Yid
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I almost agree bud but it's a binary choice.... as is theirs to either cease or continue to spread hate.
Bystander apathy is a cunt of a thing. I'd rather believe in my instincts and react according to my core values.
Bystander apathy is a cunt of a thing. I'd rather believe in my instincts and react according to my core values.
Dorset
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Bystander apathy - a very good description. Not talking about things does not make them go away. Ignoring any sort of 'isms is the same as condoning them. I have been accused recently of hate speech against the facists - yep, guilty and proud of it. I have faith in the British public, eventually the sleeping giant will wake up and say no fucking more of this disgusting xenophobia - just like in the battle of Cable street - they shall not pass. These cunts are a minority, getting smaller every day as more and more decent folks realise they have been lied to and what they thought they were voting for and why was a mistake. That dwindling minority is why the cunts are so against a 2nd referendum and scream comically that democracy is undemocratic.
Rev John Ripsher
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Yup, me too. Being called a racist, a Nazi and a cunt, (Gee thanks, Simon) does not really make for a positive discussion. Way too toxic for us Spurs mates.
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Chavhater01
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We should absolutely have another referendum, unfortunately it’s highly unlikely. A fairly large percentage who voted to leave, voted that way as a protest vote, which to be honest I kind of understand but many of those voters, are now aware that they made a huge mistake. They should be given the right to right their wrongs!!
What else utterly dumbfounded me yesterday, was that I was speaking to a rather elderly lady, she’s semi related and we were talking about Brexit and I asked her what she voted, and she replied leave, I asked why, she replied, i’m sick of these ‘foreigners’ exhausting our nhs, taking jobs etc. I replied by telling her the benefits that eu workers bring to our economy, she replied, not the ones from Europe...wtf! So I told her that what you voted for, is essentially to get rid of those workers that play an enormous part in helping this country and you want to open the floodgates to the very ‘foreigners’ that you want rid of. The uninitiated and uninformed have potentially ruined this country for years to come and this is absolute bollocks! Can’t blame them entirely, they were force fed lies by politicians that are expected to help the country, not self serving wankers putting the future health of this country at risk due, to their own personal gain and the brexiteers want their sovereignty back!!
What else utterly dumbfounded me yesterday, was that I was speaking to a rather elderly lady, she’s semi related and we were talking about Brexit and I asked her what she voted, and she replied leave, I asked why, she replied, i’m sick of these ‘foreigners’ exhausting our nhs, taking jobs etc. I replied by telling her the benefits that eu workers bring to our economy, she replied, not the ones from Europe...wtf! So I told her that what you voted for, is essentially to get rid of those workers that play an enormous part in helping this country and you want to open the floodgates to the very ‘foreigners’ that you want rid of. The uninitiated and uninformed have potentially ruined this country for years to come and this is absolute bollocks! Can’t blame them entirely, they were force fed lies by politicians that are expected to help the country, not self serving wankers putting the future health of this country at risk due, to their own personal gain and the brexiteers want their sovereignty back!!
Dorset
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The Christmas messages from the unelected Queen and the leader of a government with no majority, writing in the Daily Express, yeah really, she has a piece in the Nazi mouthpiece of hate - are urging the people to put aside their differences, yeah right, thats going to happen. That nasty woman May is 'asking us to focus on what really matters', OK, I will focus on trying to stop you and your merry band of facists ruining the future of the country, that really matters, not your career, thanks for the advice.
My Christmas message to Mrs May is, tell the truth, do what is best for the country and admit that there is no form of Brexit that will not seriously damage the UK and you will revoke article 50 until a new referendum can be held outline the actual, real choices available, then you will the call a general election.
My Christmas message to Mr Corbyn is that you should become the democratic man you say you are, when the party members are voting for you as leader, and listen to Labour members who are overwhelmingly against Brexit and make that the core of Labour's policy, then you will resign and let Kier Starmer lead labour to a landslide victory.
My Christmas message to the Queen is, I am sure you a very nice lady, but this is 2018 and the idea of you being head of state because God decided it or because your ancestors killed more people than anybody else is as bonkers as Brexit, so, sorry love I don't really care what you say.
My Christmas message to Mrs May is, tell the truth, do what is best for the country and admit that there is no form of Brexit that will not seriously damage the UK and you will revoke article 50 until a new referendum can be held outline the actual, real choices available, then you will the call a general election.
My Christmas message to Mr Corbyn is that you should become the democratic man you say you are, when the party members are voting for you as leader, and listen to Labour members who are overwhelmingly against Brexit and make that the core of Labour's policy, then you will resign and let Kier Starmer lead labour to a landslide victory.
My Christmas message to the Queen is, I am sure you a very nice lady, but this is 2018 and the idea of you being head of state because God decided it or because your ancestors killed more people than anybody else is as bonkers as Brexit, so, sorry love I don't really care what you say.
Dorset
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Taking back control eh? The country is being blackmailed by May, Leadsom and co. Vote for the deal or they will pull the plug on the country's life support.
May is literally threatening the country with economic and social devastation in order to win a parliamentary vote. It is the most recklessly irresponsible peacetime act of any prime minister in modern history.
Jonathan Lis
What Andrea Leadsom says is not to be trusted. She is an ardent Brexiteer and a little Englander, and all she wants is Brexit at any costs, and she’s willing to let the whole of British economy go to the wall and have people’s jobs and living standards severely affected. She’s just being deeply irresponsible
Joanna Cherry
May is literally threatening the country with economic and social devastation in order to win a parliamentary vote. It is the most recklessly irresponsible peacetime act of any prime minister in modern history.
Jonathan Lis
What Andrea Leadsom says is not to be trusted. She is an ardent Brexiteer and a little Englander, and all she wants is Brexit at any costs, and she’s willing to let the whole of British economy go to the wall and have people’s jobs and living standards severely affected. She’s just being deeply irresponsible
Joanna Cherry
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Yid
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Motspur Hotspur
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Sorry mate (it's Christmas day) but that is just right wing propaganda bullshit designed to force opinion on a no deal. All it proves is that British people need more medical attention.
Damn it i promised myself I wouldn't get involved with this thread!
Yid
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What the fuck do you read mate....?
Where do you drag this drivel from?
So you actually believe this rubbish or are you too far down the rabit hole to turn back now?
Motspur Hotspur
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Don't really want to bring this thread back to life as such but just found this (via bbc!) and thought it was very interesting. It's all a game!
Dorset
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This thread needs to be kept alive mate. Ignoring an issue that will seriously damage our country because it's 'political' is what the Daily Express reading, Love Island watching chaps would like to do, turn a blind eye and you get facism.
This video could be summed up as 'How to use sophisticated marketing techniques to sell snake oil to gullible people'. ALL the issues he talks about that triggered the venom of the Leave voters were total bollocks. There were no positives in their campaign because anyone with more than one brain cell could have seen that there aren't any. It was all about fear and hatred.. The nonsense about the 2008 crash being caused by Europe, the ridiculous lie about how the Euro, which we are not part of and probably never will be, had failed - why is the pound now worth fuck all against this failed currency then? Immigration which mostly comes from non EU countries - and every study shows is a positive factor. Government failures - do fucking what? The spin here was impressive, the UK government had failed the UK so let's tell the gullible sheep that is the fault of the EU. Turkey joining the EU was a masterstroke of propaganda, there is no way in a million years that they will be doing the EU. Of course their biggest and best lie was the £350m to the NHS bus with the celebrity politician standing in front of it.
Yid
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Cool, rich clever people manipulating poor thick people...
It does make you want to simple pack up and fuck off to a log cabin and live a meager, contented, happy life not knowing about all the ways your are controlled and manipulated on a daily basis...
Don Diaz
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Brexit - The Uncivil War, featuring the Cummings master 'Leave' winning strategy is on Channel 4 starring Benedict Cumberbatch, at 9pm tonight.
Dorset
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@corroded , I'll reply to your comment about me using the terrm nazi here, even though you didn't bother mentioning me so I could see you were upset with me. People who are not interested in politics don't have to come in here, they can just ignore the rise of fascism and yes nazism that is happening in the world and being accepted because the nazis are Spurs fans, here in this forum. OK, they are not as extreme as the German nazis, yet, but their views are the same. Yes this is a'fucking football forum' but it's also the real world and you and others turning a blind eye to nazis, oh dear I said it again, makes me almost as fucking angry as the fucking nazis.
conor1
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Me in this thread.........
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corroded
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I'm not Jonathon Pie, I swear.
Dorset
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The latest in a long line of Brexit 'dividends'.
Jaguar Land Rover to create 3,000 new jobs - in Slovakia
Jaguar Land Rover to axe 5,000 jobs - in the UK
No deal supporters should seek mental health counselling.
Jaguar Land Rover to create 3,000 new jobs - in Slovakia
Jaguar Land Rover to axe 5,000 jobs - in the UK
No deal supporters should seek mental health counselling.
Dorset
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I'm glad people think Brexit is funny. What a jolly wheeze it is to post infantile videos and have a good old chuckle. I see Brexit as an attack on my family. My 14 year grand-daughter was talking to me over Christmas, asking what is was like when I worked in countries like Germany and Austria and she was upset when she said she would liked to have studied and worked in Europe and she couldn't understand why the Brexit people wanted to stop her doing that. How do you explain the reasons to a kid?
Anyone who attacks my family is my enemy and I would not piss on them if they were burning, this is not 'just politics'
Anyone who attacks my family is my enemy and I would not piss on them if they were burning, this is not 'just politics'
Dorset
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Insurer Axa is moving staff to Ireland in the light of the UK’s impending exit from the EU.
Brexit dividend? More jobs gone and still there are gullible people supporting No Deal.
Brexit dividend? More jobs gone and still there are gullible people supporting No Deal.
Rev John Ripsher
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"My husband works for JLR. Job losses are NOTHING to do with Brexit. It’s due to the fact that no-one is buying diesel cars as they are put off by the costs and restrictions. Blame Sadiq khan plan to ban diesel cars from London. Blame China for not buying JLR cars". #fakenews
Anti-Brexit not anti-fascist
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Rev John Ripsher
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Very simple, people studied and worked in Europe before the EU existed, while the UK was in the EU, and no doubt nothing will change apart from a few forms to fill in after we leave the EU. *Fake news*
Rev John Ripsher
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Axa is also moving similar amounts of staff from France in order to integrate their risk and reinsurance units. Nothing whatsoever to do with the favourable Irish tax regime.
Rev John Ripsher
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I see Brexit as an attack on my family.
Anyone who attacks my family is my enemy and I would not piss on them if they were burning, this is not 'just politics'
The Cryptkeeper
The Aussie Yid
People who use the term "fake news" are incapable of real debate and unable to process facts.
Generally speaking, they are morons.
Dorset
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.. and 'Project Fear' that's a dead giveaway that a sensible conversation will not be happening.
Liam
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People of my generation don't buy diesel cars, nothing to Khan. Spreading one form of fake news to get overcome another form of fake news just makes you look out of touch. China just aren't buying them as much as expected. It's neither brexit or sadiq khans fault.
Yid
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Blame the Asian.....
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corroded
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Nice dodging of my point though. I'm also not going to get into how privileged that example is, by the way... I'm sure if I dig back I can find other reasons why, but that one really is a joke surely?
Out of interest, the Police are currently investigating whether calling someone is a Nazi is a hate crime after what happened with Anna Soubry
For the record, I voted remain and when I did a political compass recently ended up as a slightly left leaning libertarian. Couldn't be much further away from either extreme, me.
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