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Transfer watch (Summer 2017)

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Dustin

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First off, sorry for my long hiatus..

Now, what's everyones thoughts on the whole Walker situation? Has he really spat his dummy out about Trippier being picked over him near the end of the season or is that just classic media speculation? Trippier was in fantastic form imo and deserved to keep his place.

I highly rate Walker and he has been on another level to other RBs around the last couple of seasons but I'd take £45m+ for him. That is if the dressing room isn't disrupted by his exit, he actively wants to leave and we have an adequate replacement for him that is significantly cheaper. No point keeping a player if they don't want to stay who imo isn't even part of the spine or unreplaceable (i.e. Kane, Alli, Alderweireld, Lloris).

We already have Trippier who I really do think is a quality player and although not quite at the level of Walker, he could potentially be with a solid run in the team. Also, Kane/Alli would relish his balls in the box! The issue would be getting ripped off for another RB as everyone will know we will need one. A RB to challenge Trippier who is the same level/age/price of Trippier when we bought him would do just fine I think.

Also, read about the speculated interest in Sessegnon. I really rate this kid and have a couple of Fulham mates who reckon he will be the real deal but I don't really get where he fits in? We have Davies and Rose with plenty of years of football ahead of them who both, by all accounts, seem to be happy/content. I expect Sessegnon to be going elsewhere personally - maybe Liverpool where there's an easier route to first team football..

Walker:
Too many are overlooking how much the role of fullback has changed in our team over the past decade and how that has become even more so since our switch to 3 in the back. The drop in play between a first string and second string fullback now can have an immediate noticeable impact on our team's ability to create chances, maintain balance and control the game - they are more offensive players than defensive in our set up. The amount of sprints they are asked to do and ground they are asked to cover is more than the full backs - or traditional wingers - of old. Further having diversity in fullback type has become a very viable tactical tool for our team. With this in mind, I think we should start thinking of depth in the full back position in the same way you would think of an attacking midfielder. Playing our current 3-4-2-1 formation, we will need two top full backs to win the league. 45 million for Walker is silly money, but there is no way that he is not a top quality full back in that position. Unless he has a known permanent injury or major fall-out, letting him go next season would be an open acknowledgement that we are not serious about being title contenders, particularly if we sold to City.

I see these top two positions more likely to cost us points next season, and far more important than any others to add cover to:

1. CB - this needs to be an athletic CB that is comfortable on the ball with his left foot. This is not only an issue because we are playing 3 of them without adequate cover, but it is also cover for Wanyama as it frees up Dier. Currently we have a lot of versatility in cover between the back 3 and DM, but very little depth. Another CB is top priority.

2. CM cover for Dembele. Basically a decision on Harry Winks needs to be made. Is he our long term Dembele replacement? If not, another midfielder to cover and one day replace Dembele is needed. When Dembele is not available we automatically lose a part of our game. Winks has did well last season, but is he the one? Either way, Wanyama + Dier is not a versatile option and also takes us out of our preferred back 3.

...3. What about Striker? ...First I'll say now that I still believe that Jansen can play a long-term role in our set-up. He lacks quickness, but has everything else we need in a good role-player frontman. He can play target man, he can put in a hard shift, he can certainly get back to scoring some goals, but most of all, he's the perfect type of player for Son and Dele to play off of. He's not going to score 20+ goals a season, he just doesn't have the quickness I'm afraid, but with Son and Dele in the line-up, we don't need our that type of goal-scorer up front to still win games handily. Point is, we're not as thin up front as we would be in a more traditional set up. Should we try to pick up one more? Hell yes, but it will take quite a buy to find another striker that gets game-time to how Dele and Son fit into the equation and the versatility of Jansen.

...4. Finally, what about in our attacking mids? We could always be better? I worry a bit about if a long-term absence of Eriksen would be a major drain of points, could Winks step up? Would Son + Dele in a 2 be enough to overpower teams? Will Lamela ever come back and make his mark? So much of if we need cover here depends on the MPs understanding of Winks and Lamela (and also if Sissoko ever is likely to get with the programme). So for me, if we were to have a high profile move in this area it would signal a lack of faith in those players, but if we don't, it would signal some confidence in their revival.

Good to see you folks are still hanging around...
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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Walker:
Too many are overlooking how much the role of fullback has changed in our team over the past decade and how that has become even more so since our switch to 3 in the back. The drop in play between a first string and second string fullback now can have an immediate noticeable impact on our team's ability to create chances, maintain balance and control the game - they are more offensive players than defensive in our set up. The amount of sprints they are asked to do and ground they are asked to cover is more than the full backs - or traditional wingers - of old. Further having diversity in fullback type has become a very viable tactical tool for our team. With this in mind, I think we should start thinking of depth in the full back position in the same way you would think of an attacking midfielder. Playing our current 3-4-2-1 formation, we will need two top full backs to win the league. 45 million for Walker is silly money, but there is no way that he is not a top quality full back in that position. Unless he has a known permanent injury or major fall-out, letting him go next season would be an open acknowledgement that we are not serious about being title contenders, particularly if we sold to City.

I see these top two positions more likely to cost us points next season, and far more important than any others to add cover to:

1. CB - this needs to be an athletic CB that is comfortable on the ball with his left foot. This is not only an issue because we are playing 3 of them without adequate cover, but it is also cover for Wanyama as it frees up Dier. Currently we have a lot of versatility in cover between the back 3 and DM, but very little depth. Another CB is top priority.

2. CM cover for Dembele. Basically a decision on Harry Winks needs to be made. Is he our long term Dembele replacement? If not, another midfielder to cover and one day replace Dembele is needed. When Dembele is not available we automatically lose a part of our game. Winks has did well last season, but is he the one? Either way, Wanyama + Dier is not a versatile option and also takes us out of our preferred back 3.

...3. What about Striker? ...First I'll say now that I still believe that Jansen can play a long-term role in our set-up. He lacks quickness, but has everything else we need in a good role-player frontman. He can play target man, he can put in a hard shift, he can certainly get back to scoring some goals, but most of all, he's the perfect type of player for Son and Dele to play off of. He's not going to score 20+ goals a season, he just doesn't have the quickness I'm afraid, but with Son and Dele in the line-up, we don't need our that type of goal-scorer up front to still win games handily. Point is, we're not as thin up front as we would be in a more traditional set up. Should we try to pick up one more? Hell yes, but it will take quite a buy to find another striker that gets game-time to how Dele and Son fit into the equation and the versatility of Jansen.

...4. Finally, what about in our attacking mids? We could always be better? I worry a bit about if a long-term absence of Eriksen would be a major drain of points, could Winks step up? Would Son + Dele in a 2 be enough to overpower teams? Will Lamela ever come back and make his mark? So much of if we need cover here depends on the MPs understanding of Winks and Lamela (and also if Sissoko ever is likely to get with the programme). So for me, if we were to have a high profile move in this area it would signal a lack of faith in those players, but if we don't, it would signal some confidence in their revival.

Good to see you folks are still hanging around...
I would take Barkley to resolve point 4. may also free Son or Dele to cover point 3. at a pinch?
I think poch will use winks/maybe even Onomah in the dembele cover?if he really believes in just one of the pair i dont expect a signing in this area.

The elephant in the room is a wide player,we signed Njie,Nkoudou,sissoko and yet rarely look to utilise a pacy winger in our system?will Poch persist?in a search for one?

Already going out and creating funds are Fazio,Bentaleb,probably Njie,and take your pick of sissoko,nkoudou,wimmer to follow.No doubt we have funds,I think Poch will be cautious and go with what we have plus one or two?
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
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Ronaldo is upset, he want to leave Spain because they have accuse him of being a tax cheat, I wonder if he's heard of extradition or Europol (sounds like an ointment you put on farmers) ? Maybe he thinks that if he comes back to the premier league by the time they get the paperwork done we will be out of Europe?
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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Chavhater01

Chavhater01

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So on the bbcsport website, as many of you I'm sure are aware, there's a section on transfer rumours, one of today's stories tells me and I quote...

"City boss, Pep Guardiola wants to sign Tottenham right back Kyle Walker"

Comical, utterly comical!
 
Finchbee

Finchbee

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Lemar is off to Liverpool! Or arsenal! Spurs favourites to sign ramires who is off to Everton, ronaldo is off to Utd! Messi to huddersfield and conte is going to leave
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

The Aussie Yid
Just for a laugh, I thought I'd try and build a team with players we had bought, not 'ones of our own' but players we had paid wedge with - and my mission, should I have chosen to accept it, was to spend less than one Mbappe, which I believe would cost at least £120m.

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I am not suggesting that this is lineup we would play, we could if we needed to, but those 11 blokes cost us £114m. So I have £6m change from one Mbappe, I'll stick Wimmer on the bench and use the other million for beer and kebabs!

The Mike Bassett/Harry Redknapp 4-4-2 set up.
 
Style And Glory

Style And Glory

On My High Trojan Horse
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I don't know much about this kid.
Now lots of press about a possible deal.



Diario Madridista report that 23-year-old (24 in August) Real Madrid centre-forward Mariano Diaz wants to join Tottenham Hotspur.

We have been following Mariano Díaz Mejía, simply known as Mariano, this season where he scored 5 goals plus a further 2 assists in 14 games, although his game time was only a total of 302 minutes in all competitions (equivalent to just 3.36 games).

He played 8 LaLiga games totalling 114 minutes, equivalent to 1.27 games, scoring 1 goal and having 1 assist. The goal came against Deportivo La Coruna who finished 16th and his assist came in the return fixture away. He came on as a sub for a few minutes against Barcelona.

His other 4 goals were in 5 Copa del Rey games, consisting of 183 minutes, a goal every 46 minutes. The right-footed Dominican Republic striker (he has 1 full international cap scoring 1 goal) is under contract until 2021.

Real Madrid look set to sell him this summer and will want their usual buyback clause which we won't entertain. Everton have just found out to their cost that a buyback clause isn't a good idea losing
Gerard Deulofeu back to Barcelona.

The report suggest we have made enquiries for the player and are very interested in securing his services ahead of the new season. We are not alone in our interest, Real Betis, Malaga and Atlético Madrid are tracking him too, but his preference is for Spurs. he needs game time and simply can't get it at the Spanish Champions.
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

Zero tolerance of Numpty's
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Is he any better than what we've already got anyway?......I suppose he'd give Sonny a run for his money and/or a fit Lamela, but tht's only a maybe. Which Spanish based players have done well in Premier League football historically? Torres for a while with Gerrard supplying him, but failed at Chelsea, Diego Costa, but not as well as Harry,Aguero? where did he come from...who else?
 
Liam

Liam

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Is he any better than what we've already got anyway?......I suppose he'd give Sonny a run for his money and/or a fit Lamela, but tht's only a maybe. Which Spanish based players have done well in Premier League football historically? Torres for a while with Gerrard supplying him, but failed at Chelsea, Diego Costa, but not as well as Harry,Aguero? where did he come from...who else?
I think he's an under rated player and would slot in with Eriksen and Alli nicely as the three behind Kane but it's not likely to happen. The coin would be too much I expect PSG, City, or United kind of money. If the goons lost Ozil and/or Sanchez I could see them slashing out too I suppose, and the chavs if they lost Hazard.
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
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Is he any better than what we've already got anyway?......I suppose he'd give Sonny a run for his money and/or a fit Lamela, but tht's only a maybe. Which Spanish based players have done well in Premier League football historically? Torres for a while with Gerrard supplying him, but failed at Chelsea, Diego Costa, but not as well as Harry,Aguero? where did he come from...who else?
When he signed for Real Madrid I have to admit I was jealous as fuck, I thought he was a wonder player, but what I have seen of him, which I admit isn't much because I only watch the Champions League and Europa league games - he seems OK, nothing more, just OK, not really worth the massive wedge it would cost to buy him and pay his wages. He looked great playing for Colombia, but is that really that hard? I'm not taking the piss out of them , I loved watching them play in the World Cup, but it's Colombia FFS!. We already have players that we know can be the very bollocks of the dog as attacking midfielders, why spend mega-quids on a bloke we don't need and who might be pony in the UK Premier League?
 
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corroded

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Is he any better than what we've already got anyway?......I suppose he'd give Sonny a run for his money and/or a fit Lamela, but tht's only a maybe. Which Spanish based players have done well in Premier League football historically? Torres for a while with Gerrard supplying him, but failed at Chelsea, Diego Costa, but not as well as Harry,Aguero? where did he come from...who else?

I hear that Van der Vaart chap was alright...

I think it's harder for a striker to come over here, but I do think James is quality.... and the quality players tend to do pretty well. Sanchez *spit*, Toure, Silva... all quality. Cazorla wasn't too bad *spit*. Whatever his name at Everton is... Delfleuo? Lets not forget Aspas. lololol.

Still, a quality player is a quality player, right?! :D
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

The Aussie Yid
We're thumbing our noses at James Rodriguez now, are we?

I love you lot but you are all mad. The guy is a superstar. His problem is not talent, his problem is trying to break into RM's team and play the politics with fuckbag Ronaldo (and the other egocentric pricks) as well.

He'd slice up the premier league and do it for a laugh. Plus, hearing commentators yell the name "Hamm...ess" every time the guy rattles the onion bag in a Spurs shirt is the stuff of wet dreams.
 
Liam

Liam

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I don't know anything about Alena or Marcel but wouldn't imagine they'd be our top signings if either came. I'm hoping we get one of those kids who just hit the ground running like Alli soon though.
 
Finchbee

Finchbee

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Meanwhile other clubs pushing for title next season are signing players with known quality
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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Meanwhile other clubs pushing for title next season are signing players with known quality
Playing catch up to an extent,city are a bit scatter gun,bought a kid keeper,some more attacking midfielders,lost 3 defenders out of contract not addressed,kind of the same at liverpool,add another player in the type they have Salah,dont see anything to improve them at the back or holding midfield,united still a mess,chasing all these big named strikers with 2 of the hottest kids in the squad kicking their heels in frustration if that happens.Pretty sure we all felt the same last year,we didnt sign big,others did,zlatan and pogba to united,didnt make a difference in the league,liverpool did improve but only marginally and with no european football,arse spent a bit on xaka and mustafi,the difference??pep brought in a few (more attacking MFs lol) the difference,nothing.Only us and chelsea who didnt spend improved in the league.
New signings as we know can be a poisoned chalice,dont always fit or work,can unsettle performing players or the team dynamic.I honestly at this stage wont be upset if we dont buy a starting XI player,but a couple to give depth and cover.End of the season I may have changed this view!!Cos hopefully winks&lamela to come back is almost like 2 signings anyhow.
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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Njie spotted back at marseille for pre-season,expect a deal announcement sometime.Also same with fazio and bentaleb who`s loans should become permanent after appearance clauses met last season.
 
Finchbee

Finchbee

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Playing catch up to an extent,city are a bit scatter gun,bought a kid keeper,some more attacking midfielders,lost 3 defenders out of contract not addressed,kind of the same at liverpool,add another player in the type they have Salah,dont see anything to improve them at the back or holding midfield,united still a mess,chasing all these big named strikers with 2 of the hottest kids in the squad kicking their heels in frustration if that happens.Pretty sure we all felt the same last year,we didnt sign big,others did,zlatan and pogba to united,didnt make a difference in the league,liverpool did improve but only marginally and with no european football,arse spent a bit on xaka and mustafi,the difference??pep brought in a few (more attacking MFs lol) the difference,nothing.Only us and chelsea who didnt spend improved in the league.
New signings as we know can be a poisoned chalice,dont always fit or work,can unsettle performing players or the team dynamic.I honestly at this stage wont be upset if we dont buy a starting XI player,but a couple to give depth and cover.End of the season I may have changed this view!!Cos hopefully winks&lamela to come back is almost like 2 signings anyhow.

I completely agree my problem is I think we need to improve our bench....with players that arent bench players they can actually push out the 1st team players. I think our 1st team un injured can win the title. You need the strength in depth and we have quality.
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

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@Don Diaz will be pleased.
It's becoming a bit silly isn't it?? Just sign Mbappe and be done with it....pay £10m in instalments over the next 9 years or sell him for double that in 5 years time, or just get Dembele instead for half that amount.

It's not rocket salad is it?
 
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