Equine Pugilists vs THFC Sun 1st Sep

[BrooklynYid]

Here are my two main issues with Ange ball. The first is that it's unwavering. Sometimes you need to mix it up. If Pep and Ancelloti can do it, so can Ange. And the second, I love the hight line. I do. But ... it's TOO DAMN HIGH sometimes. Another 2 yards back and we could feel all nice an snug. At times it does look a bit mental. I think little nuanced changes could have a bit impact on results. Anyway, I hate losing to those fucks, so I'm a bit pissy.

 

[Style And Glory]

We had no striker and the writing was on the wall. I didn't suggest closing up shop, just protect what you have.
IF is a big if, we had a point and threw it away due to a ridiculous high line.

Where was this "writing"?
We were dominating & far more threatening.
Are you suggesting that we should have simply played keep away after we scored?

"IF is a big if."
It's the same "IF" as last season.
We risked it & won.
Where were you when we were winning those games late on by exhibiting the same attacking principles?
That mindset got us as high up the table as we did.
Otherwise, we would have been 8th or 9th.
That's the alternative to protecting a point.
Address that?

 

[Strikegold]

Where was this "writing"?
We were dominating & far more threatening.
Are you suggesting that we should have simply played keep away after we scored?

"IF is a big if."
It's the same "IF" as last season.
We risked it & won.
Where were you when we were winning those games late on by exhibiting the same attacking principles?
That mindset got us as high up the table as we did.
Otherwise, we would have been 8th or 9th.
That's the alternative to protecting a point.
Address that?
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We did have last gasp wins but perhaps should not have been in that situation but for poor defending in the first place. It's not a strategy.

 

[Strikegold]

Here are my two main issues with Ange ball. The first is that it's unwavering. Sometimes you need to mix it up. If Pep and Ancelloti can do it, so can Ange. And the second, I love the hight line. I do. But ... it's TOO DAMN HIGH sometimes. Another 2 yards back and we could feel all nice an snug. At times it does look a bit mental. I think little nuanced changes could have a bit impact on results. Anyway, I hate losing to those fucks, so I'm a bit pissy.

Ange has been known to subtly change things fairly late on to protect a lead. Usually bringing on a more defensive minded MF. But on this occasion decided not to protect the draw.

 

[Strikegold]

Where was this "writing"?
We were dominating & far more threatening.
Are you suggesting that we should have simply played keep away after we scored?

"IF is a big if."
It's the same "IF" as last season.
We risked it & won.
Where were you when we were winning those games late on by exhibiting the same attacking principles?
That mindset got us as high up the table as we did.
Otherwise, we would have been 8th or 9th.
That's the alternative to protecting a point.
Address that?

4 points from 9 against poor opposition.

 

[Style And Glory]

@Strikegold
Whatever. You know better than Ange.
I raise my glass.
FFS.

 

[Strikegold]

@Strikegold
Whatever. You know better than Ange.
I raise my glass.
FFS.

It's not about me FFS, it's about Ange knowing less than other PL or top flight managers.

 

[Strikegold]

Keeping in mind we had no striker effectively. Would you have started with Johnson rather than Sarr ?

 

[Havocc]

Keeping in mind we had no striker effectively. Would you have started with Johnson rather than Sarr ?

No, because I would have assumed Newcastle would play with more skill and aggression. So I would considered we would need someone with high energy who can battle in the midfield.

This did not happened because we did not allow Newcastle to play this way, except for the first 15 minutes. Once Ange realised we were much, much better then them, he made the right changes.

 

[USspur]

I haven’t had to put anyone on my ignore list, but now I have. Interestingly, it was a new member. Perhaps we need to vet everyone coming to the site to lurk and post. Maybe make it strictly controlled, like guernsey

 

[Strikegold]

Yes, because I would have assumed Newcastle would play with more skill and aggression. So I would considered we would need someone with high energy who can battle in the midfield.

This did not happened because we did not allow Newcastle to play this way, except for the first 15 minutes. Once Ange realised we were much, much better then them, he made the right changes.

Is that a no rather than a yes ?

 

[Strikegold]

I haven’t had to put anyone on my ignore list, but now I have. Interestingly, it was a new member. Perhaps we need to vet everyone coming to the site to lurk and post. Maybe make it strictly controlled, like guernsey

To ignore is to run and hide, weak mentality.

 

[Havocc]

Is that a no rather than a yes ?

Thanks, typo in my original post! No, I would not have started Johnson over Sarr.

 

[Dave]

To ignore is to run and hide, weak mentality.

Did you used to shout alot at a fella called Private Pyle in the late eighties by any chance ?

 

[DMackay]

Here are my two main issues with Ange ball. The first is that it's unwavering. Sometimes you need to mix it up. If Pep and Ancelloti can do it, so can Ange. And the second, I love the hight line. I do. But ... it's TOO DAMN HIGH sometimes. Another 2 yards back and we could feel all nice an snug. At times it does look a bit mental. I think little nuanced changes could have a bit impact on results. Anyway, I hate losing to those fucks, so I'm a bit pissy.

I’m not keen on them either as my nephew is a huge Toon fan despite me trying to steer him our way so I got major stick yesterday!

Agree with your point about the high line
Too chaotic especially with the defence that we have

 

[DMackay]

Did you used to shout alot at a fella called Private Pyle in the late eighties by any chance ?

Sgt Hartman once said to him
“Private Pile you are so goddam ugly you could be a monument to modern art “

Loved that film especially at the drill camp!

 

[Strikegold]

Thanks, typo in my original post! No, I would not have started Johnson over Sarr.

I would have started Johnson over Odibor and Johnson made a pretty much instant impact.

 

[Strikegold]

I’m not keen on them either as my nephew is a huge Toon fan despite me trying to steer him our way so I got major stick yesterday!

Agree with your point about the high line
Too chaotic especially with the defence that we have

We've been sussed out actually long ago. Hopefully Ange has a plan !!

 

[Strikegold]

We have won only 2 out of out last 12 away games. We struggle to break down defences but are too easy to break down ourselves. Not a good recipe.

 

[Havocc]

We've been sussed out actually long ago. Hopefully Ange has a plan !!

Well that is part of a managers job, sussing out the oppositions tactics and finding a way to beat it.

A low block and a counter is very effective against us, but then teams will set up like this against the bigger teams. Our tactic to beat this is a high press and keep possession.

I am sure he has a plan, he showed in games season he could play with a false nine, midfield box, high/low full backs. Even 4-4-2 with 2 strikers up top.

 

[Havocc]

We have won only 2 out of out last 12 away games. We struggle to break down defences but are too easy to break down ourselves. Not a good recipe.

Great stat to point out mate! That is worrying, but then how many of those were playing with our makeshift back line when players were injured, suspended or away at international tournaments.

 

[Havocc]

Watched the highlights and free with this:

The last goal of Newcastle wasn't Romero's fault.

He's setting the line very high and everyone sould see him as a point of reference.

Dragusin is too worried about the runners and leave too early the line, keeping everyone onside.

 

[Strikegold]

Watched the highlights and free with this:

The last goal of Newcastle wasn't Romero's fault.

He's setting the line very high and everyone sould see him as a point of reference.

Dragusin is too worried about the runners and leave too early the line, keeping everyone onside.

Fair point, my point is....the ultra high line makes our defence vulnerable.
Ange by the way thought Drag had a good game !!

 

[DMackay]

Watched the highlights and free with this:

The last goal of Newcastle wasn't Romero's fault.

He's setting the line very high and everyone sould see him as a point of reference.

Dragusin is too worried about the runners and leave too early the line, keeping everyone onside.

I get what you’re saying but at the time of the forward pass Cuti was standing square on instead of sideways so he was never going to get back in time!
Not that he bothered trying!

 

[DMackay]

Fair point, my point is....the ultra high line makes our defence vulnerable.
Ange by the way thought Drag had a good game !!

Drag made mistakes like everyone else but I also thought that he had a good game and I love his passion!

 

[Strikegold]

Drag made mistakes like everyone else but I also thought that he had a good game and I love his passion!

If it's true Drag broke the line and caused the winning goal , it's hardly a good game ? I haven't checked the video.

 

[DMackay]

If it's true Drag broke the line and caused the winning goal , it's hardly a good game ? I haven't checked the video.

You can make one mistake and still have a good game!
Cuti was standing square on when the pass went through
Basic mistake so no chance of recovery especially especially against their pace

Don’t get me wrong I like Cuti but he’s a long way from the finished product and has had a poor start to the season

Something for Ange to work on

 

[Strikegold]

You can make one mistake and still have a good game!
Cuti was standing square on when the pass went through
Basic mistake so no chance of recovery especially especially against their pace

Don’t get me wrong I like Cuti but he’s a long way from the finished product and has had a poor start to the season

Something for Ange to work on

One mistake leading to us losing the game kind of wipes out any good.
Ange has had long enough to instill discipline in defence and high line. It was his main goal from the start, to get the players bought in to his philosophy.
I have never gone overboard on Romero. He did settle down a bit with the vice captaincy I think. He has probably impressed me and pissed me off in equal measure so far. I do like his goal threat from corners which looks like it's been worked on this season.

 

[DMackay]

One mistake leading to us losing the game kind of wipes out any good.
Ange has had long enough to instill discipline in defence and high line. It was his main goal from the start, to get the players bought in to his philosophy.
I have never gone overboard on Romero. He did settle down a bit with the vice captaincy I think. He has probably impressed me and pissed me off in equal measure so far. I do like his goal threat from corners which looks like it's been worked on this season.

Sorry I can’t agree with that about Drags
He had a good game overall and will progress from this with more game time

You could also argue that Kulu Wilson etc and our attack cost us the game with the amount of chances they missed

 

[Havocc]

Funny, I don’t think Ange has even reached 50 games as a Spurs manager. Which is ridiculous considering the massive changes made in the squad and the our playing style.