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Transfer watch (Summer 2018)

skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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Poch on the Jack Grealish situation
You know I don’t like to talk about players in another team. There are many rumours during the transfer window. I think there’s no point talking about players that are in another club. I am happy with the squad and I am happy with the players. I think always it’s to be right in your judgement and your possibilities and of course working hard to try to improve your squad. But when it’s not possible it’s not possible and you have to move on and believe in the way they we work and be competitive. I have no doubt that we are going to be competitive, with or without signings.​
A proper rant from Poch about people making too much of a drama out of football decisions
I think it’s never they [Alderweireld, Rose, Dembele] were away from our thoughts. They are Tottenham players and always they were in my plans. Different situations, sure the players have different targets in their careers but not only them but the rest of the players. Look, for me it’s always the same, for me they are part of the team. Like always, for me it’s about to take the right decision. Unfortunately I can only pick 11 every single game. I am a person who always tries to be fair with everyone. But sometimes you cannot be fair when you can only pick 11, you cannot pick 12 or 13 or 14 in a squad with 25 players. Sure you cannot be fair with everyone. Look I am so clear. I was so clear with everyone. I need their commitment. 25 players will full commitment but not only one week, two weeks, one month and if I no play then I give up and start to say ‘The gaffer is a bad guy’. No it’s not a drama.
I think football we make it all a little bit drama and football is not a drama. Drama is another thing. Health is drama, war is drama. I don’t want to be a demagogue. But drama is many things in life but football is joy, to enjoy. It provides you with a lot in life to enjoy. I am such a privileged person thanks to that passion that is football. I can be here, I can talk English, I can learn English, I can travel around the world. I give to my people, to my family, my parents, my brothers and friends, try to help and give a very good life.
That is why sometimes I am so upset if one person can’t play a game it looks like it’s a massive drama. It’s not a drama. There are many things that don’t help the situations that happen. We need to try to be responsible, to be professional, but knowing that football is not a drama, it is a joy. Of course people that invest a lot of money in football it is a drama to lose money. But nobody put a gun to their head and said invest in football. Football is about to win or lose. The problem is when there is not a good balance between winning and losing and it’s more about business and money. In that money yes you start to feel that football is a drama.
I want to be away from that drama and I need feel that emotion and translate to my players that football is emotions. It’s the context of emotions. Yes it’s a business, it’s about money, but when you are on the pitch you need to feel you love the game. If you don’t love the game and your priority is business that it’s difficult to enjoy your game and you cannot sure enjoy with your team-mates, your family or your fans. This is why it’s so important to make it clear that football is not a drama. We make a lot of drama and in the real life are a lot of dramas. Football decisions are not things that we need to put in a situation that looks like it is something we cannot deal with.​
Poch on whether he's happy about no transfers
I am happy to keep all the squad together. There are many rumours during the summer about players out. I think the club made a massive effort to try to extend contracts with people like Harry Kane. He is one example but there are many examples too. I think the club is doing amazing effort to try to finish the stadium as soon as possible, ready to compete then, and the lodge finished at the training ground. It’s a massive effort from the club. Of course it’s difficult to understand for people in football that Tottenham didn’t sign or sell players, but sometimes in football you need to behave differently. If we are happy with our squad and cannot improve our squad, sometimes it’s better to keep our squad together. We believe a lot in our players and there’s no point now to say, why not repeat a similar season like last year or the season before, and with more experience. Now with players who compete at a high level in the World Cup or now we have the captain who is the world champion, the one who lifted the trophy. That is I think a fantastic experience for him to translate to our team. Sure we are going to be better, no doubt about that.​
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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Pochettino: "The market was crazy. The World Cup changed the mind of everyone. We didn’t sell players & with 25 in the squad it is difficult to add. It's not about adding because it's fashionable to sign players. [It’s about] if you really need & if you can get your target"
"I'm not worried, not sad, I'm so happy. If you can’t add a player that can improve your squad, the most important thing is to make sure you don't lose your best players. I think that was a great job from the club to keep the best players - and the best manager”
 
Motspur Hotspur

Motspur Hotspur

Player in Training.
so basically in closing Levy is total dick who has screwed the fans over with massive ST hikes and delivered fuck all on the pitch as let's face it Poch is the one doing all the graft where it really matters, who wanted a new stadium anyway? the property developer did.

This is probably out of order but I don"t give a shit right now.
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
Holding on to the whole squad might be the best bit of business never done by Levy, or it might be an almighty fuck up. Levy is a cunt, that is of course a fact, nobody can argue with that, it ain't fake news, post truth or even an alternative truth, he's a cunt. But, time will tell if he is the sort of cunt who will give us the best season we have ever had in the Premiership or he's the sort of cunt who trousers a huge pile of wedge and fucks off.. He might be both sorts of cunts, but if he is not at the very least the first variety of cunt, the cunt who wins us the title and or the Champions league or FA Cup then he will be a total cunt.
 
BrooklynYid

BrooklynYid

Player in Training.
Who needs new players when you've got Sissoko and Janssen! :confused:
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
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A weird transfer window.
Chavs pay £71m for a 23 year old keeper. Is that a bit mental? Hugo must be worth £100m easy, don't tell Levy. West Ham got mugged by the goons, I would have been asking for at least £50m to take Wheelchair off their hands if I was them. Bernard goes to Everton. Danny didn't get his dream move to PSG.
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

Zero tolerance of Numpty's
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It's all a load of stuff and nonsense really isn't it? I don't know why we all get so worked up about it, I sometimes wish I didn't. It is peculiar that none of the major clubs really signed anyone though, Liverpool excepted. Them and City to beat this year, maybe? Although if that Egyptian king falls over again they might be in trouble, and I would hate Aguero to get injured early on............he's in my fantasy team.

COYS let's have it.
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

Zero tolerance of Numpty's
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Poch on the Jack Grealish situation
You know I don’t like to talk about players in another team. There are many rumours during the transfer window. I think there’s no point talking about players that are in another club. I am happy with the squad and I am happy with the players. I think always it’s to be right in your judgement and your possibilities and of course working hard to try to improve your squad. But when it’s not possible it’s not possible and you have to move on and believe in the way they we work and be competitive. I have no doubt that we are going to be competitive, with or without signings.​
A proper rant from Poch about people making too much of a drama out of football decisions
I think it’s never they [Alderweireld, Rose, Dembele] were away from our thoughts. They are Tottenham players and always they were in my plans. Different situations, sure the players have different targets in their careers but not only them but the rest of the players. Look, for me it’s always the same, for me they are part of the team. Like always, for me it’s about to take the right decision. Unfortunately I can only pick 11 every single game. I am a person who always tries to be fair with everyone. But sometimes you cannot be fair when you can only pick 11, you cannot pick 12 or 13 or 14 in a squad with 25 players. Sure you cannot be fair with everyone. Look I am so clear. I was so clear with everyone. I need their commitment. 25 players will full commitment but not only one week, two weeks, one month and if I no play then I give up and start to say ‘The gaffer is a bad guy’. No it’s not a drama.​
I think football we make it all a little bit drama and football is not a drama. Drama is another thing. Health is drama, war is drama. I don’t want to be a demagogue. But drama is many things in life but football is joy, to enjoy. It provides you with a lot in life to enjoy. I am such a privileged person thanks to that passion that is football. I can be here, I can talk English, I can learn English, I can travel around the world. I give to my people, to my family, my parents, my brothers and friends, try to help and give a very good life.​
That is why sometimes I am so upset if one person can’t play a game it looks like it’s a massive drama. It’s not a drama. There are many things that don’t help the situations that happen. We need to try to be responsible, to be professional, but knowing that football is not a drama, it is a joy. Of course people that invest a lot of money in football it is a drama to lose money. But nobody put a gun to their head and said invest in football. Football is about to win or lose. The problem is when there is not a good balance between winning and losing and it’s more about business and money. In that money yes you start to feel that football is a drama.​
I want to be away from that drama and I need feel that emotion and translate to my players that football is emotions. It’s the context of emotions. Yes it’s a business, it’s about money, but when you are on the pitch you need to feel you love the game. If you don’t love the game and your priority is business that it’s difficult to enjoy your game and you cannot sure enjoy with your team-mates, your family or your fans. This is why it’s so important to make it clear that football is not a drama. We make a lot of drama and in the real life are a lot of dramas. Football decisions are not things that we need to put in a situation that looks like it is something we cannot deal with.​
Poch on whether he's happy about no transfers
I am happy to keep all the squad together. There are many rumours during the summer about players out. I think the club made a massive effort to try to extend contracts with people like Harry Kane. He is one example but there are many examples too. I think the club is doing amazing effort to try to finish the stadium as soon as possible, ready to compete then, and the lodge finished at the training ground. It’s a massive effort from the club. Of course it’s difficult to understand for people in football that Tottenham didn’t sign or sell players, but sometimes in football you need to behave differently. If we are happy with our squad and cannot improve our squad, sometimes it’s better to keep our squad together. We believe a lot in our players and there’s no point now to say, why not repeat a similar season like last year or the season before, and with more experience. Now with players who compete at a high level in the World Cup or now we have the captain who is the world champion, the one who lifted the trophy. That is I think a fantastic experience for him to translate to our team. Sure we are going to be better, no doubt about that.​
When he finishes in football, he will make a brilliant diplomat.
 
Chavhater01

Chavhater01

Player in Training.
I’m actually relatively happy, we’ve kept everyone we needed too, especially Poch, being the most important. But i really wanted us to at least strengthen the middle of the park, everywhere else we still look pretty strong, barring up front but our record without Harry, is actually really impressive, so doesn’t massively concern me.

This season is gonna be really interesting, lot of clubs below the top 6 have spent a lot of money, so be interesting to see if it makes any difference to the table. Think we’ve got a real fight on our hands to get top 4, the rest of the top 6 have, if not all improved their 1st teams, then definitely their squads.
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
How about some stats? Yeah, everybody loves stats innit?

In the last 5 years 7 teams have achieved Champions league qualifying positions in the premier league. Their net spending over 5 seasons including the window just closed was in Euros (for many reasons) was roughly:

Manchester City 650m
Manchester United 550m
Arsenal 281m
Chelsea 181m
Liverpool 143m
Leicester City 138m
Tottenham Hotspur 36m

Just 1.76% of the total was spent by us! Here's a graph thingy showing the percentages, 60% of the total was spent by the two Manchester clubs. The total was about 1,979m Euros, its that nearly 2 trillion? I don't know because I don't know what a trillion is when it's at home.


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Pointless I suppose, but interesting? If you are a bit Aspergers then yes.
 
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Yid

Yid

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I am reasonably sure that 2 trillion is nearly twice as much as 1 trillion.

I can't fucking believe that much money has been spent on fucking football in 5 years.

The NHS gets 1.6 billion a year (and dropping). Over the same perion I make that 8 Billion. 0.4% of the money 2 clubs have spunked on players.

Sickening.
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

Zero tolerance of Numpty's
Founding Member
Sickening.
Precisely.

If we are the new model ie coach and recruit young players rather than buying expensive ones and you too can finish 3rd, 2nd, 3rd and above the Manchester clubs. Why isn’t everyone doing it? Aren’t Klopp, Guardiola, Mourinho supposed to be some of the best managers in the world? The money is obscene, perhaps everyone (chairmen) have all realised that enough is enough. Are loans the way forward?
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
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I am reasonably sure that 2 trillion is nearly twice as much as 1 trillion.

I can't fucking believe that much money has been spent on fucking football in 5 years.

The NHS gets 1.6 billion a year (and dropping). Over the same perion I make that 8 Billion. 0.4% of the money 2 clubs have spunked on players.

Sickening.
Arrrrgggghhhh! My spreadsheet thing has gone mad! I don't know!!! It might be 2 billion, I THINK it might be nearly 2 BILLION not Trillion!

Thanks for the info on trillions, now I know. BUT, as I said I didn't have a fucking scobby what a trillion was and it should have said billions not trillions! Yes that makes more sense 1.979,000,000

That 1,979 million Euros was just for those 7 CL qualifying teams. The top 20 (by expenditure) teams in England spent 3,582 million Euros in 5 years (according to Transfermarkt). That is 714 million € per year per year.

Or..... is that total bollocks?
 
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J.spurs

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Well, I'm a little concerned. On a positive note, at least it wasn't as bad as it was for Man United. Just hope we don't face any big head-turning bids from continental clubs before the window closes.
 
wilson

wilson

Player in Training.
“If we are happy with our squad and cannot improve our squad, sometimes it’s better to keep our squad together.”
I love Poch but I fail to see how or why we were unable to improve a squad that has Sissoko as an integral part of it, Llorente as first choice backup to Kane and our 4 CM options consisting of Dier, 2 injury prone senior players and 1 injury prone youth/developing player.

Surely we will still see a couple of sales and loans out? Janssen can’t stay for example.

Do you know what really hurts though? The fact that I actually think we can’t sell Sissoko now this window even if an offer comes in as we need him as cover for CM. That’s right... we NEED Sissoko.
 
Yid

Yid

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Arrrrgggghhhh! My spreadsheet thing has gone mad! I don't know!!! It might be 2 billion, I THINK it might be nearly 2 BILLION not Trillion!

Thanks for the info on trillions, now I know. BUT, as I said I didn't have a fucking scobby what a trillion was and it should have said billions not trillions! Yes that makes more sense 1.979,000,000

That 1,979 million Euros was just for those 7 CL qualifying teams. The top 20 (by expenditure) teams in England spent 3,582 million Euros in 5 years (according to Transfermarkt). That is 714 million € per year per year.

Or..... is that total bollocks?
Nope..... You have utterly fucked my brain up now.

I don't think the analysis needs to go any further than: These fucking clubs are spend a shit load of cash while we fucking ain't.

And the numbers are still sickening.
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

The Aussie Yid
I love Poch but I fail to see how or why we were unable to improve a squad that has Sissoko as an integral part of it, Llorente as first choice backup to Kane and our 4 CM options consisting of Dier, 2 injury prone senior players and 1 injury prone youth/developing player.

Surely we will still see a couple of sales and loans out? Janssen can’t stay for example.

Do you know what really hurts though? The fact that I actually think we can’t sell Sissoko now this window even if an offer comes in as we need him as cover for CM. That’s right... we NEED Sissoko.
One does not need Sissoko. One wants and embraces the big, clumsy idiot.
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

The Aussie Yid
Precisely.

If we are the new model ie coach and recruit young players rather than buying expensive ones and you too can finish 3rd, 2nd, 3rd and above the Manchester clubs. Why isn’t everyone doing it? Aren’t Klopp, Guardiola, Mourinho supposed to be some of the best managers in the world? The money is obscene, perhaps everyone (chairmen) have all realised that enough is enough. Are loans the way forward?
It only takes one revolutionary to change the way things are done. Pochettino is that revolutionary.

Why isn't everyone doing it, you say? In my opinion it is because we are a society that demands instant gratification and most of the gaffers out there are lazy fuckers who buy into this "results now" mantra...and you can hardly blame them given how quick most owners are to sack them if the results go south.

Pochettino, on the other hand is a genius. I truly believe that he is the best manager in football today. This is a program that he has put together, not a quick fix. Our squad is still very young. As long as we stay the course, success will follow. I am so confident in the future of this great club and if anything, this transfer window has just elevated my confidence levels. Let the suckers splash the millions. We'll develop the kids and build on our second to none culture.
 
Style And Glory

Style And Glory

Player in Training.
I agree Crypty.
There is not another high profile coach / manager out there like him. He's willing to work & he demonstrates & instills that work ethic in his players.
Furthermore, He's willing to think outside the box like his mentor Bielsa.
We are so fortunate to have him.
I just hope that this "project" continues to interest him & he doesn't get disillusioned by a lack of backing.

Lots of press about us being the first club in the Prem era to not make a deal in the summer TW.
I was surprised that we didn't pick up even one new player. Thought there was at least someone on this Planet Earth that could improve our team in some way (& be 'getable').

Nevertheless, we have to march on as is.
But I don't believe that we are standing still like many are saying.
This is a young, dynamic squad And the reality of it is that with our current squad we never really stand still. Poch nurtures the players, helps them develop & improve, all the while building on the experience they have accumulated as a group. 9 of them were also in the semi-finals of the WC. The captain of the WC winning country is also with us. So much more is being brought to our table without new players. These are intangibles that are difficult to buy.

It may not be ideal, but it is something to continue building on. And it's something more than most other clubs can boast about.
 
Style And Glory

Style And Glory

Player in Training.
As for Sissoko? I'm always the optimist.

He hasn’t blossomed like we may have hoped. I feel there’s a player in there as we witnessed in Euro ’16. In some way, he, &/or with the help of Poch, needs to regain that confidence. Ideally, you want a player to play fearlessly, to express his abilities, but I feel he is playing “not to make a mistake”. Hence why he quickly dishes the ball off sideways or backwards rather than push forward with powerful runs. Some of those runs he made in the past were quite terrifying for defenders. Unfortunately, they weren't for our benefit. But, if he does regain that confidence, it will improve our squad much like another incoming player.
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

The Aussie Yid
I agree Crypty.
There is not another high profile coach / manager out there like him. He's willing to work & he demonstrates & instills that work ethic in his players.
Furthermore, He's willing to think outside the box like his mentor Bielsa.
We are so fortunate to have him.
I just hope that this "project" continues to interest him & he doesn't get disillusioned by a lack of backing.

Lots of press about us being the first club in the Prem era to not make a deal in the summer TW.
I was surprised that we didn't pick up even one new player. Thought there was at least someone on this Planet Earth that could improve our team in some way (& be 'getable').

Nevertheless, we have to march on as is.
But I don't believe that we are standing still like many are saying.
This is a young, dynamic squad And the reality of it is that with our current squad we never really stand still. Poch nurtures the players, helps them develop & improve, all the while building on the experience they have accumulated as a group. 9 of them were also in the semi-finals of the WC. The captain of the WC winning country is also with us. So much more is being brought to our table without new players. These are intangibles that are difficult to buy.

It may not be ideal, but it is something to continue building on. And it's something more than most other clubs can boast about.
There is an AFL coach out here who inherited a team of rejects and misfits in 2004. A team that was so bad as to be a laughing stock. His name is Alastair Clarkson and he built a team from nothing to win 4 premierships (titles) since 2008. He did it by playing kids and more kids, only adding experienced players that could fill a specific role and that he could get on the cheap. He trains his players to buy into the team first ethos and is unafraid to throw young players into big games.

He is the Australian version of Pochettino, acknowledged as a genius and the greatest coach of the last 30 years, if not the greatest coach my national sport has ever seen. It is uncanny how much of what Pochettino is doing is the same as the Clarkson model. And that is why I remain so confident.
 
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Flump

Flump

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It's all a load of stuff and nonsense really isn't it? I don't know why we all get so worked up about it, I sometimes wish I didn't. It is peculiar that none of the major clubs really signed anyone though, Liverpool excepted. Them and City to beat this year, maybe? Although if that Egyptian king falls over again they might be in trouble, and I would hate Aguero to get injured early on............he's in my fantasy team.

COYS let's have it.
here here mighty squirrel.
 
N

NiceOneCyril

Player in Training.
I don’t understand what happened in the transfer window, but Poch apparently does and that’s all that matters. We will no doubt be fine, or we can look forward to a 10-year austerity drive. Take your pick.

Anyway, there was one one big incoming event - Dorset is here. That made me happy.
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
I don’t understand what happened in the transfer window, but Poch apparently does and that’s all that matters. We will no doubt be fine, or we can look forward to a 10-year austerity drive. Take your pick.

Anyway, there was one one big incoming event - Dorset is here. That made me happy.
Oi, fuck off with that soppy bollocks! Happy? I'll soon fix that.
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
Nope..... You have utterly fucked my brain up now.

I don't think the analysis needs to go any further than: These fucking clubs are spend a shit load of cash while we fucking ain't.

And the numbers are still sickening.
I have done some careful analysis and research, built the models, plotted the curves and the conclusion I have come to is - you are right, it's a shit load. Just looking at the TV rights for 2018-19 the five packages sold to the TV companies cost 4.64 BILIION pounds - and this time I am confident that billions is right. Compared to the NHS budget of 126.4 billion it ain't much, but it would pay for a lot of nurses (if they could actually recruit any now).

Fuck me, £126.4 billion sounds a lot innit? That's only £1,919 per person in the UK, £36 a week. I cost them way more than that!, I have been getting my money's worth over the last 3 years, but as I have been paying in since I was 15 I deserve it, so you healthy fuckers can pay more to keep me healthy.
 
skiathospurs

skiathospurs

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I was 100% fine with the window, until you just reminded me that Sissoko is still on the books.
I admit most of my concern is players not moved out,janssen,nkoudou,Llorente?Sissoko,rose&toby if poch has really banished them from his plans??I know we can still sell to europe but too late to reinvest.Sissoko I just dont get it,people have concerns about lamela but at least he can get nasty,put a foot in,fight for the side even when his touch is missing or confidence low,I just see nothing with sissoko,i dont see desire,fight I see fear instead.I am perplexed why in his 3rd year he is still on the books,and a bit the same with janssen and nkoudou.
 
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