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Style And Glory

Style And Glory

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From Nagelsmann:

Speaking to the Telegraph in 2021, he insisted that entertaining fans was a No. 1 priority, saying: "Winning is what matters and winning is entertaining.

“I never want to change my offensive and attacking football because I love it and I love it when the fans have an emotional time in the stadium. So I will not change this. But if there is a time when I cannot win like this then I will have to change.”

I'm sold.
 
Yid

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Part of me wants whoever comes in, to prove hook nose wrong and immediately unleash the side into free flowing attacking football...
I don't care if we conced 6 if we score 7 or 8...

We can work on the defensive part over the summer... we have the attacking players here ready to fucking go... set them fucking free.

Please just entertain me.
 
J.spurs

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Part of me wants whoever comes in, to prove hook nose wrong and immediately unleash the side into free flowing attacking football...
I don't care if we conced 6 if we score 7 or 8...

We can work on the defensive part over the summer... we have the attacking players here ready to fucking go... set them fucking free.

Please just entertain me.
Exactly. And you know, sometimes you don't have to choose between the two. Wasn't that long ago that we were one of the top defensive teams in England, maybe even in Europe, without sacrificing anything going forward.
 
ClemFandango

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Saw this on the Twitter and it made me laugh..

Not saying we are taking our time sacking Conte but since that press conference the clocks have gone forward, Roy Hodgson has come out of retirement, Lance Reddick has died & starred in John Wick 4, Kane broke the England record and Bayern have sacked and hired a manager, fuck me

We sacked Poch on a Tuesday back in 2019 and the Cunt was moving in to his office 48 hours later so it's not like it can't be done.
 
ClemFandango

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Well then. Conte is expected back at Hotspur Way on Tuesday.

 
Dave

Dave

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Well then. Conte is expected back at Hotspur Way on Tuesday.

Why ??
The players don't want him, he doesn't want to be there, the atmosphere is toxic and the majority of fans want an end to this now.
What the fuck good is it for anyone involved for this to drag on for a day longer ? Honest ta fuck, we're a laughing stock. Great stadium, great training facilities but couldn't organise a fire in a match factory.
 
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ClemFandango

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He's gone. Left by "mutual consent". Stellini in charge for the rest of the season with Mason as his assistant.

We can announce that Head Coach Antonio Conte has left the Club by mutual agreement. We achieved Champions League qualification in Antonio’s first season at the Club. We thank Antonio for his contribution and wish him well for the future.

Cristian Stellini will take the team as Acting Head Coach for the remainder of the season, along with Ryan Mason as Assistant Head Coach.

 
J.spurs

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I bet it’s been in negotiations for some time now. Not sure how I feel about Stellini in charge for the home stretch, but good to close the books on Tony for all the reasons we’ve spent months talking about now.
 
The Cryptkeeper

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I bet it’s been in negotiations for some time now. Not sure how I feel about Stellini in charge for the home stretch, but good to close the books on Tony for all the reasons we’ve spent months talking about now.

It probably says that Stellini and Conte are not as close as many of us thought.

I also suspect that it is a bit of Levy having an each way bet in the hope that Stellini can preserve our CL spot.
 
Yid

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I like this new slant on Levy lining up fall guys... caretaker managers, no one gives a fuck about, who can be dropped like a shitty stick as soon as some other gullible fuck is found...

That sly old cunt...
 
ClemFandango

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Apparently Conte “gave his blessing” for Stellini to remain for the rest of the season.

There’s also been some talk that Ancelloti might be leaving Real Madrid at the end of the season to take over as Brazil’s national team manager so with Nagelsmann and Poch both available, it’ll be interesting to see how Levy can screw that up because you know he will.
 
Dave

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This club is an embarrassment.

Another "big name" manager failed. Is it all of them ? Or is it us ?
It's definitely us...led by Levy who has made this club a laughing stock because of his insistence on bringing the suits in to recruit and undermine the managers. The same bloke that builds a ridiculously plush training facility and great academy, yet we've nothing coming through.
The heart says Poch but the head says someone else. Because I don't want Poch's legacy to be wiped out by Levy and it would unless he backs him to run on field matters and gets rid of the so called recruitment experts in suits saying "Yes Mr Levy" regardless....

We need a fresh start in many ways and it may require us to go backwards for a season or 2 before we get going again but I'd be all for it if the football was better, the focus and determination of the players was better and they fucking entertain me.

As for Kane, Son and others....GO..Go now. Win something. You owe us nothing. Levy owes us everything. And if he wanted to say sorry, just get out of the club and that would do.
 
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Poch - Done
That Cunt - Done
Folded Arms Guy - Done
Cunté - Done

All since Nov 2019...

Levy... the financial and footballing genius.
 
USspur

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honestly, im so checked out i don't care until really enic / levy are fucking gone
 
J.spurs

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Poch - Done
That Cunt - Done
Folded Arms Guy - Done
Cunté - Done

All since Nov 2019...

Levy... the financial and footballing genius.
Remember when he had the reputation of a shrewd wheeler-dealer? “You just got Levy’d” and all that? Now becoming a laughing stock of sorts.
 
Glenjamin

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One thing with Stellini is he has been with Conte for so long does he even have his own mark to put on the team. Only thing he really knows is Conte ball.
 
Yid

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One thing with Stellini is he has been with Conte for so long does he even have his own mark to put on the team. Only thing he really knows is Conte ball.
I agree, this could be a fucking car crash...

Players must be talking to their agents right now... for 80% of them, I'm cool with that, but the handful of ballers we have, we need to keep them.

A new manager would give the side a bounce that might mean picking up points to get in the CL... getting in the CL might mean better Players wanting to come to us in the summer... a new face now would mean that there would be a full pre season of training as a unit and a good few months to embed a new philosephy/style of play on the side...

This... just means none of that has any chance of happening and therfore whoever does come in, will yet again have a much tougher job...

It's obvious that whoever we are after is currently in a job... not someone who is available now.
 
ClemFandango

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Some interesting bits and pieces coming out this morning.

1) He made the players run 2km before each match.

2) He called a team meeting and he left when the last player arrived, telling them to find their own solution to their poor form.

3) After the away defeat to Sporting Lisbon, he brought forward the 2pm training session to 11am. The team didn't arrive back in London until the early hours of that particular morning so it was apparently not well received.

Obviously no way of knowing if any of this is true but if you consider the number of "thanks boss, all the best" messages or tweets from the players then I'd say there's at least some mileage in the claims.

(Clue: It's zero. No messages of thanks at all)
 
Yid

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Is it our players... is the club/dressing room/board room/atmosphere so toxic that no manager could overcome it and all are doomed to fail until someone rips out the infected parts and rebuilds it...?

It is a few gaffers in now and the same problems keep happening...

Maybe we've got to stop looking at the managers, proven serial winning managers (folded arms guy aside obvs),who have all succumbed to the same fate in a very short space of time.

We know the board room is run by the deranged pipsqueek... so there's one avenue of change...

Theres obviously no talent coming through the development squads... there's another.

Players are looking overdue a serious refresh... there's another...

I'm not defending Conté his football was utter muck... but its not just him, we're 4 or 5 managers down... 4 or 5 top tier managers down...
 
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spurious

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Some interesting bits and pieces coming out this morning.

1) He made the players run 2km before each match.

2) He called a team meeting and he left when the last player arrived, telling them to find their own solution to their poor form.

3) After the away defeat to Sporting Lisbon, he brought forward the 2pm training session to 11am. The team didn't arrive back in London until the early hours of that particular morning so it was apparently not well received.

Obviously no way of knowing if any of this is true but if you consider the number of "thanks boss, all the best" messages or tweets from the players then I'd say there's at least some mileage in the claims.

(Clue: It's zero. No messages of thanks at all)
This sounds like bullshit to me. Not questioning your source, but it's the kind of thing people say because it sounds interesting, and then it bwcomes the truth after a few repetitions.

But...all of that sounds entirely reasonable to me. Athletes being forced to run? Sometimes even in the (late) morning? Asking for in-squad leadership rather than abunch of fucking meerkats waiting for direction?

The man was a train wreck, and I'm glad he's gone, but if the above are the reasons the players were unhappy, his rant was on the mark.
 
Havocc

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Not acting now is a risk, in the summer Poch may end up at Madrid and Nagelsmann at Chelsea…..
 
J.spurs

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This sounds like bullshit to me. Not questioning your source, but it's the kind of thing people say because it sounds interesting, and then it bwcomes the truth after a few repetitions.

But...all of that sounds entirely reasonable to me. Athletes being forced to run? Sometimes even in the (late) morning? Asking for in-squad leadership rather than abunch of fucking meerkats waiting for direction?

The man was a train wreck, and I'm glad he's gone, but if the above are the reasons the players were unhappy, his rant was on the mark.
Depending on the timing, running 2 km before a Premier League match would be very stupid no matter how much money the players are on.

Like any workforce, it's the manager's job to manage. He clearly wasn't doing a very good job of that. You may be right, however, that these anecdotes fit a certain narrative, and as a result are a little suspect.If the players are a bit spoiled, so was Conte, who has thrown his toys out more than a few times.

Anyway, he's gone now, and it will be interesting to say the least to see whether his pal Stellini is capable of managing the aftermath.
 
Yid

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This sounds like bullshit to me. Not questioning your source, but it's the kind of thing people say because it sounds interesting, and then it bwcomes the truth after a few repetitions.

But...all of that sounds entirely reasonable to me. Athletes being forced to run? Sometimes even in the (late) morning? Asking for in-squad leadership rather than abunch of fucking meerkats waiting for direction?

The man was a train wreck, and I'm glad he's gone, but if the above are the reasons the players were unhappy, his rant was on the mark.
And thats what posed me to write my comments above yours... 2k before a game... thats a tidy warm up... training the day after a game in the early PM... after having the morning off... again reasonable... asking them to take responsibility for their performances... to try and take a look within... Arguably good management...

Maybe the players/board/chairman/tea lady/kit man/philosophy of the club is rancid and not fit for competing at this level anymore...

Like I said 4 or 5 managers have failed while all else remained constant...

It all needs to change if we don't want to keep doing the same thing.
 
J.spurs

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Obviously we're not going to compete long term with the Manchester clubs, probably Newcastle, Chelsea, etc., without new investment. We are competing with teams that spend more than we do in the transfer market, and pay better wages. But we've seen that clubs that have a structure and a plan, and a manager to implement it, can over perform. We need a youngish manager that doesn't think he's too good for the club--this concerns me about Nagelsmann--and that is given time and reasonable resources to build something.

Personally, I'd be very patient with a manager if I thought he had a vision, and if he played football that didn't make me want to gouge my eyes out. Some rejuvenation seems to be needed at the youth levels, too--we are not producing many young players who can cut it at the PL.
 
spurious

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Totally agree. I like winning games, I like big signings, but I'm not sure it excited me more than a kid from the academy getting his first goal, or laying out an opposing superstar.
 
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