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J.spurs

J.spurs

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I wrote a long rant about owners,mostly how american sports is more of making money than a clubs basis as in europe,but I will just like your post instead.
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Yeah, my uneducated guess is that this wouldn't be some kind of vanity project like the chavs are for abromovich, it would be viewed as a profit generating enterprise. So kind of like it is now I suppose. As much as I've always been in the "levy is a cheap prick" camp, he's also a fan of the club, and it's reached heights not seen for decades under ENIC. So I'm a little leery when I see headlines like this no matter what country the gazillionaire in question happens to be from, but especially my own
 
Don Diaz

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I think Levy with ENIC backing has moved this club on more than any other chairman I can remember. Just look at what has been achieved relatively speaking under his stewardship. Ok I appreciate that he hasnt got everything right, and I can understand why some don't like him, but he deserves a bit of respect and recognition for where we are now vs as recently as 10 years ago.

Better the devil you know I think, and there's very little an individual club can do against the overwhelming financial tide. I'd rather be up there competing in the right way, which I think we are, than burying our head in the sand and missing out potentially for generations.

There's no perfect world in the Premier League but our model and future is pretty damn good I reckon.

Mark Zuckerberg...ha ha that's just a sound bite surely. It's a No from me.
 
Style And Glory

Style And Glory

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I think Levy with ENIC backing has moved this club on more than any other chairman I can remember. Just look at what has been achieved relatively speaking under his stewardship. Ok I appreciate that he hasnt got everything right, and I can understand why some don't like him, but he deserves a bit of respect and recognition for where we are now vs as recently as 10 years ago.

Better the devil you know I think, and there's very little an individual club can do against the overwhelming financial tide. I'd rather be up there competing in the right way, which I think we are, than burying our head in the sand and missing out potentially for generations.

There's no perfect world in the Premier League but our model and future is pretty damn good I reckon.

Mark Zuckerberg...ha ha that's just a sound bite surely. It's a No from me.

For me, the first decade was a little iffy. Probably just finding his way around the industry with transfers & manager's heads rolling in dodgy ways.. But the last few years, both on & off the field have been just phenomenal. And the future is even more exciting. Well done Levy.
 
Style And Glory

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In terms of stability for the club as a whole, I don't think we have had a manager last more than 4 years in quite some time. You may have to go back as far as Burkinshaw. So it hasn't been just Levy with an itchy trigger finger.
 
skiathospurs

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Dorset

Dorset

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I will remain calm, despite seeing that picture of the arch-cunt in that fucking awful place that controls the fucking world with that that evil grin on his evil face.

I don't think the stadium is stopping spending. Despite us all being experts, none of us seem to be able to identify the players Levy should be buying. Any big star' player he bought could unbalance the team I think is the best I have seen since the 70's. Some folks have been saying we 'need' another striker, but if Sonny is on form, Dele getting better and better and Vincent will surely start banging them in - do we really 'need' another striker? We might need to shore up our defence a little with wossisname moving to City, I can't remember his name. But what big name defenders are there available at the moment? I know fuck all about football but we seem to be well sorted in midfield and having 2 good backup goalkeepers is nice. There are some very good players coming through the academy, Harry Winks will be a triffic player, despite the numpties saying he wasn't brilliant on the Mickey Mouse tour of Mickey Mouse land.

I won't be perturbed if the arch-cunt spends nothing in this transfer window, he obviously will be chuffed as a pig in poo if he makes yet another profit and that will annoy me, but not because we haven't signed anybody but just because I hate the bloke - and all the other future Tottenham Hotspur Football Corporation owners, until the system changes then there is no point calling for regime change because the new boss will be the same as the old boss.
 
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skiathospurs

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http://eplindex.com/80614/spurs-story-save-english-football.html
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Mauricio Pochettino had a few things to say a couple of weeks back about other people’s opinions about his club. While his comments in this case were mostly directed towards Antonio Conte, who had suggested that it would not be a ‘tragedy’ if Tottenham failed to win the Premier League next season, one got the sense that he was addressing the vast majority out there who think that the lack of incoming activity at Spurs means that they’ve already fallen behind all the big teams.

One would think that we are talking about a team that has spent a lot of money in previous seasons. But the numbers share a story. Since the 2012-13 season, Tottenham have a net spend of £1.8 million per season. That is a staggering number when you consider that Manchester City have spent £90.5m per season with Manchester United not too far behind at £74.5m. Even Arsenal, the flag bearer for austerity in years gone past spent £42.1 a season. Liverpool spent £28.7m and Chelsea, £16.2m.

It is a testament to how well the club is run that they have improved their placing at the top end of the league for four seasons running now, while challenging for the title in the last two.

Some of the frugality could be attributed to the fact that their new stadium will cost £800m. But they sure are poster boys for those out there who believe that spending in football has reached ridiculous levels, with Neymar’s recent £198m move to PSG, the latest in a series of transfers that have boggled the mind.

Tottenham are about to start a new season without having bought a single player, yet. That is bound to change given that Daniel Levy does like to leave it late in the window before getting players in, but I expect the net spend to be what it has been for some time now, next to zero.

If they do well this season, a lot of clubs will look very silly indeed. I wondered what Jose Mourinho was smoking when he declared a few weeks back that Spurs have had a great window because they have managed to retain their best players. If it was an attempt at psychological warfare, I really do not know what he was trying to do there. But his and Conte’s comments do hint at a possible discomfort out there that Spurs could show up the top English clubs.


So, when Pochettino requested that others leave his team alone and focussed on themselves, he might have allowed himself a smile because he surely has his opponents worried.

Imagine how it would reflect on all the big spenders if Tottenham’s progression in the league over the last four years culminated in a league triumph this year? They are a long shot for the title, and the task will only be harder given that they are playing their home games at Wembley this season, where they only won one in five last year, but it would be a glorious achievement. Unlike Leicester’s title win, which was definitely a flash in the pan, it would lay down a case for how English football clubs could be run in a sustainable manner and still be successful.

Top English clubs, along with PSG, Barcelona and Real Madrid, have been in a bubble for the last few years and seem convinced that the good times and insane money will continue to roll in. There have been enough examples out there in the world economy over the past decade that suggest this will not be the case.

Maybe it needs a club like Tottenham to lead the way with it’s £100,000 a week salary cap and an ethos that revolves around the team rather than the stars. A decade or so back, Arsene Wenger created Arsenal teams in this image, teams which neutrals could get behind and be most others’ second favourite team.

Roman Abramovich changed English football then by being the first person to pump millions into a football club. He seemed to realise earlier than everyone else where football was headed. The fact that he has cut down on the spending in recent years suggests that he probably sees the boom years coming to an end. The bubble will burst soon, it is just a question of when.

Mauricio Pochettino could be the manager to show the way. This is what he had to say today on the eve of the Premier League curtain raiser:

“We are so competitive and ambitious. It’s a big challenge for us to make Tottenham a winning team and build a strong mentality to challenge the likes of United and City, who are spending a lot to create a winning team.

“Our philosophy and the way we work is so exciting. We try to win in different ways to other clubs. You cannot have doubts when others have doubts or are nervous. We are calm and relaxed.

“We will assess at the end of the season if we were right or not.”

As a Liverpool fan, I wish that the wait for a title ends this season, but if it doesn’t, I would love for Pochettino to be proven right. After a pre season filled with stories about incredulous valuations, striking players, greedy agents, whimsical fans and callous owners, that would be a story I could get behind. Football needs that story.
 
Dorset

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#OnThisDay in 1882, Tottenham Hotspur Football Club was established!
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Send across your Birthday wishes to the club!
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Bloody hell another date to remember.
Why didn't Levy send us all a piece of Birthday cake? yet more proof that I am, as always, correct when I say he is a cunt. He sent us pathetic scarves and some grass, not even a fucking Rizla, and NO cake. With all that money he has trousered he could afford to give us cake. The only way back for Levy is for everybody to receive a cake, not a slice, but a whole cake, and a nice one, NOT a fucking Swiss Roll I hate them fuckers, on the first day back at White Hart Lane, which will always be called the Lane even when he sells the naming rights. Ashley tried it and failed, and he never gives the Toon fans cake and they hate him more than I hate Levy. A lesson to be learned I think.

Happy Birthday to us!
 
skiathospurs

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Next 8
(CL) Madrid (A)
(PL) Liverpool (H)
(CC) WHam (H)
(PL) United (A)
(CL) Madrid (H)
(PL) Palace (H)
(PL) Arsenal (A)
(CL) Dortmund (A)
 
Liam

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Next 8
(CL) Madrid (A)
(PL) Liverpool (H)
(CC) WHam (H)
(PL) United (A)
(CL) Madrid (H)
(PL) Palace (H)
(PL) Arsenal (A)
(CL) Dortmund (A)
Fuck that's a tough run! Better be ready for it lads! Will set us up for Xmas if we can plenty if wins over those games.
 
Don Diaz

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The big 6 greedy boys - including Spurs have called off their pursuit for a bigger slice of the huge new TV revenues coming in from China and USA. Good. (for the moment anyway) if we didn't have decent opposition in Watford, Burnley and Huddersfield there would be no game to watch. And before anyone amongst the big 6 club management gets uppity, they might want to consider some of the clubs above results this year...most recently Huddersfield....eh Martin Edwards??

From the BBC Sport website

Proposals to end the equal distribution of overseas television money have been abandoned after Premier League clubs failed to reach an agreement.

The six richest clubs - Manchester City, Manchester United, Tottenham, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea - wanted their appeal reflected in their income.

A plan suggested 35% of revenue from the sale of global TV rights should be divided based on league position.

But a meeting set for Wednesday was called off as no decision was close.

The Premier League said on Tuesday: "It has become clear that there is currently no consensus for change, meaning tomorrow's club meeting is not necessary."

At the first meeting between the 20 Premier League teams on 4 October, it had become clear that the plan - presented by the league's executive chairman Richard Scudamore - was significantly short of gaining the support of the 14 clubs needed for it to be passed.

The £3bn overseas television deal for 2016-19 generates £39m annually for each club - and for the previous 25 years, there has been an equal sharing of international broadcasting income between the clubs.

But contracts for international markets such as China and the United States for the period between 2019 and 2022 have risen significantly in value, and the big six clubs had planned on trying to secure a greater share.
 
Flump

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The supposed big 6 already get their appeal recognised by the greater number of games shown live ans thus a larger share of the cash.
 
skiathospurs

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http://www.football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/b5wp/2017/202/en/
Issue number 202 of the CIES Football Observatory Weekly Post ranks big-5 league teams according to the estimated transfer value of their players. The aggregated value of current squad members is above one billion euro for four clubs: Manchester City, Tottenham Hotspur, Barcelona and Chelsea.

Transfer values are estimated on the basis of the algorithm exclusively developed by the CIES Football Observatory research team.
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Don Diaz

Don Diaz

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http://www.football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/b5wp/2017/202/en/
Issue number 202 of the CIES Football Observatory Weekly Post ranks big-5 league teams according to the estimated transfer value of their players. The aggregated value of current squad members is above one billion euro for four clubs: Manchester City, Tottenham Hotspur, Barcelona and Chelsea.

Transfer values are estimated on the basis of the algorithm exclusively developed by the CIES Football Observatory research team.
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The transformation at our club is literally quite staggering over the last 6 years. We've gone from 'discovering Bale' and qualifying for the CL for the first time under Harry Redknapp, whilst scrabbling around with Everton in about 6th place in the league, to being genuine title contenders, surpassing Liverpool, Arsenal, United and City regularly in league results and in the process have built one of the most valuable squads in Europe, about to move into a new, state of the art, 61,000 seat stadium and not an Arab or Russian billionnaire in sight. If it was actually happening, you'd say that it was unbelieveable, Well it is happening and we and everyone associated with Spurs deserve it. I fucking love it.
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

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Just for Fun...

Gazza mark 2, became our 15th Goalkeeper in the Premier League...can you name the other 14? answers on the back of a postcard or alternatively just google it, but that's boring.
 
Liam

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Just for Fun...

Gazza mark 2, became our 15th Goalkeeper in the Premier League...can you name the other 14? answers on the back of a postcard or alternatively just google it, but that's boring.
I can only remember a few, Ian Walker, Paul robinson, Espen Baardsen, Brad friedel, Hurelio Gomez, Neil Sullivan, Lloris, Vorm, Gazza mk2, Redek Cerny, Kasey keller, Erik the viking, Hans segers....

Can't quite get it mate, I know as soon as someone says who iv'e missed I'm gonna call myself a cunt for not remembering him....
 
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