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Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
I don't think there has ever been an argument where in my mind Brexit has ever been made to sound progressive...

I honestly and truthfully gave it a chance, I tried to see from any angle where there would be a benefit for the UK in leaving Europe... I even tried to be a selfish cunt and see how I could exploit it and make myself enough money to fuck off and leave all those left to suffer the brexit benefits.

I am still here, enjoying all the benefits the Tories have given us.

But to get to your point... the argument that Europe is trying to create a United States of Europe and take power away from the UK government...

I could be flippant and just say "good, they're a bunch of useless cunts anyway", but that would be too easy.

The deal we had with Europe was phenomenal. It was the only stage worldwide where we had one of the top seats and where we could influence our future on a global level.

We now don't have that.

We now have deals with Australia and Japan and we actually have to compete with Europe when making trade deals...

There has been nothing so far that has been close to being described as a benefit in my eyes. Things cost more and take way longer to be imported or exported, threats of legal action over Covid Vaccines, the Boarder between Ireland causing another civil war, the home nations wanting to ditch the UK and get back into Europe claiming their independence...

Can anyone actually name a benefit from the UK leaving Europe.








Let's see how long it takes for immigration to be mentioned...
OK, I'll mention immigration! Immigration from the UK to the 27 countries has been totally kyboshed by Brexit, I suppose that would be emigration from where you're sitting.
 
Sneeky

Sneeky

VARNA SANKARA
Not going near the brexit rumble but what gets me is how government officials can openly spout confidential conversations with no recourse…didn’t they sign the secrecy act?
 
Yid

Yid

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
I don't think there has ever been an argument where in my mind Brexit has ever been made to sound progressive...

I honestly and truthfully gave it a chance, I tried to see from any angle where there would be a benefit for the UK in leaving Europe... I even tried to be a selfish cunt and see how I could exploit it and make myself enough money to fuck off and leave all those left to suffer the brexit benefits.

I am still here, enjoying all the benefits the Tories have given us.

But to get to your point... the argument that Europe is trying to create a United States of Europe and take power away from the UK government...

I could be flippant and just say "good, they're a bunch of useless cunts anyway", but that would be too easy.

The deal we had with Europe was phenomenal. It was the only stage worldwide where we had one of the top seats and where we could influence our future on a global level.

We now don't have that.

We now have deals with Australia and Japan and we actually have to compete with Europe when making trade deals...

There has been nothing so far that has been close to being described as a benefit in my eyes. Things cost more and take way longer to be imported of exported, threats of legal action over Covie Vaccines, the Boarder between Ireland causing another civil war, the home nations wanting to ditch the UK and get back into Europe claiming their independence...

Can anyone actually name a benefit from the UK leaving Europe.








Let's see how long it takes for immigration to be mentioned.
Not going near the brexit rumble but what gets me is how government officials can openly spout confidential conversations with no recourse…didn’t they sign the secrecy act?
Directly employed... or on a consultancy basis to work round the pay scale and bonus limitations...

Can't see Cummins or any of the other "expert" Gvt advisors being happy with a £25 "love to shop" voucher for all their hard work at the end of the year...
 
Yid

Yid

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
I'll play along... If were talking about our power to change things. Firstly, things in this country... I begin to be confused...!

A website called Google says...
English law refers to the legal system administered by the courts in England and Wales, which rule on both civil and criminal matters. English law is based on the principles of common law. English law can be described as having its own legal doctrine, distinct from civil law legal systems since 1189.
So this means we have controll of our own laws and have done since the 12th century.

Why did we need to leave Europe to change them...?

If were talking about changing things in Europe and the European laws that have an effect on us... I'm doubly confused...

As a key member of the European Union our vote on matters and our overall influence was significant.. I believe we had around 30 MEP's not sure if that's inclusive of other home nations delegates... as one of the founding member states I believe we enjoyed other significant benefits, not only very favourable terms on trade deals...

After being brexited...

We have zer-fucking-ro of that influence or benefits... nada, zip, zilch.

So as opposed to "taking controll", we've actually given it up?

But the benefit is that we will get £350 million quid every week to build new schools and hospitals... and that these evil Romanian terrorists that will be stealing your jobs, wives, pints, houses, children's teeth etc will no way Pedro be alowed into this country and all those pesky spouse stealing foreign Johnny's will be loaded onto boats and shipped back off to their war torn back water country to cause havoc and smoke shisha pipes all day long.

I may have become a sarky cunt midway through that post...
 
Don Diaz

Don Diaz

Zero tolerance of Numpty's
Founding Member
I find some of the other non football debate far more interesting, thought provoking and rewarding than anything to do with Spurs at the moment.
 
Yid

Yid

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
I find some of the other non football debate far more interesting, thought provoking and rewarding than anything to do with Spurs at the moment.
I agree mate... its a good distraction from the circus that's happening in North London at the moment.
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
I find some of the other non football debate far more interesting, thought provoking and rewarding than anything to do with Spurs at the moment.
I was reminded how fucking awful we were last season - I watched England play last night and kept forgetting it was the national team not Spurs and I didn't even get a bit angry, I just thought 'oh well, it's fucking Levy innit?'. Very unfair blaming Levy but I blame that cunt and the lying Tory cunts who are trying to justify the destruction of the country they brought about with Brexit by lying about trade deals with Australia that will destroy British farming - yeah, I blame those cunts for everything, especially Levy.
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
Everyone here in Spain and the rest of the civilised world are looking on in horror at the what the UK has become. Freedom Day will turn the UK into a petri dish for virus mutations that could become vaccine resistant, already the wonderful Bojo AZ vaccine is proving to be a fucking dud - and that's the one I have had. The evil nazi bitch Patel is talking about setting up offshore concentration camps for asylum seekers, the just passed Police and Justice Bill will make any protests illegal if they are not to the liking of the bitch Home Secretary. The new Health Secretary is a fucking ex-banker whose only interest is money - he has predicted 100,000 new cases per fucking day and the so-called PM says now is the time to scrap all the anti-Covid measures. 37 people died today from Covid and that cunt professor Whitty just says that only the vaccine rollout will stop more cases and it will be better for the NHS if people die in the summer than the winter, fuck all about how mask wearing and social distancing could reduce those deaths and infections massively. Long Covid which is fucking up the lives of 100s of thousands of people is totally ignored because those evil Tory cunts spin everything around to death tolls. Again the new so-called health Secretary says that Covid is now like flu, what a total cunt, I have had flu and I recovered in a week or two without permanent organ damage or life altering effects. Patel is threatening the rest of the world with visa restrictions if they don't allow her to break international law and send back asylum seekers. Brexit is fucking the country up the arse and the Tories are blaming Covid - they are talking about bringing in the fucking army to drive lorries because they have driven the EU citizens home. The sleaze and corruption of Tory ministers is running rampant, contracts for mates and donors, fuck all scrutiny and they are bringing in bills to restrict the powers of the judiciary in what they call 'political matters' , I call it thieving. The totally undemocratic FPTP system is going to become even less democratic because they are bringing in voter ID laws to stop young, black, poor people voting on the pretence that voter fraud exists. All the while that lying cunt swans around the country replying 'vaccine rollout' to every question he is asked, wearing his vis jackets and doing his thumbs up Fred Scuttle impression and treating you with total contempt.

How much more will you put up with before you rise the fuck up and stop these cunts? Wouldn't be ironic if we all had to come home from Spain to fight an anti-facist civil war like many Brits did against Franco? Two years, and 6 months before I can apply for Spanish citizenship and burn the passport I have become ashamed of owning.
 
Yid

Yid

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
They cut the foreign aid budgets for years....

Shameful...
 
Dorset

Dorset

The Voice Of Reason
Founding Member
They cut the foreign aid budgets for years....

Shameful...
Scummy Tory cunts. The foreign aid budget was a fucking percentage of GDP, when the GDP goes down then so does the aid, the lying fucking facist cunts said in their manifesto that they were going to maintain the aid levels, but like everything they say that was another fucking lie.

That evil bitch Patel is making it a criminal offence to rescue assylum seekers at sea, that is against international and maritime law. Protests against the government are going to become criminal activities if they are 'noisy or annoying', Channel 4, a public service broadcasting company that costs taxpayer fuck all is going to be sold off because they dare to criticise the government, the judiciary are being restricted from ruling on anything the government says is political - if this isn't a roadmap to facism then I don't know what the fuck is.
 
NiceOneCyril

NiceOneCyril

Player in Training.
In terms of currency, the USA spends more on foreign aid than any other country. Of course, being the USA, 65% of that foreign aid is designated for "military assistance" rather than developmental aid, meaning it comes right back to Raytheon and Northrop Grumman.

Does anyone know if it's similar in the UK (I suspect it is),or in Germany, which spends the 2nd highest amount on aid?
 
Motspur Hotspur

Motspur Hotspur

Player in Training.
In terms of currency, the USA spends more on foreign aid than any other country. Of course, being the USA, 65% of that foreign aid is designated for "military assistance" rather than developmental aid, meaning it comes right back to Raytheon and Northrop Grumman.

Does anyone know if it's similar in the UK (I suspect it is),or in Germany, which spends the 2nd highest amount on aid?
To be fair they SHOULD be made to chop in the lion's share for aid as they are the ones going around unsettling the countries who decide using the dollar isn't such a great thing. Arab uprising anyone? Remember that? Bunch of wotsits.
 
Yid

Yid

Well-Known Member
Founding Member
I don't think we will have to wait very long before the US or a "coalition" goes off to fight tyranny on foreign shores...

Remember while our economies are recovering from the pandemic a nice little war would set the money machines spinning in the long run... War is good business after all...!!!

The fact we're cutting foreign aid just means every 3rd world shit hole just got considerably shitter... and an even bigger breeding ground for the next batch of western made ideological fighters who will resist against the evil West...
 
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