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the scariest/worst outcome at some future point will be that ENIC trouser £2-3billion, but as part of the deal Levy stays as CEO with a small shareholding and in charge of the running of the club and stadium. In which case it's low ball transfers Adele concerts and the World final of Strictly for as long as we can see into the futureGet him to buy the fucking club... imagine that type of ownership. That would give Citeh a serious run for their money.
Stop it you`re talking sense !!the scariest/worst outcome at some future point will be that ENIC trouser £2-3billion, but as part of the deal Levy stays as CEO with a small shareholding and in charge of the running of the club and stadium. In which case it's low ball transfers Adele concerts and the World final of Strictly for as long as we can see into the future
Let’s just hope that we’re all wrong, I’d be really happy for that to be the case.Stop it you`re talking sense !!
Whatever his business acumen,he is as good at football as was alan sugar.One league cup in 20 years of ownership,I dont get the love for him because of balance sheets and revenue.He built an over budget and late stadium,praise for hiring Poch and redknapp??lets not forget his lucky run began when fat jacques waddled out and Jol took over,and then "et tu Brutus",AVB,Sherwood,Ramos,even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes,we were blessed with Poch and how he circumvented Levy for 4 years,now we`re at the mercy of a monster,deep in debt,under invested in the team,massive disconnect with the supporters,sorry "clients",I dont see how he could have fucked it up much more in 20 years,1 trophy and over £600m in the hole,and he and his tax exile buddy stand to pocket over a billion in profit at the clubs expense.
It will almost certainly be the case unfortunately.Let’s just hope that we’re all wrong, I’d be really happy for that to be the case.
It will almost certainly be the case unfortunately.
The gap between us and City & Liverpool is now huge. Utd will reinvest and get better, so will Chelsea. Then you have the likes of Wolves and Everton with good managers and ambitions. Then there's us...with a manager who's still coaching football from 10 years ago and a chairman who thinks success means " More in the pocket".
I think it's going to be a long road back folks.
There comes a point when we have to stop saying this.... it's been the case for the last decade at least...As for the transfers,, I'd give Mourinho & Levy this next one BUT it may be one of the most important ones in recent history.
I appreciate your point, but the question is, how much leeway does Levy deserve ? What every club is going through at the moment is unprecedented, but this guy has been out for himself since day one, so I wont be giving Levy any more chances.I'm not going to disagree with you Dave as you may be right but when we all come out of this CV19 crisis, it will be a very different sporting landscape. Some clubs in big leagues are in or will be in significant financial distress The timing of our stadium build would be enough to crush any other clubs but we actually have Levy. In this regard, we may be in better hands.
As for the transfers,, I'd give Mourinho & Levy this next one BUT it may be one of the most important ones in recent history.
I agree, but £100k a week? Nah, mate, even a tenth of that would be too much for kicking a ball around. Bring it down to a grand a week, with appearance bonuses, win bonuses, make the cunts work for their money.I appreciate your point, but the question is, how much leeway does Levy deserve ? What every club is going through at the moment is unprecedented, but this guy has been out for himself since day one, so I wont be giving Levy any more chances.
Regarding the clubs being in trouble, maybe this is the excuse everyone needs to really look at the obscene salaries these guys are on ? Why not take the opportunity to look at a world wide cap of €100k a week ? And give back to the fans by lowering pricing across the board. It would bring the clubs and the fans closer and be better for it.
I dont feel sorry for any big clubs that may be in trouble. I feel sorry for the lower league and non league clubs and the players who bust their gut for €500 a week and the staff and volunteers of those clubs
Anyway, I've gone off the point a bit, so to sum up, I'll give Mourinho a window to get his shit together and prove he's the right man (which he isnt imo) but regards Levy ? I want him out.....
I have a theory about how it all went right for 3 or 4 years.I think Levy is going to look like a right knobhead soon. Pochettino goes to Newcastle, Vertonghen heads there to. Poch gets them beyond mid table after 1 season. Next season he gets a few quid to buy some talent. Pochettinos Newcastle head into the top 4 at Tottenham's expense.
Pochettino reveals he only ever asked Levy to buy 80 mil worth of players to compete.
I have a theory about how it all went right for 3 or 4 years.
With the preparation and day to day building of the stadium,Levy`s time was so consumed with the build and counting his sheckles that after Poch`s 1st year,Levy took a step back and allowed a football person to run the football.Poch became manager not coach,he was seemingly involved in contract extensions (remember all the photos,arm around),perhaps not so much transfers??and Levy could spend his time going to travis perkins ordering sand and cement,choosing tiles,bathroom fittings.I doubt Levy had much personal or physical contact with the team during that period,poch was free to talk to them and motivate them.
Then as the stadium drew close to opening,Levy no longer had his days full,and reverted to type,sticking his nose in and rocking the boat.Poch drew back,making comments like when Sissoko`s deal was extended,"I dont know I am not involved in signings and contracts,a complete 180 on what he was saying the 3 years before.Eriksen and rose were fucked off told they werent wanted and played like that from then on,I seriously dont think that was pochettino,and also he was making clear he was back to coach with no say on such matters.
And there you have it,an investment property speculator thinking he knew better than a seasoned lifetime football professional,fucked poch off,fucked some of the squad off (i am not talking sacked or transefered at that point),As I say it`s only a theory,but the evidence holds up pretty well to me at least.
Same as Alan Sugar,he actually thought when players were injured they didnt get paid,and when he sacked ossie&stevie p.he didnt realise he had to pay up their contracts.Its fine being a genius in one field,but are their egos really so massive they think they can just turn their hand to anything?One fault all mega rich geniuses seem to have in common,is an inability to talk and deal with others in a decent normal way,if you have money everything becomes master&servant and they justify it because in their life its all about money,relationships,motivation and aspiration are not guided by merely being bought off, to just do what you are told because you are being paid to just do what you are told.Yep sound valid to me. People like Levy who have the authority and brunt he has quite often think they know more than everyone else. It'll bite him in the ass next couple of seasons same as what United went through. I know heaps of people who simply stopped watching Mourinhos United. We will be hit the same. Shame really we looked like we were really creating something. Ah well.
Just to be clear, I'm not supporting Levy or JM here. I'm just giving them a chance with the next window. Will Levy back JM? If he doesn't, it will all go very dark very quickly. I trust JM in knowing what he needs in terms of structure / formation, (ie anyone can see we need a DM) but I'm wary of his ability to choose the right player.
As for the stadium & CV19: Levy cares about money &, even moreso, his money. There's plenty of it invested in the stadium. I'm just saying, with his accounting ability coupled with his demeanor re profits & penny pinching, we are in better hands than other clubs would be given these same circumstances. This is Levy's realm. Not football.
Would I love Bezos & Amazon to buy Spurs? Certainly. At least Bezos knows how to oversee things & surround himself with knowledgeable people in each field. Then delegate. Levy requires a different hands on control.
Your right Levy is a good man to have in charge in a crisis like this. Problem is Levy has always been used to having the shady shit he does in the shadow of the football. He low balls someone, next day we play a game etc. At the minute everything he does is sitting proud. He'll get us through no doubt but so far it's been far from pretty. Turn around in Furlough is the first time I think he has realised he's fucked up monumentally.
Jose on the other hand. He's a dinosaur in football terms and a wanker in every other aspect. This one from Levy I'll never get over.
From what (very) little I know and hear this is spot on.You deal with people in good faith. It maintains your integrity.
One aspect of Levy's dealings I dislike is he seemingly agrees & closes a deal but just before pen is put to paper, he moves the goalposts. Less & less people will want to deal with him. &/or will make it more difficult for him in the future which doesn't bode well for the club. Could be why we miss out so often.
Yup I almost word for word wrote the same thing.... and then thought taking the piss would be a much better option...From what (very) little I know and hear this is spot on.
Yeah Levy is always good and an easy cheap shot for the media to fill some column inches when they need. He deserves the shit he gets - he brings it on himself with the way he behaves and also because he also can't help enjoying the spotlight when there's any praise floating about.Yup I almost word for word wrote the same thing.... and then thought taking the piss would be a much better option...
Aside from Mike Ashley what other chairman do you hear about? Maybe Roman because he is a crooked oligarch. Maybe the Glazers.... because they are absolute cornbeef faced imbeciels. Mayne the scrums fella becuse he is singlehandedly screwing them over, cant remember his name though..... I dont know of any others