Glenjamin
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Yeah the weather isn't great.. It's somehow even worse than the mainland.
Down that whole side of the coast is beautiful. Some really nice coast roads down round Galway n Limerick direction.
Midgies are dicks!
Yeah the weather isn't great.. It's somehow even worse than the mainland.
Down that whole side of the coast is beautiful. Some really nice coast roads down round Galway n Limerick direction.
Midgies are dicks!
C
corroded
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Pro or anti EU, partisanship aside... fuck me articles 11 and 13 are so stupid it hurts.
Dorset
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Hmmm, dunno really. Personally I don't give a fuck about Twitter and Facebook and 'meme culture' can go fuck itself. Youtube can be useful, but stopping people using other bloke's' work as their own seems to make sense.
The world of the web has got used to nicking copyrighted material, why the fuck should anyone be allowed to slap a video on the Internet using music they haven't paid a licence for? Maybe people will start creating their own stuff rather than nicking other people's?
I don't think 11 & 13 will survive in the forms they are now, the 'law' is going to be voted on by all the 27 countries and most of them will get bought off by Google, so 11 will quietly die. The evil facist UK Tories will of course support it wholeheartedly and probably call for even stricter controls. 13 will be almost impossible to enforce and Google will splosh some more money around to protect their Youtube revenue, so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Even if 11 and 13 pass in their current forms, I wouldn't be very bothered by it, I fucking hate the fucking Internet.
skiathospurs
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Always works trying to put the cat back in the bag!!Maybe the internet is out of control,but good luck trying to stop it now to anyone unless you`re a massive dick-tator with omnipitent powers like north korea,china,house of saud etc.
If they cant stop jihadi calls to war,how to build a bomb online, i dont see how they will stop background muszak,illegal streams........
Yid
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You see there is no money or incentive to stop the former. There is an element of controlling us if we are scared enough...!!!
Where as streaming.... limits the revenue of those huge media companies who in turn prop up the (highest paying) political party by spreading their.......... lies...!!!
Dorset
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So we have the last Budget before the country jumps off the cliff. The evil fucking Tories are trying to kid you that they are doing their best for the hard working folks. It is like someone who has been kicking you in both bollocks for 8 years saying you should be grateful because now they are only going to kick you in the left nut.
What an almighty waste of time. If they carry on fucking the country up the arse by allowing this Brexit suicide pact to actually happen, then all the forecasts and predictions will be just piss in the wind. All those fucking lies told to the gullible halfwits who exercised 'the will of the people' are now being exposed. Anyone who thinks that Britain will be better off out of the EU really needs to take their medication. Every single expert, business organisation, independent research organisation and business leader is saying it will cost us more than the £350m per week that cunt Johnson said we would save, but the fucking Tories are still going ahead with it.
I am leaving the UK, but I don't want to see those who remain having their futures destroyed by a bunch of lying fucking flag waving facists. I want my grandchildren to have the opportunities I had to live and work in Europe. 700,000 people marched in London - the pathetic excuse of a government just ignore them and carry on executing what 37% of the electorate asked for.
What an almighty waste of time. If they carry on fucking the country up the arse by allowing this Brexit suicide pact to actually happen, then all the forecasts and predictions will be just piss in the wind. All those fucking lies told to the gullible halfwits who exercised 'the will of the people' are now being exposed. Anyone who thinks that Britain will be better off out of the EU really needs to take their medication. Every single expert, business organisation, independent research organisation and business leader is saying it will cost us more than the £350m per week that cunt Johnson said we would save, but the fucking Tories are still going ahead with it.
I am leaving the UK, but I don't want to see those who remain having their futures destroyed by a bunch of lying fucking flag waving facists. I want my grandchildren to have the opportunities I had to live and work in Europe. 700,000 people marched in London - the pathetic excuse of a government just ignore them and carry on executing what 37% of the electorate asked for.
Yid
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Founding Member
Telling ya... once this is all done and dusted... I'm buying a fucking gun...!!!
I think we will are heading for the rise of some nasty civil unrest and I dont think it will be a flash in the pan, over in 5 minutes job.
Enough to overthrow a government? Probably not, but enough to change the political landscape of our country... I fucking hope so.
I'd be on the boat with you pal if my kids weren't at difficult ages. It's an absolute shit show
I think we will are heading for the rise of some nasty civil unrest and I dont think it will be a flash in the pan, over in 5 minutes job.
Enough to overthrow a government? Probably not, but enough to change the political landscape of our country... I fucking hope so.
I'd be on the boat with you pal if my kids weren't at difficult ages. It's an absolute shit show
Dorset
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New 'polls' show that most voters prefer the lying, devious, sociopath Prime Ministers 'deal' to crashing out of the EU with no deal. Cunts, cunts, cunts. These devious fucking polls commissioned by the facist right wing media get right on my fucking tits. They could have asked if voters would prefer to be shot in the kneecaps or in the head. The question they will not ask because the answer is so fucking obvious is:
1 Shot in the head
2 Shot in the kneecaps
3 No thanks, I'd rather not be shot anywhere ta.
Who says that the deal or no deal would be worse that no fucking retarded Brexit?
Business - the CBI
The NHS
The Treasury
The Chancellor
The Bank Of England
Anyone with a fucking brain
How the fuck is this still even being considered?
1 Shot in the head
2 Shot in the kneecaps
3 No thanks, I'd rather not be shot anywhere ta.
Who says that the deal or no deal would be worse that no fucking retarded Brexit?
Business - the CBI
The NHS
The Treasury
The Chancellor
The Bank Of England
Anyone with a fucking brain
How the fuck is this still even being considered?
Wotspur
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When Black Wednesday happened who camemout well Joe Lewis and George Soros , none from the chancellor, the Chief of BOE , no Professor of economics at the CBI , And Yet now they can GUARANTEE the economy will crash , they said that after the vote , it crashed for at most a week before rising back beyond , they said house prices would crash 18% , Did your house go down invalue between 2 yrs ago and when you sold it .
Our only problem was the Govt produced for 9m a Propagander pahmplet and those of us read it and realised it’s the same old bollocks that EU has been spouting for ever.
My grandparents and parents voted in 73 for an enhanced trade deal with no tariffs , not for the movement of Parliament , 10,000 Bureaucrats in Brussels and stup rules .......I’ve just watched a Utube video of an English fishing boat , out to catch squid and cuttlefish , BUT accidentally caught mainly Bass , ( didn’t the fuckers know they shouldn’t be in that area ) all so they don’t get FINED for catching the wrong type of fish by the EU quotas . He had to return 10k worth of Bass , all dead .......the copy is on my Facebook .
Please,don’t call all Brexiteeers little Englanders And rascist the majority of us aren’t
Our only problem was the Govt produced for 9m a Propagander pahmplet and those of us read it and realised it’s the same old bollocks that EU has been spouting for ever.
My grandparents and parents voted in 73 for an enhanced trade deal with no tariffs , not for the movement of Parliament , 10,000 Bureaucrats in Brussels and stup rules .......I’ve just watched a Utube video of an English fishing boat , out to catch squid and cuttlefish , BUT accidentally caught mainly Bass , ( didn’t the fuckers know they shouldn’t be in that area ) all so they don’t get FINED for catching the wrong type of fish by the EU quotas . He had to return 10k worth of Bass , all dead .......the copy is on my Facebook .
Please,don’t call all Brexiteeers little Englanders And rascist the majority of us aren’t
Dorset
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According to the feds the best case scenario is that GDP takes a 2.1% hit under the LBD (Lying Bitch Deal). The worst case scenario, crashing out with no deal, which she is trying to blackmail MPs with is 10.7%.
If that very best forecast of 2.1% was achieved on a GDP of around £2 trillion that would be £42,000m per year or £807m per week, hugely different to the £350m a week that Boris and the other Brexit liars said we would save by leaving the EU. That is a LOSS of £807m per week, Brexit dividend my arse.
If she does decide to destroy the country rather than admit her deal is total fucking bollocks then the cost will be £210 billion - £210,000,000,000 per year. The NHS cannot survive with the current level of funding, knock 10% off that and it would die. Violent crime is out of control, imagine what it would be like with 10% less plod on the streets. How much council tax do you pay? You will be dreaming of paying such a low amount in a few years time. Taxes will have to rise massively just to maintain the piss poor level of services currently provided.
Fucking cunt Brexiters destroying the future of the country because they don't like foreigners. Really fucking stupid because all their fucking mental arguments about the EU citizens lowering wages will be blow out of the water by the increasing number of Asian immigrants who will work for even less. Every credible study has shown EU immigrants to be nett contributors to the UK economy, but the facist cunts don't care.
If that very best forecast of 2.1% was achieved on a GDP of around £2 trillion that would be £42,000m per year or £807m per week, hugely different to the £350m a week that Boris and the other Brexit liars said we would save by leaving the EU. That is a LOSS of £807m per week, Brexit dividend my arse.
If she does decide to destroy the country rather than admit her deal is total fucking bollocks then the cost will be £210 billion - £210,000,000,000 per year. The NHS cannot survive with the current level of funding, knock 10% off that and it would die. Violent crime is out of control, imagine what it would be like with 10% less plod on the streets. How much council tax do you pay? You will be dreaming of paying such a low amount in a few years time. Taxes will have to rise massively just to maintain the piss poor level of services currently provided.
Fucking cunt Brexiters destroying the future of the country because they don't like foreigners. Really fucking stupid because all their fucking mental arguments about the EU citizens lowering wages will be blow out of the water by the increasing number of Asian immigrants who will work for even less. Every credible study has shown EU immigrants to be nett contributors to the UK economy, but the facist cunts don't care.
Dorset
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What would I care what someone who proudly displays a FLA logo, which to me is the same as a fucking swastika, as his avatar and has said here 'if they don't fit in they can fuck off'? FLA, NF, BNP, KKK - all the fucking same.
Stick you racist FLA , your ignorant racist Brexit and your Youtube crap up your arse. Brexiteers = Little Englanders, xenophobes and racists.
You can stick me on ignore, because that's what I am doing to you.
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Yid
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How can it not crash when every free trade to deal we have is torn to fucking shreds... we become a 3rd country and have to trade on vastly inferior terms to.... Everyone. In the last 2 years we've replaced those 750+ deals with...... Fuck all.
Buying things gets more expensive. I can barely afford month to month now and I anit in a shit job.
So when the migrant workers leave who is going to do their jobs...? No cunt, that's who. Services will start to fail and be cut. It will then start to be deemed not fit for purpose and companies will be brought into fix it..... for profit. If there is a margin to be made they will want it to be as big possible, you'd be a plank to not realise that and in turn you'd have to pay for the service we currently get for free.
Also those migrants paying tax.... lots of juicy dosh to fund these services.... wheres that hole going to be plugged. The smack head habitual career unemployed lay about shit cunts we've funded for the last 3 or 4 decades...? Yeah I want them helping out in the operating theatre, teaching my kids, driving trains and busses.
The two deals on offer are categorically shiter than the current one we have. You gonna phone ya mortgage company and ask them to lob another 400 quid and 15 years on ya mortgage for no sane fucking reason.
It's ok to admit you were wrong for fuck sake.
The point has been made that the politics in this and almost every other country is corrupt and no representstive of you and I or anyone outside of the top 5%.
It needs to change but we need to not blow our balls off changing it though.
The trouble is I think the damage may well have already been done... the bank and big business are done. They're already moved most of their operations to mainland Europe so were left with the artisan jam industry to plug the holes for jobs and tax they will no longer pay...
Don Diaz
Zero tolerance of Numpty's
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I’m afraid that however much we rant and rave, and even those who voted for Brexit initially now realise what that meant and the potential damage that will inevitably come - and it is inevitable, right across the board, at every level of society, financially and economically, it’s now probably too late.
I’m resigned simply to just how bad it might be and limiting the damage where possible. A second vote might salvage something if ‘Remain’ won but then it’s a ‘no deal’ scenario in March. That would also likely mean the reappearance of UKIP and certainly a split along Nationalist lines in the Tory party.
Those that simply voted because they didn’t want the ‘Romanians’ living next door or because they thought that twat Boris was telling the truth with his £350m every week for the NHS, now know what they’ve done. They need to ask themselves where is Michael Brexit Gove now, snidey little bastard. You Brexit people trusted a whole pack of lies and now you us and the rest of the country are all going to end up in a whole heap of shit, with everyone being worse off. It’s a disgrace.
I’m resigned simply to just how bad it might be and limiting the damage where possible. A second vote might salvage something if ‘Remain’ won but then it’s a ‘no deal’ scenario in March. That would also likely mean the reappearance of UKIP and certainly a split along Nationalist lines in the Tory party.
Those that simply voted because they didn’t want the ‘Romanians’ living next door or because they thought that twat Boris was telling the truth with his £350m every week for the NHS, now know what they’ve done. They need to ask themselves where is Michael Brexit Gove now, snidey little bastard. You Brexit people trusted a whole pack of lies and now you us and the rest of the country are all going to end up in a whole heap of shit, with everyone being worse off. It’s a disgrace.
Dorset
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Brexit types won't like this because it was made by an intelligent person, Stephen Fry. Just like Pol Pot they don't like intellectuals or experts.
Yid
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Founding Member
Project fear is what they will cite.
The biggest challenge is unfortunately for those of us with the intelligence to look past our lives and our immediate decissions, to put our personal feelings aside and objectively choose with our eyes open what's best for the worlds future. That is tough because what were saying is that it's ok that you people have fucked us and yourselves in the arse and we won't react... that's not generally my MO or anyone elses. It's called being a grown up.... I'm not used to that, but I'm trying like fuck.
The reason for taking this snowflake approach is that we need these mongs to realise we are not the enemy. That we effectively want the same things but have chosen different paths to try and achieve it. There is a mjnority of people who want something entirely diferent (top 5% earners) and have used 50% of the country by lying to them and using very sophisticated targeted marketing to play on peoples fears. It's crazy how deep this rabbit hole goes. We're talking fully oligarch funded state terrorism to tear down governments and destabilise democracies. That's why we have brexit, Trump and the far right marching across parts of Europe almost unchallenged.
Just have a wee look at Carol Cadwalladr
This guy explains it quite succinctly. All I ask is that if you have to make a decision that will affect you, your kids, grandkids, and probably their kids by taking their rights, money and future, look at all the facts and ask yourself why?
The biggest challenge is unfortunately for those of us with the intelligence to look past our lives and our immediate decissions, to put our personal feelings aside and objectively choose with our eyes open what's best for the worlds future. That is tough because what were saying is that it's ok that you people have fucked us and yourselves in the arse and we won't react... that's not generally my MO or anyone elses. It's called being a grown up.... I'm not used to that, but I'm trying like fuck.
The reason for taking this snowflake approach is that we need these mongs to realise we are not the enemy. That we effectively want the same things but have chosen different paths to try and achieve it. There is a mjnority of people who want something entirely diferent (top 5% earners) and have used 50% of the country by lying to them and using very sophisticated targeted marketing to play on peoples fears. It's crazy how deep this rabbit hole goes. We're talking fully oligarch funded state terrorism to tear down governments and destabilise democracies. That's why we have brexit, Trump and the far right marching across parts of Europe almost unchallenged.
Just have a wee look at Carol Cadwalladr
This guy explains it quite succinctly. All I ask is that if you have to make a decision that will affect you, your kids, grandkids, and probably their kids by taking their rights, money and future, look at all the facts and ask yourself why?
Dorset
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Micheal Gove: “There is a real risk if we don’t vote for this deal there may be a majority in the House of Commons for a second referendum.”
The definition of modern democracy - ' a real RISK' that the people should be consulted on something that will affect them and their families for generations. What the fuck? Of course there should be a second referendum. The lies have been exposed, the Leave campaign have been found guilty of electoral fraud, and the magical unicorns promised by Farage, Johnson, Rees Mogg, Fox etc have been showto be imaginary.
Why would a second referendum be a 'risk'? Surely if they are so confident in their position they would welcome a chance to confirm that the British public did want to carry on with Brexit and were happy with the deal or no deal on offer, or to say that on reflection they realised that remaining would be better. That would be democratic wouldn't it?
The figures produced by the Treasury last week have forecasted that we will be between £28,000m and £98,000m worse off any ANY Brexit scenario. The false £350m a week that Johnson plastered on his bus, proven so many times to be a complete lie would, if it was not imaginary work out at £18,200m a year. Even a dumb Brexiteer would have to agree that the very best deal we can get will leave the country £14,000,000,000 a year worse off, so why the fuck would anybody want to agree to that. Of course they will howl 'Project Fear' as they have been brainwashed into doing by the self-intersted parties anytime any non-political body does it's job and tells the truth. The Bank Of England, The CBI, The Treasury, the NHS - are they all really 'Remoaners'? No. Of course forecasts can be wrong as the Brexit 'winners' point out, but really, there are no credible organisations, including the Leave faithful who can say that there really is a 'dividend' to Brexit. Anybody who continues saying we will be better off alone is just doubling down on stupidity.
I know that Brexit is all about racism and xenophobia. In modern days the Little England Nazis are not allowed to go after the gays, the Irish or the blacks liked they used to, so they will settle for the Europeans (and the Remoaners). They need someone to blame for everything they don't like in their lives, anybody who dares to be different from them, Brexit gives them the justification they need to exercise their hatred. Islamic terrorism gives them justification to hate the Muslims as well, all 1.5 billion of them, who despite the lies spewed out by evil right wing groups founded by convicted criminals like the FLA (do some research),are for the most part decent people who want nothing to do with extremism. The terrorists love these anti-muslim gangs, they make their job so much easier.
I have to say i also gives me a platform to express my hatred of the extremism right, something I have been doing since the 1970s when I took to the streets to defend my community against the National Front. I want fuck all to do with these people, I will debate politics sensibly with anybody, but racism, xenophobia and unfounded hatred has nothing to do with politics, and I wouldn't piss on them if they were burning, let alone try and have a sensible conversation with them.
Obviously I am talking to myself now, nobody would be daft enough to read this, but I am having a nice time , so I'll carry on.
I will be leaving the UK in 8 weeks, but the damage will be done to my family and that cannot be allowed to stand, so I will do what I can to fight Brexit, for ever. I will never build any bridges, never forgive and never get behind any deal that May comes top with that hurts my family. I have a feeling that despite the lies of being able to attract the best people' post-Brexit, many of our brightest and best will be leaving as well, of course I don't count myself in that group, my leaving will have very little impact, but if any Brexittard thinks Germany, France and the other leading countries of the EU will not be making it very attractive for our brainy folks to come and live in an open Europe where their freedom of movement is guaranteed, then they are even more deluded than I thought.
The definition of modern democracy - ' a real RISK' that the people should be consulted on something that will affect them and their families for generations. What the fuck? Of course there should be a second referendum. The lies have been exposed, the Leave campaign have been found guilty of electoral fraud, and the magical unicorns promised by Farage, Johnson, Rees Mogg, Fox etc have been showto be imaginary.
Why would a second referendum be a 'risk'? Surely if they are so confident in their position they would welcome a chance to confirm that the British public did want to carry on with Brexit and were happy with the deal or no deal on offer, or to say that on reflection they realised that remaining would be better. That would be democratic wouldn't it?
The figures produced by the Treasury last week have forecasted that we will be between £28,000m and £98,000m worse off any ANY Brexit scenario. The false £350m a week that Johnson plastered on his bus, proven so many times to be a complete lie would, if it was not imaginary work out at £18,200m a year. Even a dumb Brexiteer would have to agree that the very best deal we can get will leave the country £14,000,000,000 a year worse off, so why the fuck would anybody want to agree to that. Of course they will howl 'Project Fear' as they have been brainwashed into doing by the self-intersted parties anytime any non-political body does it's job and tells the truth. The Bank Of England, The CBI, The Treasury, the NHS - are they all really 'Remoaners'? No. Of course forecasts can be wrong as the Brexit 'winners' point out, but really, there are no credible organisations, including the Leave faithful who can say that there really is a 'dividend' to Brexit. Anybody who continues saying we will be better off alone is just doubling down on stupidity.
I know that Brexit is all about racism and xenophobia. In modern days the Little England Nazis are not allowed to go after the gays, the Irish or the blacks liked they used to, so they will settle for the Europeans (and the Remoaners). They need someone to blame for everything they don't like in their lives, anybody who dares to be different from them, Brexit gives them the justification they need to exercise their hatred. Islamic terrorism gives them justification to hate the Muslims as well, all 1.5 billion of them, who despite the lies spewed out by evil right wing groups founded by convicted criminals like the FLA (do some research),are for the most part decent people who want nothing to do with extremism. The terrorists love these anti-muslim gangs, they make their job so much easier.
I have to say i also gives me a platform to express my hatred of the extremism right, something I have been doing since the 1970s when I took to the streets to defend my community against the National Front. I want fuck all to do with these people, I will debate politics sensibly with anybody, but racism, xenophobia and unfounded hatred has nothing to do with politics, and I wouldn't piss on them if they were burning, let alone try and have a sensible conversation with them.
Obviously I am talking to myself now, nobody would be daft enough to read this, but I am having a nice time , so I'll carry on.
I will be leaving the UK in 8 weeks, but the damage will be done to my family and that cannot be allowed to stand, so I will do what I can to fight Brexit, for ever. I will never build any bridges, never forgive and never get behind any deal that May comes top with that hurts my family. I have a feeling that despite the lies of being able to attract the best people' post-Brexit, many of our brightest and best will be leaving as well, of course I don't count myself in that group, my leaving will have very little impact, but if any Brexittard thinks Germany, France and the other leading countries of the EU will not be making it very attractive for our brainy folks to come and live in an open Europe where their freedom of movement is guaranteed, then they are even more deluded than I thought.
Yid
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Founding Member
@Dorset
Dunno if you've seen this, but this is the rabbit hole explained and tells us about all we are seeing around the world today.
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/11/16/why-britain-needs-its-own-mueller/
Worth 10 mins.
Dunno if you've seen this, but this is the rabbit hole explained and tells us about all we are seeing around the world today.
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/11/16/why-britain-needs-its-own-mueller/
Worth 10 mins.
Yid
Moderator
Founding Member
Dorset
The Voice Of Reason
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Very interesting mate. The Brexit mob of course will refuse to believe they have been influenced and they made up their own minds by carefully researching fucking Facebook, Twitter and Youtube. They think Farage is some sort of fucking messiah, not a Russian stooge. I doubt if the facist cunt or Banks realise themselves how they have been played by master manipulators.
Even if none of it were true, the simple question that everybody who felt they were informed enough to vote and to double down on their stupidity by still supporting Brexit is 'Why do Putin and Trump like Brexit so much?'. The answer is so gobsmackingly fucking obvious that even a Brexittard should be able to work it out. Brexit weakens the EU and Britain - duh!
The Brexit supporting herd will not give a fuck about any of this, the Precious is theirs, no amount of facts, illegality or analysis will poison the purity of their dream. If you are against them destroying the country to prove how patriotic they are then you a a traitor, how very fucking ironic!
Although the thought of being in my 7th decade is a total cunt, I really, really hate being old, I am sort of glad that my time is coming to an end, the future of our country and the world is looking a bit grim. nationalism is a cancer that is spreading, the ignorant cunts don't see the difference between that and patriotism, they think 'it can never happen again'. Xenophobia and racism are becoming acceptable - even in this forum (as long as it's only against Poles, Europeans and Muslims).
If people don't stand up to this nationalist bollocks and hard-right hatred then I don't see how a 3rd world war can be avoided. It might be in 10 or 20 years but it's surely coming.
Don Diaz
Zero tolerance of Numpty's
Founding Member
There won't be a third world war, countries like the US, Russia, China will take over countries and continents like Africa through financial investment., it's already happening. Prisoners of Geography by Tim Marshall is a very interesting read and explains much about individual countries Global foreign policy.
Dorset
The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
Hmm, dunno. The UK and the US have mentally ill leaders at the moment. The Attorney General is as I type this is proving that Parliament can be ignored and the will of the people is in fact the will of one unstable woman. When civil unrest gets out of control a nice little World War will seem quite appealing to the dictators and the rise of nationalism (facism) all over the world will help their cause.
Maybe there won't be a replay of WW2, maybe the next 'big one' will be fought differently but the results could be similar.
Don Diaz
Zero tolerance of Numpty's
Founding Member
Yes, Germany has successfully taken over much of Europe through trade rather than tanks, whilst we’re telling one of our biggest trading partners we don’t like them anymore...ridiculous. Meanwhile China is taking over Africa, whilst the US and Russia carve up the rest.
Dorset
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More lies being exposed now. Theresa May's attempt to blackmail Parliament by saying it's her rubbish deal or the total catastrophe of crashing out with no deal has been rumbled.
The Advocate General of the EU says that Article 50 can be unilaterally withdrawn. I expect that was in the legal advice that the government are refusing to make available to Parliament. This is serious stuff, Parliament have voted and said the government must hand this over, but they are refusing. The minority government are saying they are above Parliament and they make the rules, even the stupidest, dumb Brexit worshipper should be worried about this.
Democracy in the UK is shaky at best, the FPTP system is seriously undemocratic, allowing any government, let alone one without a majority in parliament dictatorial powers should frighten the bollocks off of anyone, even a Brexit supporter with no grasp of reality.
OK, so we now know that the EU has confirmed what anyone with more than one brain cell knew all along, we do have sovereign powers and we have the sovereign power to revoke Article 50. Anybody in the UK, rabid leave or fanatic remainer has to agree that the whole thing is fucked up. At the very least Article 50 must be revoked and a new referendum held now we all know so much more about what the likely outcomes of the deal, no deal or remaining really are.
The Advocate General of the EU says that Article 50 can be unilaterally withdrawn. I expect that was in the legal advice that the government are refusing to make available to Parliament. This is serious stuff, Parliament have voted and said the government must hand this over, but they are refusing. The minority government are saying they are above Parliament and they make the rules, even the stupidest, dumb Brexit worshipper should be worried about this.
Democracy in the UK is shaky at best, the FPTP system is seriously undemocratic, allowing any government, let alone one without a majority in parliament dictatorial powers should frighten the bollocks off of anyone, even a Brexit supporter with no grasp of reality.
OK, so we now know that the EU has confirmed what anyone with more than one brain cell knew all along, we do have sovereign powers and we have the sovereign power to revoke Article 50. Anybody in the UK, rabid leave or fanatic remainer has to agree that the whole thing is fucked up. At the very least Article 50 must be revoked and a new referendum held now we all know so much more about what the likely outcomes of the deal, no deal or remaining really are.
Yid
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Founding Member
I have been doing some serious thinking...
Yep short and possibly medium term we are gonna be fucked even if A50 is revoked. The huge tax paying foreign businesses are gone. They already have in all but name left our backward thinking country and relocated in mainland Europe.
What this does so is open up new opportunities for new business. Modern forward thinking companies who want to enter the European market.
This is all only possible under the revocation of A50 and not under any other option.
If this goes back to the public vote and we stay as part of Europe once the dust settles we could be in for a glut of new modern businesses entering the uk.
Yep short and possibly medium term we are gonna be fucked even if A50 is revoked. The huge tax paying foreign businesses are gone. They already have in all but name left our backward thinking country and relocated in mainland Europe.
What this does so is open up new opportunities for new business. Modern forward thinking companies who want to enter the European market.
This is all only possible under the revocation of A50 and not under any other option.
If this goes back to the public vote and we stay as part of Europe once the dust settles we could be in for a glut of new modern businesses entering the uk.
Motspur Hotspur
Well-Known Member
Got BBC Parliament on, what a bunch of fucking children.
Dorset
The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
It's unbelievable, theses kiddy clowns playing silly games with the future of the country.
The government was officially found in contempt of parliament, for the first time in British history. What a shower of shite we have running the country (and most of the opposition).
Yid
Moderator
Founding Member
And that my friend is the manifesto pledge I want to hear. Unilateral parliamentary reform.
Dorset
The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
Ahh, poor little Nigel, it's all got too much for him in the UK Nazi party after they appointed that disgusting thug Robinson, so he's leaving the kippers. Sadly. most of the Deldicated Followers of Facism* the evil Tommy thug is just who they want to see, he says it like they want to hear it.
Nigel started this bollocks off, appealing to the hatred and xenophobia of stupid people who hated anybody different, now it has all got a bit too nasty and not so funny he's going to fuck off and live on his small MEP pension. Fuck you Farage, fuck you very much.
* That was a 60's song by the Kinks weren't it? Maybe not.
Nigel started this bollocks off, appealing to the hatred and xenophobia of stupid people who hated anybody different, now it has all got a bit too nasty and not so funny he's going to fuck off and live on his small MEP pension. Fuck you Farage, fuck you very much.
* That was a 60's song by the Kinks weren't it? Maybe not.
Don Diaz
Zero tolerance of Numpty's
Founding Member
I mean I don't want to state the bleedin obvious but have these people only ever been seeing a white, british GP at their doctors? Never been for a Curry, Thai, Chinese meal or had a pizza delivered by Johnny Foreigner. Anyone been into a hospital recently? on a bus or a train? filled up with petrol? Called out any trades? stayed in a hotel? been through an airport? When we've kicked out, or made it difficult and uncomfortable for anyone to come to this country (not that they would want to) who is going to run the service industries in the UK. Those who want to work in this country are already doing so in most cases, those that don't mostly aren't. The thousands and thousands that have moved here and contribute in a myriad of ways to our rich and diverse multi cultural society are performing many of these jobs and paying tax doing so. Whilst often enduring poor working conditions and contracts in doing so.
The simplistic Brexit vote was £350m for the NHS and no Romanians living next door, oh and bendy bananas....... problem is they all believed it.
One other thing...... just so we know where the boundaries of racism actually lie.....who is OK for to come and stay and work here?
Aussies and French OK? Nigerians and Romanians no? Germans and South Africans OK? Sri lankans and Poles Out? Are the Spanish OK? what about Syrians, persecuted (a bit like Jews in the second world war) total ban or let a few in? I know lets have a points system - Syrian, Sri lankan, Italian, Chinese and Indian doctors and nurses are all OK, but not any of their relatives or 36 children that take all of our school places. Honestly do me a fucking favour.
Finally two other things:
1. this is the breakdown based on Ethnicity of the England and Wales population according to 2011 census and published by UK.Gov on 1st August this year:
- according to the 2011 Census, the total population of England and Wales was 56.1 million, and 86.0% of the population was White
- people from Asian ethnic groups made up the second largest percentage of the population (at 7.5%),followed by Black ethnic groups (at 3.3%),Mixed/Multiple ethnic groups (at 2.2%) and Other ethnic groups (at 1.0%)
- among the specific ethnic groups, people from the White British ethnic group made up the largest percentage of the population (at 80.5%),followed by Other White (4.4%) and Indian (2.5%)
- from 2001 to 2011, the percentage of the population of England and Wales that was White British decreased from 87.4% to 80.5%, while the Other White group saw the largest increase in their share of the population, from 2.6% to 4.4%
- the percentage of the population from a Black African background doubled from 0.9% in 2001 to 1.8% in 2011
Secondly - as mentioned earlier - Shock!! the MP's have now done what they always do. Started representing themselves and their own selfish interests, rather than the public that voted to represent them.
The most important decision for 50 years is being kicked around the playground with everyone trying to score individual points. It's an utter disgrace that should never have happened and likely would never have happened, if people had bothered to do a bit of research and check a few facts. Shame.
Dorset
The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
@Don Diaz - one of the most bizarre claims to have come from the Brexit loonies is that they are actually anti-racist because they want to be fairer to the non-EU immigrants and let them in, if of course they have doctorates in pulling pints, fruit picking, cleaning up vomit in hospitals etc. The claim that being in the EU is actually discriminatory is as bonkers as anything else they claim.
Like you said, we rely on them Euro types and every single sensible study has proved that they are nett contributors to the country. This is of course rubbished when somebody posts a video on Facebook or Twitter showing that one family of immigrants is taking the piss and abusing the benefits system - something we always have had the power to stop, then all the facists come out with their usual bollocks about how they saw it on Facebook or someone down the pub told them that 80m (Non EU) Turks are coming here for free NHS treatment - blah, blah, blah.
UKIP is now being shown to be what it always was as racist as the FLA, NF, BNP, EDL etc. and sadly that will probably attract more members, Saint Nigel will be excommunicated because he doesn't hate the rag-heads enough for their liking.
Like you said, we rely on them Euro types and every single sensible study has proved that they are nett contributors to the country. This is of course rubbished when somebody posts a video on Facebook or Twitter showing that one family of immigrants is taking the piss and abusing the benefits system - something we always have had the power to stop, then all the facists come out with their usual bollocks about how they saw it on Facebook or someone down the pub told them that 80m (Non EU) Turks are coming here for free NHS treatment - blah, blah, blah.
UKIP is now being shown to be what it always was as racist as the FLA, NF, BNP, EDL etc. and sadly that will probably attract more members, Saint Nigel will be excommunicated because he doesn't hate the rag-heads enough for their liking.