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Don Diaz

Don Diaz

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Soooo now being reported by the shit rags that Ericson is off to Utd.... if that happens he is a money grabbing shit cunt and I hope Lamella breaks his fucking ankles...
I can’t see Levy selling to United, and Eriksen reason for leaving was ‘cultural’ ie going to Spain. I mean I don’t want to offend, but Manchester is not high on my list of cultural destinations.

He’s verbally agreed a contract with us, which doubles his wages but hasn’t signed it, so your description of being a money grabber may well be right. In which case bugger off Christian and enjoy games in Azerbaijan next year in the Europa League.
 
J.spurs

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I'm torn about it. I mean, obviously Eriksen is already on more money than I'll ever see, but he's been earning well under a lot of players that aren't fit to lace his boots (I mean in the league, not the club) for a long time now. It definitely leaves a bad taste, but I don't begrudge him trying to squeeze a few quid out of Levy. He could double his wages and still make half what some clubs pay their players. Fuck it, if he wants to stay, great. That's my preferred option. If not, he's been here longer than a lot of players we remember as legends, so no hard feelings for me. I just wish the window would close already.
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

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We have to start getting these things done earlier. Even if we bring in players this week, it will take until Christmas to bed them in and we could be 15 points behind the leaders by then.

I often wonder whether Levy saving a few quid with his late dealings is really worth it. I fully understand that he is a brilliant negotiator but to put a season behind the 8-ball just to save a few million in a marketplace as inflationary as this one seems rather counter-intuitive.
 
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peterballb

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We have to start getting these things done earlier. Even if we bring in players this week, it will take until Christmas to bed them in and we could be 15 points behind the leaders by then.

I often wonder whether Levy saving a few quid with his late dealings is really worth it. I fully understand that he is a brilliant negotiator but to put a season behind the 8-ball just to save a few million in a marketplace as inflationary as this one seems rather counter-intuitive.
There was competition for Ndombele. We got it done. Betis and Fulham want 20-30M over the Transfermarkt valuations. There is no one else offering the amounts the clubs are asking. Same goes for Fernandez - worth 50 odd M Euros, Sporting want 75M. Had either or all of Fulham, Real Betis or Sporting agreed to reasonable valuations, the deals would have been done. Further, ITK suggests GLC has already been agreed several times only for the goal posts to be moved.

There are consequences to paying over the odds. Buy Lo Celso for 88M and you have to pay him like he is an 88M player. He just isn't. Looks dynamic, great feet, a nose for goal and great vision. He has a long way to go though.

It is also worth noting that Lo Celso and Sessegnon only just returned from international duty and, if info is correct, Sessegnon is still recovering from a hamstring injury. So I am unsure what getting them in here last week would have done to speed things up 3-4 months. Sessegnon, once recovered, will be fine as he played in the PL last season. Lo Celso, Ndombele and Fernandez will all take time, as is always the case (Moura took 3 months to get his feet under him).

We did get Clarke done (he looks to be kicking on),along with Solberg, Etete, so it's not like we have done nothing.

It is never just about one person. Harry wanted Defoe, Keane and Crouch after we had let them go because they no longer met Spurs needs. Would have been cheaper to sign any and all of Suarez, Dzecko and Falcao. They have a list, with valuations and they go down the list and will not pay over the valuations (on transfer fee and or wages). It has been the same every year. The whole "it's just Levy" thing is nonsense. He does, however, make certain that we stick to the list and not let panic or emotions force us down paths we cannot manage. Few could do the job he does. To suggest that the scouts and coaches and DOF's (in the past) have no input is just not true.

United's Turnover was 590M GBP in 2017/2018. Ours was 381 (Everton, one of our comparables with Villa when Levy came in is 200M behind us). United can buy their way out of mistakes. City and Chelsea use Monopoly money. Mistakes, especially on wages, are far more costly to us. Critical to Pompey, Birmingham and so many more. We have been creeping slowly closer to Arsenal and Liverpool. Finish ahead of Arsenal again and have them again out of the CL and they will be feeling the pinch.

Will I be disappointed if Lo Celso and or Fernadez and Sessegnon don't join Ndombele? Absolutely. Still 2 and a half days to go. Levy has been here before. He will come through, if reason prevails.
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

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There was competition for Ndombele. We got it done. Betis and Fulham want 20-30M over the Transfermarkt valuations. There is no one else offering the amounts the clubs are asking. Same goes for Fernandez - worth 50 odd M Euros, Sporting want 75M. Had either or all of Fulham, Real Betis or Sporting agreed to reasonable valuations, the deals would have been done. Further, ITK suggests GLC has already been agreed several times only for the goal posts to be moved.

There are consequences to paying over the odds. Buy Lo Celso for 88M and you have to pay him like he is an 88M player. He just isn't. Looks dynamic, great feet, a nose for goal and great vision. He has a long way to go though.

It is also worth noting that Lo Celso and Sessegnon only just returned from international duty and, if info is correct, Sessegnon is still recovering from a hamstring injury. So I am unsure what getting them in here last week would have done to speed things up 3-4 months. Sessegnon, once recovered, will be fine as he played in the PL last season. Lo Celso, Ndombele and Fernandez will all take time, as is always the case (Moura took 3 months to get his feet under him).

We did get Clarke done (he looks to be kicking on),along with Solberg, Etete, so it's not like we have done nothing.

It is never just about one person. Harry wanted Defoe, Keane and Crouch after we had let them go because they no longer met Spurs needs. Would have been cheaper to sign any and all of Suarez, Dzecko and Falcao. They have a list, with valuations and they go down the list and will not pay over the valuations (on transfer fee and or wages). It has been the same every year. The whole "it's just Levy" thing is nonsense. He does, however, make certain that we stick to the list and not let panic or emotions force us down paths we cannot manage. Few could do the job he does. To suggest that the scouts and coaches and DOF's (in the past) have no input is just not true.

United's Turnover was 590M GBP in 2017/2018. Ours was 381 (Everton, one of our comparables with Villa when Levy came in is 200M behind us). United can buy their way out of mistakes. City and Chelsea use Monopoly money. Mistakes, especially on wages, are far more costly to us. Critical to Pompey, Birmingham and so many more. We have been creeping slowly closer to Arsenal and Liverpool. Finish ahead of Arsenal again and have them again out of the CL and they will be feeling the pinch.

Will I be disappointed if Lo Celso and or Fernadez and Sessegnon don't join Ndombele? Absolutely. Still 2 and a half days to go. Levy has been here before. He will come through, if reason prevails.

Good post, and I get it. I absolutely do.

I guess the problem I am having is that we seem to be haggling over about 7M for Lo Celso (if you can believe the media) and it can ultimately cost us more than that by delaying too long or missing out altogether. We need players in to do a pre-season. Even if we land Lo Celso now (and Sessegnon for that matter) we won't really have them up and running by Christmas. At least we have been able to partially bed in Ndombele but we are a club that needs everything to go right to compete at the top of the table and these hiccups are more amplified with us that say City, Liverpool or United.

I also know that negotiations of this nature are not as simple as meeting the asking price.

That said, the European transfer window being open two weeks longer than the EPL one puts us at significant disadvantage and we need to be taking measures to offset this. Eriksen, who is carrying on like a pork-chop is not helping the issue either.
 
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peterballb

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Good post, and I get it. I absolutely do.

I guess the problem I am having is that we seem to be haggling over about 7M for Lo Celso (if you can believe the media) and it can ultimately cost us more than that by delaying too long or missing out altogether. We need players in to do a pre-season. Even if we land Lo Celso now (and Sessegnon for that matter) we won't really have them up and running by Christmas. At least we have been able to partially bed in Ndombele but we are a club that needs everything to go right to compete at the top of the table and these hiccups are more amplified with us that say City, Liverpool or United.

I also know that negotiations of this nature are not as simple as meeting the asking price.

That said, the European transfer window being open two weeks longer than the EPL one puts us at significant disadvantage and we need to be taking measures to offset this. Eriksen, who is carrying on like a pork-chop is not helping the issue either.
I hear you. I am pretty sure that the original spread was a lot more than 7M. I don't buy all of what is reported but the buyout clause is reported as 88M and that seems to be what they wanted. What is now being reported as the "agreed" price (assuming they do not again change the deal) is $52M with a further 7M or so in potential add-ons. Had we offered 45M and they said 55M, a deal would have been done long ago. Lo Celso would still not have been back until after the Audi Cup, so not really a lot of difference (also why no real pressure) just as Sessegnon is just back and is reportedly rehabbing.

You are correct though, with the 6th highest turnover in the PL, there is a lot that needs to go right for us. It would have been great to have the transfers all sorted before the Audi Cup. Yet here we are, again. And yes, I get the collective frustration.

New players to the league always take time to bed in. I do not expect any foreign player to just be up to the pace. Moura, who had played in France, looked off the pace until May of last year.

Yes, if we still have Eriksen after the EPL deadline, it could be very bad.

Hoping all is way clearer in a few days.
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

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There was competition for Ndombele. We got it done. Betis and Fulham want 20-30M over the Transfermarkt valuations. There is no one else offering the amounts the clubs are asking. Same goes for Fernandez - worth 50 odd M Euros, Sporting want 75M. Had either or all of Fulham, Real Betis or Sporting agreed to reasonable valuations, the deals would have been done. Further, ITK suggests GLC has already been agreed several times only for the goal posts to be moved.

There are consequences to paying over the odds. Buy Lo Celso for 88M and you have to pay him like he is an 88M player. He just isn't. Looks dynamic, great feet, a nose for goal and great vision. He has a long way to go though.

It is also worth noting that Lo Celso and Sessegnon only just returned from international duty and, if info is correct, Sessegnon is still recovering from a hamstring injury. So I am unsure what getting them in here last week would have done to speed things up 3-4 months. Sessegnon, once recovered, will be fine as he played in the PL last season. Lo Celso, Ndombele and Fernandez will all take time, as is always the case (Moura took 3 months to get his feet under him).

We did get Clarke done (he looks to be kicking on),along with Solberg, Etete, so it's not like we have done nothing.

It is never just about one person. Harry wanted Defoe, Keane and Crouch after we had let them go because they no longer met Spurs needs. Would have been cheaper to sign any and all of Suarez, Dzecko and Falcao. They have a list, with valuations and they go down the list and will not pay over the valuations (on transfer fee and or wages). It has been the same every year. The whole "it's just Levy" thing is nonsense. He does, however, make certain that we stick to the list and not let panic or emotions force us down paths we cannot manage. Few could do the job he does. To suggest that the scouts and coaches and DOF's (in the past) have no input is just not true.

United's Turnover was 590M GBP in 2017/2018. Ours was 381 (Everton, one of our comparables with Villa when Levy came in is 200M behind us). United can buy their way out of mistakes. City and Chelsea use Monopoly money. Mistakes, especially on wages, are far more costly to us. Critical to Pompey, Birmingham and so many more. We have been creeping slowly closer to Arsenal and Liverpool. Finish ahead of Arsenal again and have them again out of the CL and they will be feeling the pinch.

Will I be disappointed if Lo Celso and or Fernadez and Sessegnon don't join Ndombele? Absolutely. Still 2 and a half days to go. Levy has been here before. He will come through, if reason prevails.
Excellent post, most sense we’ve heard on here for a while. Keep them coming.
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

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I'm torn about it. I mean, obviously Eriksen is already on more money than I'll ever see, but he's been earning well under a lot of players that aren't fit to lace his boots (I mean in the league, not the club) for a long time now. It definitely leaves a bad taste, but I don't begrudge him trying to squeeze a few quid out of Levy. He could double his wages and still make half what some clubs pay their players. Fuck it, if he wants to stay, great. That's my preferred option. If not, he's been here longer than a lot of players we remember as legends, so no hard feelings for me. I just wish the window would close already.
The rumour is that we have offered a new contract that doubles his wages, he’d verbally agreed it but hasn’t signed it. So I don’t know where it goes from there.....
 
Yid

Yid

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The rumour is that we have offered a new contract that doubles his wages, he’d verbally agreed it but hasn’t signed it. So I don’t know where it goes from there.....
I get the impression were all going to be inventing new derogatory nicknames for the little fucker very soon...
 
Chavhater01

Chavhater01

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I get the impression were all going to be inventing new derogatory nicknames for the little fucker very soon...

I don’t have an issue at all with him wanting to go to a team that will realistically challenge for major trophies. He’s been incredible for us and certainly don’t begrudge him the chance of trying something new but going to Utd would be a bitter pill to swallow.
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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I get the impression were all going to be inventing new derogatory nicknames for the little fucker very soon...
pig boy,bacon fucker can go play on thursday nights in the artic circle and asia if he wishes.

How`s that??
 
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Dustin

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Telling ya, one thing is for sure.....

My socks are still firmly on...!!!

I'm not disappointed, dont get me wrong it's just nothing has gone BANG from apparently nowhere, ala Van De Vart.

The one thing I miss from the "Arry out of a car window" era is the deadline day shenanigans....

It was cringe as fuck but fuck me, the twists and turns with choppers here there and fucking everywhere and sightings of who knows who at bus stops and train stations was good fun for a few hours...

I think the prem needs a new Redknap.... theres no real characters anymore.
^ this guy. lol. Have half a mind to search back through deadline days of old and make a top 10 list of your best mental breakdowns. Keep rolling out the hits!

@The Cryptkeeper since when do you believe anything in the media? As exciting as Lo Celso looks, we still have Eriksen and he has always showed himself to be a class act when it matters.

But more importantly, I have a feeling that Ndombele will prove to be our best signing in years. Little nervous about right back, but still Ndombele alone makes this one of our best windows in a very long while.
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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There was competition for Ndombele. We got it done. Betis and Fulham want 20-30M over the Transfermarkt valuations. There is no one else offering the amounts the clubs are asking. Same goes for Fernandez - worth 50 odd M Euros, Sporting want 75M. Had either or all of Fulham, Real Betis or Sporting agreed to reasonable valuations, the deals would have been done. Further, ITK suggests GLC has already been agreed several times only for the goal posts to be moved.

There are consequences to paying over the odds. Buy Lo Celso for 88M and you have to pay him like he is an 88M player. He just isn't. Looks dynamic, great feet, a nose for goal and great vision. He has a long way to go though.

It is also worth noting that Lo Celso and Sessegnon only just returned from international duty and, if info is correct, Sessegnon is still recovering from a hamstring injury. So I am unsure what getting them in here last week would have done to speed things up 3-4 months. Sessegnon, once recovered, will be fine as he played in the PL last season. Lo Celso, Ndombele and Fernandez will all take time, as is always the case (Moura took 3 months to get his feet under him).

We did get Clarke done (he looks to be kicking on),along with Solberg, Etete, so it's not like we have done nothing.

It is never just about one person. Harry wanted Defoe, Keane and Crouch after we had let them go because they no longer met Spurs needs. Would have been cheaper to sign any and all of Suarez, Dzecko and Falcao. They have a list, with valuations and they go down the list and will not pay over the valuations (on transfer fee and or wages). It has been the same every year. The whole "it's just Levy" thing is nonsense. He does, however, make certain that we stick to the list and not let panic or emotions force us down paths we cannot manage. Few could do the job he does. To suggest that the scouts and coaches and DOF's (in the past) have no input is just not true.

United's Turnover was 590M GBP in 2017/2018. Ours was 381 (Everton, one of our comparables with Villa when Levy came in is 200M behind us). United can buy their way out of mistakes. City and Chelsea use Monopoly money. Mistakes, especially on wages, are far more costly to us. Critical to Pompey, Birmingham and so many more. We have been creeping slowly closer to Arsenal and Liverpool. Finish ahead of Arsenal again and have them again out of the CL and they will be feeling the pinch.

Will I be disappointed if Lo Celso and or Fernadez and Sessegnon don't join Ndombele? Absolutely. Still 2 and a half days to go. Levy has been here before. He will come through, if reason prevails.
I think its the constant media "putting it out there" that does everyones head in.Honestly,before may,I had never really heard of lo celso,fernandes,this napoli right back whatever he is called,and probably if every paper,sky,twitteratti,ITK wasnt giving it the big un,we would would all be a lot saner.
I myself dont care about line ups,who we buy,tactics (all with in reason OFC),I cant control it consequently I dont let it do my nut in.But plenty do.Having seen Parrott,Skipp and Tanganga look part of it pre-season,I do question why we love "the one of our owns" but are so beguiled as to wanting to go buy players from foreign leagues,who will take time,be hit and miss and not trust what we have coming through.There is a balance,and the standard of those 3 has to fill us with hope?and yet all the shouting is about signing,not signing players we never really cared a jot about 2 month ago.
Regardless,having no Poch pre-season,these lads wont fully feature until the autumn anyway even if signed,Ndombele looks shagged out already,he`s clearly not used to the physical demand Poch places on players,the fitness our coaches demand isnt something accomplished in 4 weeks to be their satisfaction.Honestly if we got sessegnon,that makes most sense to me,and if eriksen goes,so be it even without a replacement.Buying a chancey £60m player is mostly a placebo for the fans,almost every signing midfield or attacking has taken time to integrate,be that Son,moura,sissoko.
Basically,I think what we have now,is what we`ll get come aug,sept,oct even if we throw another £100m at 2 signings.We need to accept what we have as a 25 man squad,and look upwards.What else can we do,moan,call levy names,call poch a puppet,slag off aurier,foyth,kwp,eriksen??,cos that really helps.
 
Yid

Yid

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I don’t have an issue at all with him wanting to go to a team that will realistically challenge for major trophies. He’s been incredible for us and certainly don’t begrudge him the chance of trying something new but going to Utd would be a bitter pill to swallow.
That's my point bruv.... if that shitcunt club acquire his services it would simply be for money and that makes him a clock brained clunge trumpet.
 
Yid

Yid

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pig boy,bacon fucker can go play on thursday nights in the artic circle and asia if he wishes.

How`s that??
It needs to happen more naturally mate, but it will evolve.... good start.

I get the pig association but I like a bacon sarnie too much to besmerch the swine....

Although "MoneySwine" has a ring to it.
 
Yid

Yid

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^ this guy. lol. Have half a mind to search back through deadline days of old and make a top 10 list of your best mental breakdowns. Keep rolling out the hits!

@The Cryptkeeper since when do you believe anything in the media? As exciting as Lo Celso looks, we still have Eriksen and he has always showed himself to be a class act when it matters.

But more importantly, I have a feeling that Ndombele will prove to be our best signing in years. Little nervous about right back, but still Ndombele alone makes this one of our best windows in a very long while.
I admit.... In the past I was drawn in on many an occaision and dummies were spat out.... I'd like to think I have mellowed maybe even matured... or just give less of a fuck nowerdays...

I also think Ndom will be class once he is at full tilt in the prem... it may not be instant though.
 
Chavhater01

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Very interesting this Coutinho situation. Butter my arse, this would be a hell of a coup and fuck the Scouse connection, i’d love this to happen.
 
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So apparently we are in for Coutinho, Fernandes and Dybala, with Aurier and Eriksen heading out. Makes no sense but do it just for kicks!
 
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Havocc

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Dybala could be as good as signing as Van Der Vaart.....
 
J.spurs

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I admit.... In the past I was drawn in on many an occaision and dummies were spat out.... I'd like to think I have mellowed maybe even matured... or just give less of a fuck nowerdays...

I also think Ndom will be class once he is at full tilt in the prem... it may not be instant though.
Havent we all. Fortunately most of our meltdowns and drunken tirades sank to the bottom of the internet with the old place though.
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

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^ this guy. lol. Have half a mind to search back through deadline days of old and make a top 10 list of your best mental breakdowns. Keep rolling out the hits!

@The Cryptkeeper since when do you believe anything in the media? As exciting as Lo Celso looks, we still have Eriksen and he has always showed himself to be a class act when it matters.

But more importantly, I have a feeling that Ndombele will prove to be our best signing in years. Little nervous about right back, but still Ndombele alone makes this one of our best windows in a very long while.

Fair point re: believing anything in the media.

As for Eriksen, it is crystal clear that he no longer wants to be here and has played his poker hand very, very badly.
 
Yid

Yid

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yes please..💙

This kid imo is the absolute real fucking deal over anything we have got... and while some will lambast me for it, I'd put him in front of Kane for absolute pure ability and potential.

2 seasons and he will be a record signing for Madrid. I'd put money on it.

For all those reasons.... we wont get him.
 
Glenjamin

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Dybala doesn't want to leave but isn't needed by Juve. I'm sure he'll ask for some ridiculous wage just like United, and stay.

Countinho. I always said if Eriksen wanted out he would be the best replacement. I still believe that. I said I don't think the team needs anyone else but if Eriksen leaves we do.

Fernandes is being touted to everyone.

Reality... window shuts in 2 days and we'll hear we tried to sign new players, Eriksen got his move even though it weakens us, but least our stadium has more seats now.
 
J.spurs

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In unrelated news, I now quite like Koscielny:
 
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