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US Election WTF???

The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

The Aussie Yid
Just watching Bernie Sanders being interviewed by Kaitlan Collins (who is as hot as hell) on CNN. I think he’d made a great President.
 
USspur

USspur

Well-Known Member
He has a lot of good points, tells it like it is especially regarding the uber wealthy, but I don't want to pay 50% of my income to taxes. Would that tax bracket be a thing? Unsure. The "free" money has to come from somewhere, though.
 
spurious

spurious

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He still speaks sense & tells it like it is.
If he was president, I'd reconsider the annexation idea.

Just kidding, of course. But the people getting shafted are the same in all countries, and have more in common with each other than with the plutocrats inserting the shaft.
 
Yid

Yid

Moderator
Founding Member
He has a lot of good points, tells it like it is especially regarding the uber wealthy, but I don't want to pay 50% of my income to taxes. Would that tax bracket be a thing? Unsure. The "free" money has to come from somewhere, though.
We have become far far too comfortable with what we want and not what is best for society...

I don't want high taxes but after the war, we built our public services with tax rates of nearly 99.25%. It was then reduced to around 90% through the 50s and 60s. In 1971 the top rate of income tax on earned income was cut to 75%.

We built transport services and infrastructure, public health services and infrastructure, educational services and infrastructure, social care services and infrastructure, social housing and did it by taxing those who could carry the burden the most.

Do I think we need to go back to that level...? Maybe not, but taxing wealth and not work would be a fucking start.

Giving breaks to those who could do with an extra £50 a month to make ends meet at the expense of taxing someone's multi million pound investment portfolio or their inheritance sounds like the right fucking choice to me.

For me we need to tighten the noose on businesses first.

Do not allow foreign business to offshore money made in this country before it gets taxed. Add a levy or additional tax if they do want to move it out. If they don't like it they can fuck off and a UK start up will replace them.

Then tax the super wealthy... Yep, the aristocracy and the generational wealth that's not been earned... And do it hard. Anyone with over 3 or 4 million quid in assets... Gets humped. Anyone making that a year... Gets humped.

They wanna leave, fuck em.
 
spurious

spurious

Well-Known Member
We have become far far too comfortable with what we want and not what is best for society...

I don't want high taxes but after the war, we built our public services with tax rates of nearly 99.25%. It was then reduced to around 90% through the 50s and 60s. In 1971 the top rate of income tax on earned income was cut to 75%.

We built transport services and infrastructure, public health services and infrastructure, educational services and infrastructure, social care services and infrastructure, social housing and did it by taxing those who could carry the burden the most.

Do I think we need to go back to that level...? Maybe not, but taxing wealth and not work would be a fucking start.

Giving breaks to those who could do with an extra £50 a month to make ends meet at the expense of taxing someone's multi million pound investment portfolio or their inheritance sounds like the right fucking choice to me.

For me we need to tighten the noose on businesses first.

Do not allow foreign business to offshore money made in this country before it gets taxed. Add a levy or additional tax if they do want to move it out. If they don't like it they can fuck off and a UK start up will replace them.

Then tax the super wealthy... Yep, the aristocracy and the generational wealth that's not been earned... And do it hard. Anyone with over 3 or 4 million quid in assets... Gets humped. Anyone making that a year... Gets humped.

They wanna leave, fuck em.
Yid, I don't always agree with you, but I always listen. And with regard to the above, I agree. I'll never be a multimillionaire, but I do alright, and the more I make, the more I have to spare. It's only right that a system that rewards some should lend a hand to those who are having a rough go.

BUT WE SHOULDN'T BE GIFTING GOALS TO THOSE FUCKING VIKINGS!
 
J.spurs

J.spurs

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
We have become far far too comfortable with what we want and not what is best for society...

I don't want high taxes but after the war, we built our public services with tax rates of nearly 99.25%. It was then reduced to around 90% through the 50s and 60s. In 1971 the top rate of income tax on earned income was cut to 75%.

We built transport services and infrastructure, public health services and infrastructure, educational services and infrastructure, social care services and infrastructure, social housing and did it by taxing those who could carry the burden the most.

Do I think we need to go back to that level...? Maybe not, but taxing wealth and not work would be a fucking start.

Giving breaks to those who could do with an extra £50 a month to make ends meet at the expense of taxing someone's multi million pound investment portfolio or their inheritance sounds like the right fucking choice to me.

For me we need to tighten the noose on businesses first.

Do not allow foreign business to offshore money made in this country before it gets taxed. Add a levy or additional tax if they do want to move it out. If they don't like it they can fuck off and a UK start up will replace them.

Then tax the super wealthy... Yep, the aristocracy and the generational wealth that's not been earned... And do it hard. Anyone with over 3 or 4 million quid in assets... Gets humped. Anyone making that a year... Gets humped.

They wanna leave, fuck em.
It was pretty much the same in this country. Trump is a cretin who may kill us all but in terms of damage done, he's got a way to go before he catches up with Reagan, Thatcher and their ilk.
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

The Aussie Yid
In an even more stunning result than expected the Albanese Labor Government has destroyed the conservatives here in Australia today. The damage to the whackjob right wing here may be irreparable.
 
USspur

USspur

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I would love for the extreme right to go away everywhere.
 
Yid

Yid

Moderator
Founding Member
In an even more stunning result than expected the Albanese Labor Government has destroyed the conservatives here in Australia today. The damage to the whackjob right wing here may be irreparable.
Love that mate...

We've just had a local election/council election thing almost across the whole country and our conservatives have been fucked dry... By an even more right wing group who use immigration as a weapon against the masses.
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

The Aussie Yid
Love that mate...

We've just had a local election/council election thing almost across the whole country and our conservatives have been fucked dry... By an even more right wing group who use immigration as a weapon against the masses.

This is a generational result here and gives this government the single biggest election majority in 80 years. It’s an astonishing result. This virtually guarantees the Labor Party another two terms at least and a huge mandate to roll out everything they want to do.
 
J.spurs

J.spurs

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
He still speaks sense & tells it like it is.
100%. That's why it's so unfortunate that he's 84 (and has had heart problems in the past.) There are some others in a good position to take up his mantle, but unfortunately there are also many who still think the way to power is to coopt idiotic rightwing positions, especially cultural ones. Playing to the mythical "moderate" voter rather than recognizing the opportunity this crisis presents to mobilize a new coalition for the future.

But this is, IMO down to many who follow our national media in assuming Trump's policies, right or wrong, are being done in good faith, like it's politics as usual. Whether its tariffs, anti-immigrant shit, cutting off funding already allocated by Congress, It's always reported for its political effect rather than the legality/morality/general stupidity of it. People like Bernie and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are calling it for what it is, and they're being treated as if they're just the left equivalent of the maniacs and kleptocrats that are looting the federal government and shredding the rule of law.
 
Yid

Yid

Moderator
Founding Member
The targeting if AOC is akin to a domestic terrorist... I can't believe some of the reporting on her gets to air, it's truly shocking, when all she is doing is calling the administration on their lies and bullshit on behalf of the people.

AOC is the future of that party...
 
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