndre Yedlin and possibly Clinton Njie, and Pochettino will rely on the club’s academy-developed talent to fill in any gaps. The fourth-choice centre-half will be Cameron Carter-Vickers, who has been likened to Ledley King in terms of physique and temperament, and Shayon Harrison could be an option behind Kane and Janssen up front.

Kyle Walker-Peters has the advantage of being able to play at left-back as well as right-back and there are high hopes for Josh Onomah, an England team-mate from July’s European Under-19 Championship. The midfielder is maturing physically and everybody at the club seems to love him. Ditto another midfielder, Harry Winks, and then there is the 17-year-old Marcus Edwards, around whom there is such a buzz. The little No10, who has a sweet left foot and low centre of gravity, is expected to make his first-team debut this season.

Pochettino has faith in the club’s academy players – and in himself to bring them on – and he has faith in what is a young first XI, in which the vast majority are only going to get better. There is the sense of momentum, a connection between fans and the team and it has added up to a rare feelgood factor, particularly when the Champions League and the stadium are considered.

Tottenham will play their European ties at Wembley this season and their matches in all competitions there next time out, as the work on their new home is finished, and the prospect of a partisan 90,000 in attendance at the national stadium is thrilling for them. The club have 51,000 supporters on a paid-for waiting list for season tickets.

The large surface at Wembley should also help. Pochettino has mentioned how White Hart Lane is one of the tightest pitches in the league and perhaps it might work against them when visiting teams sit deep and mass men behind the ball.
The stadium is rising fast. The north-east corner of the existing ground has been demolished and, with the bottom and first floors completed on the new one, the work on level two can begin. By the end of the year, it will stand five storeys tall – higher than White Hart Lane. That will be when people truly realise it is coming.

There was much to like about Tottenham last season and, even in the explosive 2-2 draw at Chelsea, when they had nine men booked and their title hopes perished, Pochettino was delighted to see the collective fight. No longer, he said, could Tottenham be viewed as soft touches. On the other hand, the loss of composure after Eden Hazard’s 83rd-minute equaliser, when there was still time for the winning goal, was comprehensive.

Pochettino is hopeful that his players have learned from that lesson and others, and he has targeted a fast start, as rival teams bed in their signings. Tottenham are settled and the club feel secure – they have finished in the top six in each of the past seven seasons and three times in the top four. They have a magnificent training ground and, in two years’ time, they will have the largest club stadium in London. There is plenty to look forward to. Pochettino has stoked the anticipation.
 
skiathospurs

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http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37040156
BBC pundits predictions
God bless Chrissy waddle!!

Chris Waddle
Tottenham Arsenal Man City Man Utd

A lot of people associate me with Spurs because I played there and will be thinking I am just favouring my old club but I think they will be stronger for what happened last season. They came very close and just blew up at the end but they have a lot of young players who will have learned a lot from that and will also be hungry to make amends, not just for missing out on the title but also finishing below Arsenal.

I know City have got Guardiola and United have got Mourinho but they are both at new clubs - at Spurs, Mauricio Pochettino has got a settled squad who have played under him for two seasons already.
 
Don Diaz

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Note Fixture changes...not sure if these have been posted previously?

The following matches have been chosen for live television coverage:

Manchester City (H) – now Sunday, October 2, KO 2.15pm – Sky Sports

Bournemouth (A) – Saturday, October 22, KO now 12.30pm – Sky Sports

Arsenal (A) – now Sunday, November 6, KO 12.00pm – BT Sport

West Ham United (H) – Saturday, November 19, KO now 5.30pm – BT Sport

Chelsea (A) – Saturday, November 26, KO now 5.30pm – BT Sport
 
skiathospurs

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"£47m for Stones"
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Don Diaz

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I read this morning in the BBC football gossip page that Cristian Eriksen is holding out for a new contract at £150,000 a week....hope that is just rumour, otherwise he runs the risk of alienating himself from The club and the other players.
 
skiathospurs

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I read this morning in the BBC football gossip page that Cristian Eriksen is holding out for a new contract at £150,000 a week....hope that is just rumour, otherwise he runs the risk of alienating himself from The club and the other players.
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...s-demanded-significant-pay-rise-a3319281.html
Christian Eriksen's agent insists his player remains "happy" at Tottenham as contract talks between the club and the Danish playmaker continue.

Eriksen has two years to run on his current deal and has not yet reached a fresh agreement.

Reports on Saturday suggested Eriksen had requested a substantial pay rise in order to sign a new deal at White Hart Lane.

Standard Sport revealed last month that the 24-year-old had turned down Tottenham's most recent offer.

His representative, Martin Schoots, was at pains to stress that financial gain is not Eriksen's principal motivation as he plans his career.

Schoots told Standard Sport: "The only thing that I can say is that if money were the most important thing, Christian would not have gone to Ajax at the first place.

"At the time, he was 16 we were in contact with clubs like Barcelona, Chelsea and AC Milan.

"And if money were the most important thing, he wouldn't have joined Tottenham three years ago. He had interest from some of the richest clubs in the world.
But Tottenham were the only club he wanted to join, and he is happy."

He added: "In the eight-and-a-half years that I have worked with Chris, we never made any comments on contract negotiations and we will not make any exception on this, not even confronted by some funny internet rumours."

When Eriksen joined Spurs for about £11million in August 2013, signing a five-year contract, he is also believed to have drawn strong attention from Manchester City and Paris St Germain.

Eriksen is expected to make his first appearance of the season as Spurs face Everton at Goodison Park this afternoon
 
J.spurs

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Defoe equalizes at Citeh, who may yet win, but look totally ordinary. If Jesus Navas was named David Jones or Paddy Coleman or something he wouldn't be within 10 miles of a top-ten PL club.
 
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http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...s-demanded-significant-pay-rise-a3319281.html
Christian Eriksen's agent insists his player remains "happy" at Tottenham as contract talks between the club and the Danish playmaker continue.

Eriksen has two years to run on his current deal and has not yet reached a fresh agreement.

Reports on Saturday suggested Eriksen had requested a substantial pay rise in order to sign a new deal at White Hart Lane.

Standard Sport revealed last month that the 24-year-old had turned down Tottenham's most recent offer.

His representative, Martin Schoots, was at pains to stress that financial gain is not Eriksen's principal motivation as he plans his career.

Schoots told Standard Sport: "The only thing that I can say is that if money were the most important thing, Christian would not have gone to Ajax at the first place.

"At the time, he was 16 we were in contact with clubs like Barcelona, Chelsea and AC Milan.

"And if money were the most important thing, he wouldn't have joined Tottenham three years ago. He had interest from some of the richest clubs in the world.
But Tottenham were the only club he wanted to join, and he is happy."

He added: "In the eight-and-a-half years that I have worked with Chris, we never made any comments on contract negotiations and we will not make any exception on this, not even confronted by some funny internet rumours."

When Eriksen joined Spurs for about £11million in August 2013, signing a five-year contract, he is also believed to have drawn strong attention from Manchester City and Paris St Germain.

Eriksen is expected to make his first appearance of the season as Spurs face Everton at Goodison Park this afternoon
Christian Eriksen ‏@ChrisEriksen8 1h1 hour ago
Not the result we wanted! But still one point and great support from the fans
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And dont believe everyting u read on the internet
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skiathospurs

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Well from watching MOTD,my weekly round up is:Citeh looked very ordinary against sunderland (and cannot sell out their ground!),Hull look like they have a very decent player in Clucas,swansea looked good,suprisingly,palace couldnt have scored with a grand in their pocket in amsterdam and southampton looked ok again despite the changes (again).Refs booked for dissent but the corner manhandling went unpunished again,a few challenges worthy of yellows were let go,early season or early in the game seems you get leeway.
Lets see how the other 3/4 of the sky top 4 get on this weekend before judgement is cast!!How much will chelsea spend if they get tonked!!i am betting more than the £140m being quoted for lukaku and koulibaliy they are linked with.

Glad to have the greatest team in the greatest league back!!
 
Don Diaz

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Early days but Liverpool winning at the scum and 5 gold medals made Sunday a happy day. Good words from Eriksen too. Looks like we need to get a few matches under our belt and some 'Poch training' in....!!
 
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Being honest and fair, the dippers looked like a different side, they are serious rivals this year. Mane's goal was a belter and one of Coutinho's as well. Letting the scum get those goals back was careless but at least they lost at home - did you hear the fickle fuckers booing? They would be at home in the OMT in the other place. City did not look scary, nor did United or the scum, let's hope the chavs continue their slump tonight.

All in all a fair start, an away defeat for the scum and a home draw for us against a side I think will be hard to beat this season. We have an infinite number of points more than the scum, we are joint 7th they are 15th so mind the fucking gap I say, and I don't give a fuck if anyone gets the hump with that, I shall celebrate the small victories when we get them, not mither on like a little girl about what might happen in the future.
 
skiathospurs

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Being honest and fair, the dippers looked like a different side, they are serious rivals this year. Mane's goal was a belter and one of Coutinho's as well. Letting the scum get those goals back was careless but at least they lost at home - did you hear the fickle fuckers booing? They would be at home in the OMT in the other place. City did not look scary, nor did United or the scum, let's hope the chavs continue their slump tonight.

All in all a fair start, an away defeat for the scum and a home draw for us against a side I think will be hard to beat this season. We have an infinite number of points more than the scum, we are joint 7th they are 15th so mind the fucking gap I say, and I don't give a fuck if anyone gets the hump with that, I shall celebrate the small victories when we get them, not mither on like a little girl about what might happen in the future.
Indeed,mind the gap.There i said it,I have never said it before but this year I believe it will be a yawning katie price`s fanny sized chasm between us and them.And with good reason,they just are not as good as us,and their manager couldnt organise a defence for donald trump in a mexican courtroom.They have one decent player sanchez,the rest are average or below par.Cech isnt in the top 5 keepers in the league anymore and nor will arsenal be,mertesacker is as quick as a trabant with a flat tyre,gabriel?do me a favour,bellerin looks like a dwarf peter crouch without dick emerys teeth,monreal,gibbs,chambers bang ordinary,their "best midfielder "old frogeyes" isnt a patch on Dele,and giroud your only true striker!!
Its going to be hell for all those plastic dial square fans this season I really believe it,wengers last year,will he survive til may??and IF they boot him,it will be civil war there.
Fuck off back to woolwich,north london is ours!!
 
skiathospurs

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Everton have signed DR Congo international midfielder Yannick Bolasie from Crystal Palace on a five-year deal for £25m.

excellent,thats him not playing saturday,I put a fiver on Andros being the 1st to put the ball out of paxton rd and down worcs avenue.
 
J.spurs

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I see that this twat Antonio Conte is going to be very easy to hate. Always good to see in new managers.
 
deejbah

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I see that this twat Antonio Conte is going to be very easy to hate. Always good to see in new managers.

I want to see Mourinho turn up at Stamford Bridge and walk into the technical area with a bald wig that he then puts another wig on top of.
 
skiathospurs

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So they bought a replacement for adebayor then :p:p:p

Crystal Palace have signed Belgium striker Christian Benteke from Liverpool for a club record £27m.
The fee for the 25-year-old forward, who has agreed a four-year contract, could rise by a further £5m.

Oh dear,this is a risky signing IMO,big money for someone in a poor state.
 
skiathospurs

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Burnley lol

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Dorset

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It just proves what a dumb fucker I am when I said Liverpool looked like the dog's doodles last week.
 
skiathospurs

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That catpoo guy at watford looks alright,worth a cheeky bid??all the rage selling someone who`s a duffer and buying them back +250%
 
J.spurs

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This from Moyes after the Sunderland game on Sunday:
Asked about a growing consensus that Sunderland will inevitably be involved in yet another relegation fight this season, their brutally realistic, extremely downbeat manager did not disagree. “They’re probably right,” he said. “That’s what they’ve had for the last four years, so why should it change? I don’t think we can hide the facts – yes, that will probably be the case.

“People will be flat because they’re hoping something is going to dramatically change here – but it can’t, can it? Getting the right players at the right price in the transfer market is difficult.”
He's probably right, but what a thing to say one year after Leicester won the league, and just two games into the season too. Self-fulfilling prophecy. Thank fuck we didn't get him as our manager a few years back.
 
Don Diaz

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It just proves what a dumb fucker I am when I said Liverpool looked like the dog's doodles last week.
Don't be so hard on yourself........it was only Arsenal.
 
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Manchester City have announced the signing of Claudio Bravo from Barcelona on a four-year deal.

Barcelona said in a statement: "The club will receive 18 million euros plus a further two million in variables as a result of the transfer deal."

Really has FFP just been stopped?i must have missed the memo.....
 
Don Diaz

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This is why our players might be feeling a bit weary....no sooner has the Premier league started and they are all off around the world playing Internationals...on the plus side it might help gain some match sharpness. What we don't want is any injuries, it must be a nightmare for Poch and other managers.

From the official site, who is playing where and when...
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/spurs-international-fixtures-300816/
 
skiathospurs

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Chelsea don't look as pleased with that 2-2 as they did vs us?:p:p
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Captain,Legend,cripple...be still my beating hard on

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Liam

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A pretty set of results this weekend, would have been better if the goons hadn't won a penalty at the very end against Southampton. 6 points from Sunderland and Boro in our next two league games will be pukka!
 
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A pretty set of results this weekend, would have been better if the goons hadn't won a penalty at the very end against Southampton. 6 points from Sunderland and Boro in our next two league games will be pukka!
Dont count those chickens Bro. ...

I agree though them in the sky rocket and the outlook will be much improved.

I'd say though what I wanna see is a serious return of intensity on and off the ball. That comes back and the results take care of them self.

Great couple of games for the Moooooooose to get back up to match fitness too.
 
Don Diaz

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Pleased for Everton so far....Koeman is clearly a good manager, Saints should have tried much harder to keep him. I'm glad that we've got that away game out of the way as well. Other teams are going to find it a tough place to go if they stay on form.
 
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